What I've been thinking on Jones resume

[daj2576]

daj you and I largely agree although I think you are a little more optimistic which is a good thing.

Even if we disagree I still enjoy your posts as they are always interesting and thoughtful.

Thanks my man. :good!:

I try to be objective as much as possible, but if I have to make a choice to be objective and optimistic, or objective and pessimistic, I try to lean optimistic..

 

[DarthVol]

Thank you. I am an engineer's son so I grew up being told to distinguish fact from feeling. I still fall short on occasion, but find that those lessons have helped me succeed professionally and in educational environs for many of my 34 years.

I started owned and ran a land surveying / civil engineering firm for about 7 years before I pivoted and gave in to the dark side. I have since sold the business and am less than 18 months from graduating from...law school.

Grab your pitchforks and torches. lol

As a long-time engineer turned patent attorney, I appreciate your posts and the analysis that you provide. As someone posted, facts are facts. It's the interpretation/application of those facts where folks have a hard time separating from their emotions.

And good luck with the rest of your law school and the transition into your new career. :salute:

 

[sjt18]

I will leave you with this question. Would you rather lose in a blowout fashion to teams with a severe talent advantage (and trip up against one team with less talent), or lose close to teams we should beat (Dooley's forte)? Again, right now we are just one game below talent predictions. So is Auburn. Very likely we win out and go bowling. If not, let's discuss what it means then.
.

Fallacy of limited alternatives. I would rather have a coach whose ability makes the difference so that they win the ones they are supposed to win plus an upset here and there... and play to the level of the talent of the roster every time they take the field. I do NOT like seeing the same coaching and player mistakes repeated one game after another.

QB's have been blistering this D since the season began with both designed runs and scrambles. There's been zero improvement. I can buy that part of that is talent. But part of it is schemes and playcalling. And another part... is replacing guys who aren't playing up to standard like McCullers.

 

[daj2576]

Fallacy of limited alternatives. I would rather have a coach whose ability makes the difference so that they win the ones they are supposed to win plus an upset here and there... and play to the level of the talent of the roster every time they take the field. I do NOT like seeing the same coaching and player mistakes repeated one game after another.

QB's have been blistering this D since the season began with both designed runs and scrambles. There's been zero improvement. I can buy that part of that is talent. But part of it is schemes and playcalling. And another part... is replacing guys who aren't playing up to standard like McCullers.

If it was a fallacy of limited alternatives, why didn't you chose "I'd rather go undefeated and win national championships every year"? Isn't that one of the unlimited alternatives? As I have consistently said in response to your borderline breathless panic that you are chosing to find the negative, and this is further evidence.

I was giving you a choice between two known outcomes. Since you say there has been no improvement, I was allowing you to chose between the last few years, and this year. You insist that there had been no improvement, then shield yourself from having to admit there has been some by avoiding the answer.

Dooley had more talent last year and lost 4 games he should have won. Jones could lose to both Vandy and Kentucky and manage only a 3 game under performance. If you put that in context of losing three major offensive weapons, and installing new systems on both sides of the ball, perhaps a little patience is in order?

If Jones only bests one of the 2 remaining teams on our schedule that is a 100% increase in SEC victories over the past 2 years. If he wins both, that is a 300% increase.

Furthermore, in other posts you continue to cite Auburn as some proof of what first year coaches should do. That is a fallacy you are creating. Let's Talk about talent and Auburn. Look into it and you'll see Auburn is under performing by one game (just like Jones). They should only lose to Bama with that talent. Chizik was just that bad.

It is similar to your argument that Saban showed huge jumps in performance in year one (you conveniently leave off that the previous year Bama was 6-6 during the regular season as well, and that got Shula fired). You even attempt to cite Sumlin as some gauge of success. If memory serves, Sumlin's first year in the SEC, based on talent alone, was an over-performance of 1 game. They beat Bama, who has a very real tendency to drop a game late in a season against a spread-option team. This year, Sumlin is tracking right along talent averages.

I say again, if in 2 weeks we aren't bowl eligible, let's have this discussion about over or under performance along seasonal trends. Until then you are teetering on being "that guy."

Which guy? This one...

 

[VegasVol]

Butch has already out coached Richt and Spurrier in his first year here with average talent....

And we were out coached and underperformed against almost everyone else.

 

[knoxvols11]

And we were out coached and underperformed against almost everyone else.

Yeah!