TartanTurff
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Oh I know good and well about that counter argument… a tale as old as timeThe only argument they can throw it is "who We GuNna HiRe?!" And it is a valid point. I don't know who we could bring in that would do better, but that doesn't mean we have to ignore his shortcomings.
People need to stop acting like he is a championship level coach. He will get you a couple of conference titals in 15 years, but thats the best it will get.
Let's be thoughtful for one second.
1) Kentucky came into this game with everything to lose. They played the best game of the year so far. It's basketball. Even I get lucky playing B-Ball at the Y sometimes.
2) Tennessee was way off this game. Our worst besides Colorado. This won't be normal going forward. I bet we win at Rupp and if we meet in the SEC tourney we will win there as well. We have been doing this with Kentucky over the last several years. 8 of the last 13 and 2 of 3 last year.
3) Layups.
4) This will be a good motivator moving forward. Keep chucking forward and let the season play out. Bama is on the horizon. Correct mistakes.
5) Football. We ripped them a new one on the football field. And that means more to them than this. Promise.
The only argument they can throw it is "who We GuNna HiRe?!" And it is a valid point. I don't know who we could bring in that would do better, but that doesn't mean we have to ignore his shortcomings.
People need to stop acting like he is a championship level coach. He will get you a couple of conference titals in 15 years, but thats the best it will get.
And I will take that. I have seen some really bad Tennessee teams.The only argument they can throw it is "who We GuNna HiRe?!" And it is a valid point. I don't know who we could bring in that would do better, but that doesn't mean we have to ignore his shortcomings.
People need to stop acting like he is a championship level coach. He will get you a couple of conference titals in 15 years, but thats the best it will get.
^^^ This! ^^^Let's be thoughtful for one second.
1) Kentucky came into this game with everything to lose. They played the best game of the year so far. It's basketball. Even I get lucky playing B-Ball at the Y sometimes.
2) Tennessee was way off this game. Our worst besides Colorado. This won't be normal going forward. I bet we win at Rupp and if we meet in the SEC tourney we will win there as well. We have been doing this with Kentucky over the last several years. 8 of the last 13 and 2 of 3 last year.
3) Layups.
4) This will be a good motivator moving forward. Keep chucking forward and let the season play out. Bama is on the horizon. Correct mistakes.
5) Football. We ripped them a new one on the football field. And that means more to them than this. Promise.
Sorry, but this isn’t a ceiling of the program issue. This is who Barnes is, we should have all know that when he was hired here, there were plenty of data points to look at. Some are OK with it and some Aren’t.Tennessee historically has never had much success in the NCAA Tournament.
If Barnes can’t get it done, then I’m not sure what other options out there are better.
Barnes has brought stability to this program which we desperately needed at the time.
The program has, quite literally, never been to the Final Four and has only been to one Elite Eight. Barnes own career alone tops these numbers. Barnes has more tournament pedigree than anyone ever hired in the history of the Tennessee basketball program. Maybe you need to reevaluate what your expectations are from the hoops team if you think we should be poaching coaches from better programs that have a history of consistently making the elite 8 and final 4.Sorry, but this isn’t a ceiling of the program issue. This is who Barnes is, we should have all know that when he was hired here, there were plenty of data points to look at. Some are OK with it and some Aren’t.
Sorry, but this isn’t a ceiling of the program issue. This is who Barnes is, we should have all know that when he was hired here, there were plenty of data points to look at. Some are OK with it and some Aren’t.
This was definitely a big loss and fans have every right to be upset. Season is by no means over, but even if you take away the obvious “Chris Lofton Day” facts, you have now probably eliminated yourself from 1-seed consideration. You know have two ugly losses on your resume from Colorado and Kentucky. And, with how Alabama is playing, you just made it a massive uphill climb to win the conference. All around an awful result with two tough road games coming up.
I mean the trend is to usually find an up and comer who has had recent tourney success. It’s been 20 years since Barnes went to final 4. The March results will remain predictable, the hate it cause he’s a good ambassador and good man who cares for his kids, but if it “all about March” well then …If a change is needed and whenever that time comes, it needs to be someone who’s had success in the NCAA Tournament.
Don’t think a young up & comer would be the answer.
This was definitely a big loss and fans have every right to be upset. Season is by no means over, but even if you take away the obvious “Chris Lofton Day” facts, you have now probably eliminated yourself from 1-seed consideration. You know have two ugly losses on your resume from Colorado and Kentucky. And, with how Alabama is playing, you just made it a massive uphill climb to win the conference. All around an awful result with two tough road games coming up.
Maybe the program should aspire to more than the first weekend in the tourney? What’s the point if we all say ‘oh well it’s the way it always has been’. The AD doesn’t lack for resources or fan supportThe program has, quite literally, never been to the Final Four and has only been to one Elite Eight. Barnes own career alone tops these numbers. Barnes has more tournament pedigree than anyone ever hired in the history of the Tennessee basketball program. Maybe you need to reevaluate what your expectations are from the hoops team if you think we should be poaching coaches from better programs that have a history of consistently making the elite 8 and final 4.
The SEC has gotten tougher with Arkansas and Bama making good hires. Missouri isn’t too far off either.
It’s just not going to be an easy road for any team in the SEC for that matter.
The SEC has gotten tougher with Arkansas and Bama making good hires. Missouri isn’t too far off either.
It’s just not going to be an easy road for any team in the SEC for that matter.
This was literally like the 2nd or 3rd game I've even cared to watch all year. No, it won't make me want to watch anymore. This team sucks and we got lucky. Calipari is over the hill. Not even happy about the win today cause it'll just give Calipari something to brag about moving forward when he deserves all the criticism deserved for the last few years.
The program has, quite literally, never been to the Final Four and has only been to one Elite Eight. Barnes own career alone tops these numbers. Barnes has more tournament pedigree than anyone ever hired in the history of the Tennessee basketball program. Maybe you need to reevaluate what your expectations are from the hoops team if you think we should be poaching coaches from better programs that have a history of consistently making the elite 8 and final 4.
The program has, quite literally, never been to the Final Four and has only been to one Elite Eight. Barnes own career alone tops these numbers. Barnes has more tournament pedigree than anyone ever hired in the history of the Tennessee basketball program. Maybe you need to reevaluate what your expectations are from the hoops team if you think we should be poaching coaches from better programs that have a history of consistently making the elite 8 and final 4.
Bamer boat raced this bad UK team. Today was a very bad day for sure. Absolutely sucky on offense and, yes, the refs called every single ticky tack foul. UK got home cooking on the road.......