What needs to happen to host playoff?

#153
#153
Section KK said:
I like this (seeds not ranks) if Oregon, Georgia, and Clemson win:
1) Oregon
2) Georgia
3) Boise State
4) Clemson
5) Notre Dame
6) Texas
7a) Ohio State
7b) Tennessee
9) Penn State
10a) South Carolina
10b) Indiana
12) B12 champ

With the committee making a couple close decisions just to keep conference foes from playing each other in first 2 rounds.
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They had better not adjust because of conferences - rank them based on merit and let them play.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Not really. In the event Oregon loses to Penn State in the Big 10 title game, Penn State will get auto bye, Oregon drops to the 5 seed....

We have no shot at the 5 so it would just be swapped with Penn State and Oregon loser
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We need Oregon to beat Penn St good. Then they probably drop behind us maybe. But we have to remember the big 10 committee calls these shots.
 
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Woodlawn VOL said:
We need Oregon to beat Penn St good. Then they probably drop behind us maybe. But we have to remember the big 10 committee calls these shots.
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Penn State is not dropping past the 6 seed at all for losing to Oregon. I’d argue they wouldn’t drop past the 5th but that’s if the committee thinks Notre Dame has the 5 seed locked up
 
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#157
The whole conference champ thing is bogus. It was done to get conferences to go along with playoff. Now we have inferior teams getting byes and throwing the seeding out the window. To answer the opening post question, the committee would have to be drunk to let us host a game. Manuel has said he knows how to count losses, but he can’t evaluate them. We’ll wind up in Columbus or Bloomington. Strength of schedule is meaningless.
 
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And stop with the committee will not drop the losers - they will! Actually, there are scenarios where they MUST DROP the loser in the ranking.

Scenario 1: Penn State beats Oregon ==> Oregon is NOT staying at # 1
Scenario 2: Georgia beats Texas ==> Texas is NOT staying at # 2.

Positioning of the conference champ in the rankings impacts the seeding so they must adjust for whomever wins those games which implies movement for the team that loses the games. And if both of the above happened, the committee has to place Penn State / Georgia accordingly to whom they think should get the number 1 seed. They also must position Oregon and Texas in terms of where they think those teams belong in respect to each other and other teams. Do they go below Notre Dame? It matters for hosting and who plays whom.

I don't think that the loser of the SEC and B1G will drop out of the playoffs. I'm not sure about the ACC and Mountain West.

- If Georgia loses, they would be replacing Georgia with another 3-loss team. Georgia is easily the best of any of the 3-loss teams - so Georgia would remain in the playoffs. They could move out of a hosting spot.
- If Penn State loses, that is their 2nd loss - they will NOT replace Penn State with a 3-loss team. Penn State may move out of a hosting spot.

Bottom line there will be movement in the rankings post the conference championships. There will be less movement if all the expected teams win and more movement if there are upsets.
 
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TheDirector said:
I said this in another thread. You could argue that the 5 seed is better than the one seed even with a bye depending on who is in the 8/9 game.
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Yes there is a argument here depending on the year. Statistically I think most coaches would prefer the bye for obvious reasons.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Penn State is not dropping past the 6 seed at all for losing to Oregon. I’d argue they wouldn’t drop past the 5th but that’s if the committee thinks Notre Dame has the 5 seed locked up
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I said if they get pounded by Oregon. I wasn’t saying it was a lock either. We will find out when we find out. GBO
 
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JMSqb11 said:
The auto bids were the only way to get the Big 12 and ACC to sign on to expansion. Those conferences are on life support.
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They should have to ranked among the top 15. I can see years in the mountain west and outside the power 4 where we will be letting team in barely ranked in the top 25. Not talking about this year but there is a likelihood it could happen in the mountain west and other conferences outside the power 4. GBO
 
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VolCalls said:
The CFP committee has 13 members and only one of them is from the B1G.
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3-4 have Big 10 ties, it was talked about on Finebaum who had the list. Big 10 has more influence on the board than the SEC no doubt about it. Your right most are from the west. Only 1 is from the sec. But they talked about how 3-4 of them had past ties to Big 10. Bottom line the 2 biggest conferences should have equal representation. And I think the committee needs a group of former coaches in it along with a few former players with great integrity. I would venture most of these committee folks never played or coached college football. GBO
 
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#170
Vols most likely Opponent
OSU falls behind Vols and no more movement= 9-OSU @ 8-Vols
OSU doesnt fall behind Vols and no more movement= 9-Vols @ 8-OSU
Texas whips Dawgs OR Oregon whips Penn St.= 10-Indiana @ 7-Vols
Texas whips Dawgs AND Oregon whips Penn St.= 11-B12 winner @ 6-Vols
 
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Woodlawn VOL said:
3-4 have Big 10 ties, it was talked about on Finebaum who had the list. Big 10 has more influence on the board than the SEC no doubt about it. Your right most are from the west. Only 1 is from the sec. But they talked about how 3-4 of them had past ties to Big 10. Bottom line the 2 biggest conferences should have equal representation. And I think the committee needs a group of former coaches in it along with a few former players with great integrity. I would venture most of these committee folks never played or coached college football. GBO
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Finebaum is an SEC reporter so of course he is going to push a biased narrative. I also have the list and the fact is that four of the committee members have SEC ties. I get that people like to get worked up about conference bias and media narratives but the facts show there is no more favoritism being shown toward or against a certain conference by the committee. It’s largely opinion and conjecture by fans - of all schools - who like to stir the pot by crying foul.
 
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ZoeVol said:
Vols most likely Opponent
OSU falls behind Vols and no more movement= 9-OSU @ 8-Vols
OSU doesnt fall behind Vols and no more movement= 9-Vols @ 8-OSU
Texas whips Dawgs OR Oregon whips Penn St.= 10-Indiana @ 7-Vols
Texas whips Dawgs AND Oregon whips Penn St.= 11-B12 winner @ 6-Vols
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I don’t think Georgia needs to be whipped. They lose by any margin and fall in seed by at least a couple of places.

Also, the reason why I believe there is a chance Penn St falls behind us is because a) OSU should be behind us and b) if Penn St loses to Oregon, then OSU should be ahead of Penn St because they beat them in early November, will have the same number of losses, and has a better resume than Penn. There are several paths for us to get to the 6 or 7 seed. But it’s really contingent on Tuesday night.
 
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VolCalls said:
Finebaum is an SEC reporter so of course he is going to push a biased narrative. I also have the list and the fact is that four of the committee members have SEC ties. I get that people like to get worked up about conference bias and media narratives but the facts show there is no more favoritism being shown toward or against a certain conference by the committee. It’s largely opinion and conjecture by fans - of all schools - who like to stir the pot by crying foul.
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Whatever, if you can’t see the committee’s slant toward the big 10 I can’t make you see it. The top of big 10 has good teams but no doubt the sec is much deeper overall. The schedules overall aren’t comparable. It won’t matter in 2026 if the sec or big 10 don’t like this format it will change. I don’t care if we play on the road and kick their butt the victory will be just that much sweeter.
 
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