White Pride; Negative Connotation

[lawgator1]

This thread is the biggest level, ever. Congrats to OP.

 

[Nerd-Vol]

This thread is the biggest level, ever. Congrats to OP.

What is the level?

 

[OrangeEmpire]

What is the level?

Exactly

 

[ToineMac]

I'd like to preface this by saying I like white people. I really do. Some more than others. A few more than most black folks. I wish there was a happy medium between those of you who like to pretend that choices made to your benefit centuries ago don't still effect us now. And those who like to keep blaming yourselves for every little bit of black plight. Neither of you is making anything better. I honestly have no idea how we can fix all of what ails us racially in this country. More dialouge will help i think. Having a partially black president hasn't helped as much as I hoped. Seems like racists just dug in.
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[KiffinKiller]

they had a hand it in no doubt but is it our fault we were better united and they were not?

is it our fault canada was not able to defeat us?

or mexico?

or spain?

or england?

or germany?

or japan?

is it our fault we are the biggest kid on the block.

with great power comes great decisions and we have made a bunch of bad decisions...but it is not our fault that we were placed in the position to be able to make these decisions.

any of the above would have wiped us out if they had the chance and they failed too.

by canada, you mean the British.

 

[lawgator1]

What is the level?

You are simply curious as to what really is the sentiment behind the phrase "white pride"?

Level.

 

[NEO]

by canada, you mean the British.

point is we are good at killing people.

we (america) went and found germans to invent the bomb and so forth.

what we are good at is finding people who can get the job done for us.

slavery never went away by the way it just evolved.

it went from people in chains to people in 3rd world nations with no hope, no way out, and at the mercy of a business to produce goods at a cheap price.

anyone who buys a product made in vietnam, china, etc has alot of balls to ***** about slavery when your purchase is creating a modern day system of slavery.

 

[KiffinKiller]

point is we are good at killing people.

we (america) went and found germans to invent the bomb and so forth.

what we are good at is finding people who can get the job done for us.

slavery never went away by the way it just evolved.

it went from people in chains to people in 3rd world nations with no hope, no way out, and at the mercy of a business to produce goods at a cheap price.

anyone who buys a product made in vietnam, china, etc has alot of balls to ***** about slavery when your purchase is creating a modern day system of slavery.

I wouldnt say someone buying something makes them creators of slavery. But I see the point you're trying to make.

If you buy it, don't ***** about it?

 

[VOLatile]

point is we are good at killing people.

we (america) went and found germans to invent the bomb and so forth.

what we are good at is finding people who can get the job done for us.

slavery never went away by the way it just evolved.

it went from people in chains to people in 3rd world nations with no hope, no way out, and at the mercy of a business to produce goods at a cheap price.

anyone who buys a product made in vietnam, china, etc has alot of balls to ***** about slavery when your purchase is creating a modern day system of slavery.

You want to outsource your telemarketers to India or wherever because labor is cheaper, correct?

 

[RespectTradition]

My mother grew up in New Prospect, TN(shout out, baby!). This tiny town is between Lawrenceburg and Pulaski.

She did not even SEE a black person until her family went on a trip to Florence, AL when she was 11 yrs old.

This confuses me greatly. I also grew up between Pulaski and Lawrenceburg, about 8 miles north of highway 64. We saw black people all the time in L'burg and even more in Pulaski. My grandmother used to tell me about playing in the creek with the little black kids that lived two farms over, so it ain't a new phenomenon.

 

[trevols81]

This confuses me greatly. I also grew up between Pulaski and Lawrenceburg, about 8 miles north of highway 64. We saw black people all the time in L'burg and even more in Pulaski. My grandmother used to tell me about playing in the creek with the little black kids that lived two farms over, so it ain't a new phenomenon.

Then you know where New Prospect is? Not Prospect. Which is relatively close to the same area.

My mom was born in 1950. Her graduating HS class had 2 black people in it.

Her family very rarely went to Pulaski and at the time Lawrenceburg had virtually no black people living there.

 

[RespectTradition]

Then you know where New Prospect is? Not Prospect. Which is relatively close to the same area.

My mom was born in 1950. Her graduating HS class had 2 black people in it.

Her family very rarely went to Pulaski and at the time Lawrenceburg had virtually no black people living there.

I know the area well. Go about 7 or 8 miles past NP and turn left on State Route 166 and head north. I grew up yonder way. I live in Columbia now. Did you grow up anywhere near there?

 

[trevols81]

I know the area well. Go about 7 or 8 miles past NP and turn left on State Route 166 and head north. I grew up yonder way. I live in Columbia now. Did you grow up anywhere near there?

