What Other Message Boards Are Saying (UGA Post Playoff Rankings Edition)

[sjt18]

Sure I understand that. But you don't think crowd noise can effect snap count and false starts?

I do. Some. But the only comparable environment we have is LSU. If I am not mistaken UT only had one false start penalty in that game. So while it is possible... it isn't necessary.

The comments said that it would hurt Georgia far more than Tennessee. At best it's a wash. Our defense uses hand signals too

I don't think I can predict that. I would say home crowd noise doesn't typically hurt the defense as much as the opposing O. But the caveat is still important.

Let's say you are using hand signals against UK. The crowd ramps up, hand signals and play call changes fly all over the place. Everyone looks around and confirms that the message was received and understood. Ball is snapped and you play ball. Against UT's tempo... the crowd is screaming so no one can hear each other on either side of the ball but while the opponent is recognizing the D and trying to read their keys so they can signal the play to everyone... UT is snapping the ball.

I think many fans and most UT fans before Heupel think/thought that tempo was designed to tire opposing D's out. While it may do that to some extent... the greatest benefit is that it creates communication chaos. Usually you only get to say it/signal it once... and hope that everyone understood. I think it was actually an opposing DL talking after a game that said how difficult it was to even read your own keys in a base D call.

I haven't claimed to know how it will play out in this game. I see some potential opportunities for UT. But UGA is incredibly talented and plays a good defensive system. However I think UGA fans are missing it as bad as previous fans did. Just the way UT executes its O system is a challenge for D's even before you consider plays and playmakers. Simple things like none of the ball carriers will give the ball to any official other than the one who spots the ball. Like getting OLs over the ball and everyone set within 3 or 4 seconds of the ball being spotted. Of getting the sideline signal while moving to the spot and changing formation... with near flawless alignment.

 

[dirtydawgs]

6 tackles this season 4 solo tackles no hurries and no sacks. That is impressive.
Last year he was better with a supporting cast.
A Junior with 3 total Sacks in Career. 0 this year.
Top 5 pick I don't think so.
Where is your brain at, use it? Is that you Jalen?

he's only played in 2 full games this year. And we get pressure just fine . It's getting sacks that's the issue.

 

[Sudden Impact]

I know you haven't been to Sanford when they played a top 10 team, where the crowd really cares, because you guys haven't been ranked that high in a really long time. Tiger Stadium? The game that started at 11 AM? LSU for that game isn't going to be as loud as it will be for this game.

5 ranked team lol. Come on, nobody but Tennessee fans count Pitt, Kentucky, and Florida as ranked teams.. Ya'll are a good team, no need to embellish your accomplishments

So we are better than you without the embellishment. I will take that. Since Florida is out of the equation I guess Oregon is your only big win.

 

[dirtydawgs]

So we are better than you without the embellishment. I will take that. Since Florida is out of the equation I guess Oregon is your only big win.

You have more ranked wins yeah. Better? We'll find out Saturday. You do have a better resume right now

 

[dirtydawgs]

I do. Some. But the only comparable environment we have is LSU. If I am not mistaken UT only had one false start penalty in that game. So while it is possible... it isn't necessary.


I don't think I can predict that. I would say home crowd noise doesn't typically hurt the defense as much as the opposing O. But the caveat is still important.

Let's say you are using hand signals against UK. The crowd ramps up, hand signals and play call changes fly all over the place. Everyone looks around and confirms that the message was received and understood. Ball is snapped and you play ball. Against UT's tempo... the crowd is screaming so no one can hear each other on either side of the ball but while the opponent is recognizing the D and trying to read their keys so they can signal the play to everyone... UT is snapping the ball.

I think many fans and most UT fans before Heupel think/thought that tempo was designed to tire opposing D's out. While it may do that to some extent... the greatest benefit is that it creates communication chaos. Usually you only get to say it/signal it once... and hope that everyone understood. I think it was actually an opposing DL talking after a game that said how difficult it was to even read your own keys in a base D call.

I haven't claimed to know how it will play out in this game. I see some potential opportunities for UT. But UGA is incredibly talented and plays a good defensive system. However I think UGA fans are missing it as bad as previous fans did. Just the way UT executes its O system is a challenge for D's even before you consider plays and playmakers. Simple things like none of the ball carriers will give the ball to any official other than the one who spots the ball. Like getting OLs over the ball and everyone set within 3 or 4 seconds of the ball being spotted. Of getting the sideline signal while moving to the spot and changing formation... with near flawless alignment.

