Who controls the House GOP?

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lawgator1

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Seriously, this is getting ridiculous.

Boehner seems to have lost any semblance of control of the House majority.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Seriously, this is getting ridiculous.

Boehner seems to have lost any semblance of control of the House majority.
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why the hell do you care? Your panties would be in a bunch if the GOP were acting in a monolithic fashion much like the democrats were doing in early 2009.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Seriously, this is getting ridiculous.

Boehner seems to have lost any semblance of control of the House majority.
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gator, your boys had the majority in the house and in the senate back in october and they did not make a budget.

they could have spent as much as they wanted because hussein would have rubber stamped any spending, but they didn't.

there is no excuse, don't blame Boehner, blame your boy pelosi.

boehner and kyle are doing what they promised, like it or not, make a budget and cut spending so we can keep from going broke.
 
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LG, your guys share in this. They could have rammed through whatever budget they wanted 6 mos ago but ran like scalded dogs in a desperation move to avert electoral disaster. They weren't thinking past the next election.

...and it's going to get worse with all those Democratic senate seats up for grabs in 2012.
 
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GAVol said:
LG, your guys share in this. They could have rammed through whatever budget they wanted 6 mos ago but ran like scalded dogs in a desperation move to avert electoral disaster. They weren't thinking past the next election.

...and it's going to get worse with all those Democratic senate seats up for grabs in 2012.
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They are still running - they've offered no counter budget proposal. They are simply being the party of "NO" in an attempt to put this on Rs.

Queen Nancy has already proclaimed that old people will starve if they compromise. That's leadership!
 
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1) Boehner says they want $32 billion in cuts.

2) The Dems meet that.

3) The Dems then find another $1 billion in cuts, giving the GOP more than what it asked for.

4) Then Boehner says, no, the number is now $60 billion. Then he comes back and says no, its $70 billion.

5) Now the GOP is adding family values riders to it, on policy issues.


Anyone can see that Boehner does not have the authority to bargain. Whatever he asks for turns out later not to be sufficient. Its either that or the whole thing is a ruse to shut down the government, that is the plan all along, and this is all just trickeration to cause that to occur.

At least some of the new GOP House members' comments would seem to support that theory.
 
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volinbham said:
No way the Reps want to shut down the government.
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The Reps. don't but the TP seems hell bent on it. The tan man was evidently satisfied with putting off real debate and fight until 2012 but the freshmen forced his hand. The short term benefits will cost the GOP longterm. Many TP voters will be effected now and will change their views. Not completely anti-TP but they've forced an issue too soon that could have worked to their advantage. You reap what you you sow.
 
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CSVol said:
The Reps. don't but the TP seems hell bent on it. The tan man was evidently satisfied with putting off real debate and fight until 2012 but the freshmen forced his hand. The short term benefits will cost the GOP longterm. Many TP voters will be effected now and will change their views. Not completely anti-TP but they've forced an issue too soon that could have worked to their advantage. You reap what you you sow.
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Actually we don't.

But we are willing to shut it down if we don't get the cuts.

I'm sorry for everyone who doesn't get this but we are out of money. 60 billion is a drop in the bucket.

I can't even wait until the tackle Ryan's proposal.
 
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GAVol said:
LG, your guys share in this. They could have rammed through whatever budget they wanted 6 mos ago but ran like scalded dogs in a desperation move to avert electoral disaster. They weren't thinking past the next election.

...and it's going to get worse with all those Democratic senate seats up for grabs in 2012.
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GSM, 800 lb. gorilla, outside the back door, real world stuff there.
 
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Watching the news -- the WHOLE sticking point is about abortion language and Planned Parenthood !!! What a fraud the GOP is ! Sure enough, the alleged fiscal conservatives get in there, dick around about 1/2 of 1 percent of the budget, and hang everything up on social agenda. Ridiculous.
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NEOCON said:
Actually we don't.

But we are willing to shut it down if we don't get the cuts.

I'm sorry for everyone who doesn't get this but we are out of money. 60 billion is a drop in the bucket.

I can't even wait until the tackle Ryan's proposal.
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GAVol said:
I don't think it's just the TP. There are a lot of fed up people.
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My point is that reasonable Repubs. recognized this wasn't the time for this particular fight. They had intended, intelligently, to go hard on the 2012 budget. The freshmen TP's had made promises they felt they had to live up to immediately. Don't get me wrong, I understand there will have to be painful cuts across the board and all will have to sacrifice in some form or other. I am simply saying know when to pick your battles and the TP guys whiffed (or seem to be) on this one.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Watching the news -- the WHOLE sticking point is about abortion language and Planned Parenthood !!! What a fraud the GOP is ! Sure enough, the alleged fiscal conservatives get in there, dick around about 1/2 of 1 percent of the budget, and hang everything up on social agenda. Ridiculous.
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It has to start somewhere. The dems are bankrupting us. We have to start cutting and this is just the first step.

When you go on a diet, you cut the thing least needed first. Then once the body gets use to it you cut some more and finally you cut things you use to need to get through the day. Finally, your body adjust and you are now living healthy on about 30% of the intake you use to be.

We are going on a diet. Planned parenhood is the double chocolate cake.
 
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CSVol said:
My point is that reasonable Repubs. recognized this wasn't the time for this particular fight. They had intended, intelligently, to go hard on the 2012 budget. The freshmen TP's had made promises they felt they had to live up to immediately. Don't get me wrong, I understand there will have to be painful cuts across the board and all will have to sacrifice in some form or other. I am simply saying know when to pick your battles and the TP guys whiffed (or seem to be) on this one.
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I see your point but now is the time to make a stand. You have to do it now or it will never get done.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Watching the news -- the WHOLE sticking point is about abortion language and Planned Parenthood !!! What a fraud the GOP is ! Sure enough, the alleged fiscal conservatives get in there, dick around about 1/2 of 1 percent of the budget, and hang everything up on social agenda. Ridiculous.
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Yet you fail comment on GA's point.
 
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It happened in, what, 92 with the Newt revolution? The GOP gets a bunch of seats by making everyone super nervous, claiming they have gotten past their rigid Christian fundamentalist 1950 vision of America and are all about better management of government.

The second they get in there, its about the same tired social policy agenda. And they overreach, like they are doing here, and they get smacked in the next two elections by an American public that is more focused on the economy, stupid, than they have ever been.

People struggling to pay their car insurance, much less save for college for their kids, love the campaign rhetoric about creating jobs, reducing debt, and lowering taxes on them. But when the GOP inevitably resorts to frothing-at-the-mouth Bible thumping instead of focusing on realistic fiscal policy, it is invariably their own party mainstream that turns against them next time out.

History. The GOP just never learns.
 
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