No. I lived in Wilson Co., TN until I was 11 and then the family moved to Huntsville. We visited my grandparents often, though.

My mother and practically her entire family lived in New Prospect. My great grandfather owned a sweet potato farm and had 5 daughters. Family Christmas and any get togethers were insane. Big family.

If you know where New Prospect elementary school is(Miller Lane) my mother grew up half a mile up that road.

 

[NEO]

You want to outsource your telemarketers to India or wherever because labor is cheaper, correct?

yes


but...and I'm not rationalizing...the wages there are not 3rd world nearly as much as many sweat shops. Most make about 3 dollars per hour which for their cost of living places them in a very, very good spot.

 

[kcvols1]

japanes invaded china and raped and murdered but we just dropped a bigger bomb on them and knocked them back a few steps.

germans killed jews but we killed more germans

and it goes on and on.

america was just very good at kickjing ass and taking names for hundreds of years and still is...its really what we do best and it is the reason we are where we are.

all races have tried to wipe someone out at some point, the white race just did it better.

....for good or bad.

So WWII was all about the US and its Allies proving that might makes right? I'm relatively certain that this could be somewhat accurately defined as Fascism.

Yeah, we possess the greatest military that has ever existed; but that isn't the point in itself. America at its strongest was an America more loved for its humanity than feared for its military prowess. See generally the Marshall Plan; Berlin Airlift. See also the Eisenhower Administration.

I have to mention this, so bear with me.

Robert Oppenheimer is generally credited with being the brains behind the Manhattan Project. He was born in New York and taught at UC Berkeley.

The Germans you are thinking of weren't captured until after the war. Lots of German scientists surrendered to the Allies (US, UK, and yes, even France) rather than the Soviets. The most notable of these was Werner von Braun; the father of NASA in terms of technology. Thoroughly a Rocket Scientist, and not a Theoretical Physicist.




Touching on the original point, I've generally been taught that "White Pride" is affiliated with skinheads encumbered with more low self esteem than good sense, effite/bourgeois German officers out of touch with their own army, that creepy fella with the leather fetish from Raiders of the Lost Ark, and other assorted spoonfed nitwits of history.

On the other hand, as a son of East Tennessee, I have always been taught to cherish my heritage through reinactments at King's Mountain, Chalmette, & Chickamauga.

Furthermore, folks celebrate the Scots' side of the family over at Grandfather Mountain during the Highland Games, and the Irish side at every bar in the country here in a couple of weeks.

I think sometimes we are painted, or paint ourselves, as a nation of patchwork, when really it is more accurate to say we are interwoven.

I, for one, don't feel diminished in the least by my lack of "White Pride" or the ability to label my pedigree as such. 'Sides, I find that brush too broad to cover the English, Irish, Scotch, Welsh, Scandanavian, German, Austrian, Swiss, Hungarian, Polish, Russian, etc., etc. all together.

 

[volinbham]

anyone ever figure out what "level" means in the context of this thread?

 

[OrangeEmpire]

anyone ever figure out what "level" means in the context of this thread?

Reverse racism

 

[lawgator1]

anyone ever figure out what "level" means in the context of this thread?

A "level" in forum-speak is a fake initial post, often clothed in what seems like serious introspection. More or less joking. Dead pan humor.

You get the idea.

 

[lawgator1]

Urban Dictionary: level

 

[Nerd-Vol]

A "level" in forum-speak is a fake initial post, often clothed in what seems like serious introspection. More or less joking. Dead pan humor.

You get the idea.

Actually wasn't a joke. I am legitimately curious.

I have been really impressed with the discussion in this thread.

 

[trevols81]

Actually wasn't a joke. I am legitimately curious.

I have been really impressed with the discussion in this thread.

God-forbid. I guess legitimate discussion is outlawed.

 

[ptclaus98]

Hi all. I have a question I wanted to pose to you the loyal forum folks.

As a Black American, I take a great sense of pride in who I am and my race. I am proud of what my people have accomplished in a relatively short amount of time. Admitting this would not bat an eye from most people. In fact we track and chart the achievements of minorities in all fields of human accomplishment.

I ask you all why is it different for White Americans? Why does the term "White Pride" have such a negative connotation? Is it deserved? Does it bother you as a White American?

This is me being honestly curious, because I find it weird how when someone says "White Pride," images of cross burnings and swastikas come to mind.

Wait, you're black? We must be separated at birth...

 

[Nerd-Vol]

Wait, you're black? We must be separated at birth...

You black also!? Always great to meet other black Americans with an interest in motorsports. Bristol just did an article about Darrel Wallace jr. Kid is only 17 and is looking to go places.

Also, I feel old as hell.