What qb should start against UGA next weekend?

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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
You want it to be mid season now.....not the end.

Just stop. Coach Heupel has more of a clue than you and I can assure you this isn't happening.
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I look forward to your much vaunted protests next week when Nico comes in during mop duty so he can avoid any harm.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Dabo did with Lawrence. Saban did with Tua. Kirby did with Fields to a degree. Michigan did with McCarthy. So much for saying there has never been a coach ever to hand it over to their 5 star mid season!
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Those COACHES decided the guys were ready. Our coach didn't.

Hate on Heupel, if you wish, but he has the QB pedigree, not you.

Get it through your head: if Nico was ready and better, he'd play. He's not. He's also not going to get better, in Coach Heupel's educated opinion, by starting the last few games.

If you don't think he knows QB development, we've got a very very very large problem.
 
#159
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
@JMSqb11
So you don't believe Coach Heupel knows what he's talking about? Is that your position here?
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I’m not the one who says he isn’t. I’m simply saying that 2023 season is done as we have nothing important to play for in these final 3 games. We have a chance to get a head start on 2024. And for some reason, you have pivoted from the Nico is too fragile/soft to play to now saying that Heupel knows best. Wish we had you in our secondary with how fast you back pedal.

Heupel probably does roll out Joe vs Georgia Vandy and Bowl Game. But doing so provides no value to this season for us to achieve something of value and definitely provides no value to 2024 for the guys who are going to be starting next year.
 
#160
#160
Just let Joe finish this season out. 8 and 4 and hopefully a Music City Bowl win will not be all we wanted, but still 9 wins in a nice season.
 
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@SayUWantAreVOLution simple question. Our secondary is banged up due to injuries so much younger guys that will be here next year are getting a lot of playing time in the final 3-4 games of this season. For the guys getting playing time that don’t graduate this year, is the playing time they are getting adding value to next year?
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I’m not the one who says he isn’t. I’m simply saying that 2023 season is done as we have nothing important to play for in these final 3 games. We have a chance to get a head start on 2024. And for some reason, you have pivoted from the Nico is too fragile/soft to play to now saying that Heupel knows best. Wish we had you in our secondary with how fast you back pedal.

Heupel probably does roll out Joe vs Georgia Vandy and Bowl Game. But doing so provides no value to this season for us to achieve something of value and definitely provides no value to 2024 for the guys who are going to be starting next year.
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So, you ARE saying Heupel will do something vs GA that "provides no value" for UT...... but you're not questioning whether he knows what he's doing better than you?

No visible logic detected. Nobody wants to do the right thing with our QBs and nobody at TN since Cutcliffe has morev proven experience coaching up QBs than Josh Heupel.

Bitch about the play calling. Bitch about the 4th down decisions. But if there's one thing I trust about Heupel, it's his ability to bring along a QB to the best of their potential.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
@SayUWantAreVOLution simple question. Our secondary is banged up due to injuries so much younger guys that will be here next year are getting a lot of playing time in the final 3-4 games of this season. For the guys getting playing time that don’t graduate this year, is the playing time they are getting adding value to next year?
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It may be. That's what injury does, it forces guys to make it OR NOT. Some of the guys may get burnt and lose confidence and have their growth plateau with lack of confidence. Some of the guys may transition well into the starting lineup.

Injuries are part of it. If Joe were injured, Nico might very well get good experience OR get his confidence shattered.

Again, our coach does this ACTUALLY for a living and has for decades, most of the time SPECIFICALLY developing QBs. Bitch about a lot of things about Heupel but QBs is his specialty and has been for a long time.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Dabo did with Lawrence. Saban did with Tua. Kirby did with Fields to a degree. Michigan did with McCarthy and Cade. So much for saying there has never been a coach ever to hand it over to their 5 star mid season! Hell Dabo did it last year with DJ and Klubnik!
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Tha didnt start till Hurts went down...McCarthy didnt get start at all as a freshman....ill have to look at Dabo...but thos 2 example are on NC contending teams..
 
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KTrain said:
I actually think ppl just talk to hear themselves talk, everyone could take partial blame but we lost this game mostly because the D couldn't tackle a 5'9" guy that probably runs a 4-9 40 or something like that, they were too embarrassed to tell. Really the 40 time IMO is dumb if a back has a quick first step that's main thing initially . That dude #7 will never out run DBs for a long TD but he made our LBs look really slow especially #44.
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Schrader is a good back, no doubt. Kinda like a somewhat more physical Jabari Small, lacks breakaway speed but good first step and cutting ability.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Tha didnt start till Hurts went down...McCarthy didnt get start at all as a freshman....ill have to look at Dabo...but thos 2 example are on NC contending teams..
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Hurts didn’t get hurt and leave the game in the Natty when Saban put Tua in.

Michigan was a playoff team and splitting a lot of meaningful playing time between Cade and JJ. So much that Cade transferred out because JJ was the heir apparent and getting reps.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Considering the season is over because we aren’t playing for anything significant in the final 3 games, it would be great to get guys who will be starters next year a lot of playing time. Especially when there is no downside for losing considering you all have guaranteed a loss vs Georgia.

The same people who are saying Nico is too soft/fragile to start against UGA are going to be the same ones calling for him to play the second half in a lopsided game vs Georgia backups who are, check notes, just as talented as the starters but don’t have the experience. Can’t have it both ways.
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You just don't understand. In 2035 when nico is married with 2 kids and a 240lb dad bod that's when he's going to shine. He'll know the playbook by then AND won't be fragile. Guaranteed natty in 12 more years!
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
This notion that every year is "over" when a team loses the chance to play in an NY6 or playoff is pretty amazing.

It reduces every year to a rebuilding year UNLESS you're within the top 12 teams in the country, essentially. Wow. Just wow.
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If you are not competing for championships, you are just stuck in constant rebuild mode. Welcome to the new world of competitive college football.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Hurts didn’t get hurt and leave the game in the Natty when Saban put Tua in.

Michigan was a playoff team and splitting a lot of meaningful playing time between Cade and JJ. So much that Cade transferred out because JJ was the heir apparent and getting reps.
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Again both were NC contenders...not gap years...why is Obama going with Milroe now instead of thier 5 star
 
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loservol said:
If you are not competing for championships, you are just stuck in constant rebuild mode. Welcome to the new world of competitive college football.
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I'm not certain it's good for recruiting if your coach essentially turns his back on the veteran, senior players for "next year" if the team falls out of the top 10-12.

It also reinforces that D1 football is a pro game of "produce or get out" which won't help when players sue for status as employees. At that point, "college" football is over.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Milton. No way in hell I start Nico versus Georgia.

Just dumb to put your future in jeopardy right now. After Georgia then let him get some snaps.
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This, all this and nothing but this. You got two healthy receivers and some guys, Nico looked a little shaky in the pocket vs UCONN, and what if he gets injured / out for a year? Not worth the risk to still lose the game and still end up with the 8-4 record.
 
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