White Flight: The Great Exodus From The GOP

We seem to disagree. I do not believe a zygote is a baby.
But you implied that after the first trimester it was a baby. Since there doesn't appear to be a uniform, consistent, definite standard for what determines what a baby is, what is the line that its a baby for you? Time, viability, organ function, size?
 
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But you implied that after the first trimester it was a baby. Since there doesn't appear to be a uniform, consistent, definite standard for what determines what a baby is, what is the line that its a baby for you? Time, viability, organ function, size?
I didn't mean to imply that. I will say that as the pregnancy moves further along, the fetus becomes more of a "baby".
I also said that I thought Roe v Wade was one of the greatest decisions ever.
Talk about your compromise......I put it up there with the great compromise that created the Senate and the House.
There is no way to draw a definitive line.
 
3D ultra sounds required before the abortion as it in no way violates R V Wade?
It's just completely unnecessary. Maybe there is room for compromise. Federally funded 3d machines and ultrasounds coupled with federally funded abortions.
 
I didn't mean to imply that. I will say that as the pregnancy moves further along, the fetus becomes more of a "baby".
I also said that I thought Roe v Wade was one of the greatest decisions ever.
Talk about your compromise......I put it up there with the great compromise that created the Senate and the House.
There is no way to draw a definitive line.

I agree such a strong decision by our courts right up there with Plessy vs Ferguson. Women who take advantage of this momentous right bestowed upon them by an infallible group of individuals is what makes the US great. With the exception of rape/incest/or the life of the mother, these women who decide it just isn't convenient at that moment really deserve an award or stimulus payment. And, the politicians or voters who champion said decisions are just as inspiring especially the men! It's even more courageous that many of these same individuals protest animal shelters that euthanize stray cats/dogs!!
 
It's just completely unnecessary. Maybe there is room for compromise. Federally funded 3d machines and ultrasounds coupled with federally funded abortions.
Let's face it, there is federal "funding" supporting abortions today. According to the PP website, and abortion will cost you $0 to $1000.
I had a 6mm skin lesion removed that cost me $600, that required no anesthesia and a total of 20 minutes. PP is getting a lot of revenue from somewhere else subsidizing the abortions.
 
I didn't mean to imply that. I will say that as the pregnancy moves further along, the fetus becomes more of a "baby".
I also said that I thought Roe v Wade was one of the greatest decisions ever.
Talk about your compromise......I put it up there with the great compromise that created the Senate and the House.
There is no way to draw a definitive line.
"protects a pregnant woman's right to choose whether or not to have an abortion. But it also ruled that this right is not absolute, and must be balanced against the government's interests in protecting women's health and protecting prenatal life"

Women could always get abortions. They maybe just have to travel to another state. Why can't the rules of each state reflect the interest of the majority of it's citizens? "Roe" had her baby, and put it up for adoption. There are a million contraceptives, morning after pills, and safe-haven laws in addition to adoption. Abortion isn't the be-all and end-all.
 
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It's just completely unnecessary. Maybe there is room for compromise. Federally funded 3d machines and ultrasounds coupled with federally funded abortions.
In general, we should get more of a say in where our tax money goes. I'm not okay funding abortions. There are non-profits that will help women. I would support federally funded preventative resources though. And education.
 
OrangeTsar: "Read again. I did not say Trump himself supports American values. But he sure as heck supports a lot ofAmericans who HAVE those values. I despise Trump as a person but I also despised everyone running against him. I will at least pick the despicable person who will do me the least harm. And I am sorry, Marxist socialism and identity politics are NOT in my best interest... Let me try a Trump/Democrat analogy. Trump is like a Copperhead. The Democrats are like King Cobras. I despise Copperheads as well as King Cobras. But every 4 years, I have to pick one of the two snakes to bite me. Call me crazy but I will get bit by the Copperhead, because I will probably survive. You can finish the analogy in your own mind now."

I won't call you crazy, but I will call you out for aligning the Democratic Party with Marxist socialism. First allow me to emphasize that there are many things about the Democratic Party which seriously go against me. I am not here to toot their horn. But I am here saying that my take on the two parties differs from yours by viewing today's Republican Party as worse by far. Knock, knock, January 6. Hello?

Government intervention in our economy is an issue that goes back to differences between Jefferson and Hamilton in George Washington's first administration. Hamilton prevailed, and our founding fathers' first Constitutional government set about to promote the American economy by supporting the growth of industry and development of modern financial institutions. That is our history, and it is not Marxism. Government support for economic infrastructure came to be called The American System. We needed highways, railroads, etc., so the government supported them. We needed a modern banking system which functioned better than boom and bust organs of wild cat speculation. So we created it. Our government did what needed doing to get needed jobs done. That is our history, and it is not Marxism. If you want to talk about real Marxists or "former Marxists" in our government, then top of your list should be numerous Neoconservatives in the Republican Party. If you think that the Democratic Party represents Marxism, then you must not know the true meaning of that word. You are hearing it and using it recklessly and falsely.
Here’s your Democratic Party:
Democrats see society as being divided by conflict between the social groups, or classes who make up society.
Do you disagree with this?
 
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It's just completely unnecessary. Maybe there is room for compromise. Federally funded 3d machines and ultrasounds coupled with federally funded abortions.
You’re welcome to donate as much of your money as you choose to the local abortion clinic, but you can go F yourself if you call me to ask me to donate.
 
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Here’s your Democratic Party:
Democrats see society as being divided by conflict between the social groups, or classes who make up society.
Do you disagree with this?

I do not disagree. But you say that as if Republicans do not treat public policy as class warfare, when they certainly do.
 
I do not disagree. But you say that as if Republicans do not treat public policy as class warfare, when they certainly do.
Well I figured you’d agree and here’s why:
Marxists see society as being divided by conflict between the social groups, or classes who make up society. Marx believed that social change is the natural order of societies. In each form of society there are those who control property and those who work for them.

You’re a freaking commie and you don’t even know it..... this is the worst kind of commie of all ..... add this to your research list 👇🏼
http://resources.hwb.wales.gov.uk/VTC/2009-10/sociology/j-griffiths-a2/04 marxist inequality.doc
 

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