It's definitely going to be a good matchup. I'm excited for Saturday

 

[sjt18]

Future top 5 pick Jalen Carter

An UGA troll pretending to be a Vol fan has been singing this guy's tune a good bit. I have no reason to question his talent. But on the other side you have 3 guys who have won the SEC OL of the week in just 8 games. The guy likely to line up across from Carter much of the time, Darnell Wright, allowed his first sack this season vs UK. He was HOT with Hooker because he held the ball and ate the sack after getting a long time to do something with it. As of a couple weeks ago, Spraggins an OG hadn't allowed a sack. Carvin the other guard will be drafted next spring. In fact at least 4 and probably all 5 of UT's OL starters are playing well enough right now to be in the draft. UT has two guys at LT that have both played extremely well.

I am definitely not dismissing UGA's D front talent. But UT has one of the best OLs in CFB to this point.

 

[praxite33]

what? I don't get this metaphor. How did Georgia make too much noise and wake up Tennessee? Was it because we blew you out when you guys were on that winning streak and you fired Pruitt and then hired Heupel?

You'll get it come Saturday night.

 

[sjt18]

I am hoping that Stetson has a Joe Tereshinski performance like the 2006 match up in Athens.

You're getting old to remember that.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

You're getting old to remember that.

I was 23 back then.

 

[Sudden Impact]

he's only played in 2 full games this year. And we get pressure just fine . It's getting sacks that's the issue.

You answered the question and now you are using the entire defense Line to throw a stat in that does not pertain to the question or present situation. Smith's Absence.

 

[dirtydawgs]

An UGA troll pretending to be a Vol fan has been singing this guy's tune a good bit. I have no reason to question his talent. But on the other side you have 3 guys who have won the SEC OL of the week in just 8 games. The guy likely to line up across from Carter much of the time, Darnell Wright, allowed his first sack this season vs UK. He was HOT with Hooker because he held the ball and ate the sack after getting a long time to do something with it. As of a couple weeks ago, Spraggins an OG hadn't allowed a sack. Carvin the other guard will be drafted next spring. In fact at least 4 and probably all 5 of UT's OL starters are playing well enough right now to be in the draft. UT has two guys at LT that have both played extremely well.

I am definitely not dismissing UGA's D front talent. But UT has one of the best OLs in CFB to this point.

yeah the UGA d-line vs UT o-line matchup is what I'm most curious about. I wonder if they will try to do what Pitt did and blitz heavily or will they just play like they normally do and see how that goes. I have no idea what to expect

 

[dirtydawgs]

You answered the question and now you are using the entire defense Line to throw a stat in that does not pertain to the question or present situation. Nolen's Absence.

What's the question? I answered who our best pass rusher was. You said "WiTh No SaCks?" and I posted that to show that our defense(including Jalen) gets pressure just fine, just not sacks. It's funny you don't think he won't be drafted high. Literally every draft has him towards the top 5. He might not be top 5 exactly but he is going to be around there

 

[Sudden Impact]

What's the question? I answered who our best pass rusher was. You said "WiTh No SaCks?" and I posted that to show that our defense(including Jalen) gets pressure just fine, just not sacks. It's funny you don't think he won't be drafted high. Literally every draft has him towards the top 5.

Time will tell and it sometimes depends on the supporting cast around him. Should be interesting to see. Tennessee OL is solid and they have been battled tested since Pitt. This line unit grew significantly from what we saw at Pitt. It is really dumb to use the Pitt Game as a measuring stick. 7 games ago. Not the same OL. Plus the Offensive Scheme of Tennessee almost baits you into only using 4 DL and lessens the use of the blitz.

 

[Sara Clark]

This game isn't going to come down to "UGA d-line vs UT's o-line". The thing to watch is TN's d vs GA's o.

 

[Sudden Impact]

This game isn't going to come down to "UGA d-line vs UT's o-line". The thing to watch is TN's d vs GA's o.

? I agree to a degree to disagree. LOS will make a difference as it always does in each game.

 

[Sara Clark]

? I agree to a degree to disagree. LOS will make a difference as it always does in each game.

