White supremacist mows down mosque in NZ

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Carl Pickens said:
The SPLC is a joke.
Most of us on this board are adult white males.... of various ages ..... living in different parts of the country. I personally do not know one single white supremacist.... I don't know of any KKK groups in middle Tennessee.... or any other similar hate groups.
I'd like for as many of the posters as possible here comment on this. Do ANY of you know a white supremacist or of a local white supremacist group?
My opinion isn't that it's Trump's fault ..... I think it's the media's fault
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At an event for my business 20 years ago, i met a couple of toothless idiots. You know the kind of people who have no sense of personal space and talk waaay too close to you and talk too loud for the distance? Anywho, they dropped their white stupidity about blacks and jews shortly after engaging with my team.
The only white supremacists I've ever met in real life.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Last I checked, I'm not an alt-right Trump fan boi. I'd say enjoy your little moment, but your leader is a vile piece of **** that couldn't identify his next shot on the green that he hides at.
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so you aren’t an American ? I see where you said “ your leader “ I just assumed you were an American
 
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zeppelin128 said:
They are terrorists, and should be treated as such.
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Interesting label. Do you think they cause terror or terrorize other people?
I think they are horrible. Do more damage than good to win souls for Christ. But i don't think anyone fears them.
 
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McDad said:
Interesting label. Do you think they cause terror or terrorize other people?
I think they are horrible. Do more damage than good to win souls for Christ. But i don't think anyone fears them.
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Give them an ounce of power and watch them beat somebody to death for their cause. They are dispucable trash.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
It would help if “groups “ of people would condemn others from their “group” for ridiculous behavior.

Christians or Baptist share a name with one of the worst groups I can remember. Westbroro Baptist Church. (Who gives a **** how it’s actually spelled). Those guys are a special bread of scum. Anythime they show up there should be others there from different Baptist churches condemning their words and actions. People fear “all” Muslims because they don’t speak out publicly against the extreme beliefs. It could be that the moderate Muslim is also afraid of the extremists but that’s a different conversation
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No, it doesn’t help. It’s just fodder for whoever already disagrees with that group. “See even your own people think you’re crazy!” It’s a total cable news mentality. It’s why MSNBC used to being on Charlie Sykes. He’s a conservative who criticizes trump. It’s like the holy grail for liberal cable news. There’s an unspoken “see, even they know he’s crazy.”

What would help is people engaging in a little introspection and holding ourselves accountable instead of just going on the offensive and calling everybody who challenges us a delusional hypocrite.

As it is, nobody wants to hear anything that doesn’t confirm what they already believe. Nobody wants to try to be better. Until that changes you/we can call out stupidity wherever we see it but people aren’t going to quit being stupid, they just boot you out of the group. Which is why I get called a liberal about every other day here.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
This particular situation is the outcome of a larger problem that has been documented in research. White nationalism and hate groups in general are on the increase. There will be much more of these types of attacks over the next few years.

Hate groups also include black nationalists, which have seen an increase in the last few years, as well as fundamentalist Muslims, Jews, and Christians. Just thought I'd mention that before I get labeled as a white hating commie.
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All true, which is precisely why I claim that people who are easily manipulated (propagandized) into hating other people are a big part of the problem and share the same basic characteristics regardless of race, religion, or nationality...gullible and non-thinking.
 
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hog88 said:
No they don’t.

They are a loud minuscule minority.
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I agree with this. WBC has no political power. No known instances of bombing, killing, or instigating fights.
I don't know anyone willing to admit they agree with their message or their efforts. I don't know anyone who fears them.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
So wouldn't you think that might have something to do with the homicide rate discrepancy?
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The assertion was made that Islam is an inherently violent, murdering religion. I pointed out that there are Islamic countries that are no more violent than America.
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Serious question. Do they count honor killings as part of the homicide rate?
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Is it an intentional homicide.
 
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McDad said:
I agree with this. WBC has no political power. No known instances of bombing, killing, or instigating fights.
I don't know anyone willing to admit they agree with their message or their efforts. I don't know anyone who fears them.
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Same here.
 
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