White supremacist mows down mosque in NZ

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luthervol said:
I am promoting hatred toward Trumpism. I've always recognized the apparent dichotomy of saying I hate hate, or I hate haters, but if you dig beneath the surface, you'll find a solid foundation.
I don't want to see more hatred toward Trumpers, just fewer Trumpers; not more hatred but less.
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Wait you hate them but don’t want to see hatred towards them? What kind of weird double speak is this?
 
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Vol8188 said:
Wait you hate them but don’t want to see hatred towards them? What kind of weird double speak is this?
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In luther's way he means thinking hatred but not demonstrating outward physical hatred. Like that'll work because he has such self control.

Geez, just typing that makes me hate it. Wait, isn't typing it a physical manifestation?
 
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Vol8188 said:
I’m not convinced it’s a small subset of the Muslim community. Sam Harris does a great job of highlighting some of the attitudes from Muslims in the US and Europe, and the massive amounts of extreme views they hold.

Extremism within Christianity is a fraction of what it is within Islam.

So the question is why? I believe it’s the ideology. You disagree. So what is it that creates this exponential difference between the two?
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You’re misconstruing what I’m saying.

I’m not making a value judgment on Islam vs. Christianity. I’m saying you need to determine the worth of individuals, not groups.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
You’re misconstruing what I’m saying.

I’m not making a value judgment on Islam vs. Christianity. I’m saying you need to determine the worth of individuals, not groups.
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And what I’m saying is there’s a massive statistical difference in the views and actions of one of those groups. I attribute that to their ideology. I’ve now stated that 3 different ways.

So if the difference is not their ideology, what is it?
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
No, you saying you know more than scholars because you've "read" a book is real arrogance
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Yeah, you make this too easy counselor.

I read the book in English. Its blunt and steaight forward, not flowery prose and analogy...if you need other people to tell you how to interpret a book written on about a 5th grade level, in English...thats a YOU problem. I dont need a muslim cleric, or any other muslim that has been commanded to lie and deceive me, to tell me how to interpret a book written in my native first language. Unbelievable.

Keep letting muslims tell you how to interpret their book, and how to form your opinions. I will form my own, and laugh at you...as i should. Just because youre too lazy to read the damn book...which is all i ever asked anyone to do, not to take my word for it...doesnt make you anything but ignorant of the subject matter, and in no place to judge my opinion. Thats logic 101
 
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luthervol said:
I am promoting hatred toward Trumpism. I've always recognized the apparent dichotomy of saying I hate hate, or I hate haters, but if you dig beneath the surface, you'll find a solid foundation.
I don't want to see more hatred toward Trumpers, just fewer Trumpers; not more hatred but less.
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Do you think you are propagating that end?
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Yeah, you make this too easy counselor.

I read the book in English. Its blunt and steaight forward, not flowery prose and analogy...if you need other people to tell you how to interpret a book written on about a 5th grade level, in English...thats a YOU problem. I dont need a muslim cleric, or any other muslim that has been commanded to lie and deceive me, to tell me how to interpret a book written in my native first language. Unbelievable.

Keep letting muslims tell you how to interpret their book, and how to form your opinions. I will form my own, and laugh at you...as i should. Just because youre too lazy to read the damn book...which is all i ever asked anyone to do, not to take my word for it...doesnt make you anything but ignorant of the subject matter, and in no place to judge my opinion. Thats logic 101
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The Quran was originally written in English? Your arrogance is still odd.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Wait you hate them but don’t want to see hatred towards them? What kind of weird double speak is this?
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I hate Trumpism. I hate the purveyors of hate, not the people who are susceptible to those purveyors (at least initially).
 
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