I don't think any team in the country can stop our o-line. The question is, can another team score enough to keep up? If D has a good day, doesn't have to be great, I don't believe any team in the country can beat us.

**Edit** The argument all week is that Georgia's d is so strong, they'll stop us....NO, they might slow us, they will not stop us.

 

[sjt18]

yeah the UGA d-line vs UT o-line matchup is what I'm most curious about. I wonder if they will try to do what Pitt did and blitz heavily or will they just play like they normally do and see how that goes. I have no idea what to expect

I really suspect not. They might but UT improved significantly in picking up blitzes. The Vols have also made somewhat of a habit of going max protect here and there. Hooker for his part is seeing bad alignments and changing plays too.

Lots of people seem to second guess Bama. But there are reasons that they did what they did. I'm sure they didn't expect confusion and blown coverages... but blitzing likely would have magnified that. And then... if you blitz and go man with your DBs' backs to the LOS... and Hooker takes off running you give up a big gain.

I'm honestly really glad to be on this side of that offense.

 

[Sudden Impact]

I don't think any team in the country can stop our o-line. The question is, can another team score enough to keep up? If D has a good day, doesn't have to be great, I don't believe any team in the country can beat us.

**Edit** The argument all week is that Georgia's d is so strong, they'll stop us....NO, they might slow us, they will not stop us.

Which will be our ability upfront to keep S Bennett on his back and hold the run game to a minimum. Once we see the plan for the GA TEs and how we play them Defensively I will be a little more comfortable. It will be a physical game and the trenches will be a battle/War. Those TEs are my main concern.

edit: GA plays Dirty.

 

[DB1995]

“We aren’t Alabama” is a brag I haven’t heard in a long time

 

[sjt18]

This game isn't going to come down to "UGA d-line vs UT's o-line". The thing to watch is TN's d vs GA's o.

I think that's a "both" rather than either/or.

UT needs to protect Hooker but more than that they need to run the ball effectively The run sets up everything else.

UGA runs less but basically have to have a credible run threat as well.

One way it could go that no one sees right now is that both could try to establish the run with neither finding much success until something breaks late in the game.

 

[Sara Clark]

Which will be our ability upfront to keep S Bennett on his back and hold the run game to a minimum. Once we see the plan for the GA TEs and how we play them Defensively I will be a little more comfortable. It will be a physical game and the trenches will be a battle/War. Those TEs are my main concern.

Well, it's popular in other fanbases to talk or point out our d-lines stats. This d-line is NOT the same d-line we had 3 weeks ago. They are being coached up and developing FAST. Regardless, it's going to be a fight...do we win? I have no idea, but I like our chances.

 

[dirtydawgs]

Time will tell and it sometimes depends on the supporting cast around him. Should be interesting to see. Tennessee OL is solid and they have been battled tested since Pitt. This line unit grew significantly from what we saw at Pitt. It is really dumb to use the Pitt Game as a measuring stick. 7 games ago. Not the same OL. Plus the Offensive Scheme of Tennessee almost baits you into only using 4 DL and lessens the use of the blitz.

I mean that's easy to say when you haven't face anyone that blitzed you as much as Pitt did. I do think your OL are better and they are a good unit but yeah we'll see what our gameplan is

 

[dirtydawgs]

I think that's a "both" rather than either/or.

UT needs to protect Hooker but more than that they need to run the ball effectively The run sets up everything else.

UGA runs less but basically have to have a credible run threat as well.

One way it could go that no one sees right now is that both could try to establish the run with neither finding much success until something breaks late in the game.

couldn't agree more with all of this

 

[Sara Clark]

I think that's a "both" rather than either/or.

UT needs to protect Hooker but more than that they need to run the ball effectively The run sets up everything else.

UGA runs less but basically have to have a credible run threat as well.

One way it could go that no one sees right now is that both could try to establish the run with neither finding much success until something breaks late in the game.

I agree with you that there "may" very well be little success in a running game for both teams, initially. Someone is going to adapt and allow the field to open up to both a pass and running game. Let's hope it's us first.

 

[Sara Clark]

Which will be our ability upfront to keep S Bennett on his back and hold the run game to a minimum. Once we see the plan for the GA TEs and how we play them Defensively I will be a little more comfortable. It will be a physical game and the trenches will be a battle/War. Those TEs are my main concern.

edit: GA plays Dirty.

Aren't they known for going at the knees?