Who is rooting for Alabama tonight?

Are you pulling Alabama to win the NC game?

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#51
#51
golfballs said:
How about Tennessee hire a coach that's worth a **** and able to keep the top talent in the state. Your kind of thinking is the equivalent of wanting to move conferences because the SEC is too hard.
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Dammit, this.
 
#52
#52
I'm rooting for Notre Dame to get their tails whipped.

If that means Alabama has to win, so be it.

I hate them equally.
 
#53
#53
golfballs said:
How about Tennessee hire a coach that's worth a **** and able to keep the top talent in the state. Your kind of thinking is the equivalent of wanting to move conferences because the SEC is too hard.
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In a perfect world that would be the correct answer. Unfortunately, Tennessee is incapable of hiring a coach worth a ****. (surprisingly, according to some, what I just said makes me less of a VFL than the people who are openly rooting for Alabama tonight :loco:). So, for now, we need all the help we can get. Nick Saban parading another trophy around does not help us at all. Instead of stopping the bleeding it is opening another wound. Besides, do you want to see even more Crimson Tide shirts around Knoxville (I certainly don't)?
 
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#54
#54
rich4pres said:
OK. Explain to me how Bama winning another national championship helps us. I really would like to understand how I don't get it.
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Saban will get who he wants until Bama suffers some catastrophic collapse. Which isn't happening under him. Losing to ND would cement the golden turds as undisputed no.1. Recruits know that their only real competition in the north will be tOSU and Michigan. Out west USC and to a lesser extent Oregon and Stanford. If you're a top tier recruit, do you go to a powerhouse that has to compete against 4-6 other schools for top talent or one that just lost the NCG and has to compete against 8-10 and also has to run a gauntlet of conference play every year to make the NCG. ND's sched next year is tough, but it's about as tailor made for a NC in 2014 as it's going to get. A program like ND will be hard to stop once it gets momentum. A loss by Bama to one of it's west rivals in conference puts us in a good situation to control where we go. All we have to do is take care of our business. With ND's smart "tough" scheduling, a loss isn't nearly as disastrous . Imagine trying to unseat a ND team that only lost to a USC or Michigan loaded with talent vs a Bama that lost to say Auburn or LSU and didn't even make it's own conference title game. I'm thinking of the future. Not just trying to crawl out of this sewer drain we're in.
 
#55
#55
supersmo18 said:
This year, I threw all SEC loyalty out the window for Florida and Alabama. I just can't take it any more.


<----- Disclaimer: This avatar is temporary and will be discarded by 0:00 of the 4th quarter tonight.


:finger3: off, Bammer.
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I never got the SEC loyalty thing to begin with.

I WAS pulling hard for ND, However since their trashy "Catholics vs Cousins" shirt I have decided to just not give a crap who wins. That is an insult to the whole South. If we were playing them they would have the same trashy shirt.
 
#56
#56
ETNRIDER said:
I am rooting for a large meteorite to hit on the 50 yard line during the coin toss! :hi:

I hate them both :)

VFL:rock:
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This....yes...please please please!!! Followed by an extra large tidal wave! :thumbsup:
 
#58
#58
Wezcoast said:
Saban will get who he wants until Bama suffers some catastrophic collapse. Which isn't happening under him. Losing to ND would cement the golden turds as undisputed no.1. Recruits know that their only real competition in the north will be tOSU and Michigan. Out west USC and to a lesser extent Oregon and Stanford. If you're a top tier recruit, do you go to a powerhouse that has to compete against 4-6 other schools for top talent or one that just lost the NCG and has to compete against 8-10 and also has to run a gauntlet of conference play every year to make the NCG. ND's sched next year is tough, but it's about as tailor made for a NC in 2014 as it's going to get. A program like ND will be hard to stop once it gets momentum. A loss by Bama to one of it's west rivals in conference puts us in a good situation to control where we go. All we have to do is take care of our business. With ND's smart "tough" scheduling, a loss isn't nearly as disastrous . Imagine trying to unseat a ND team that only lost to a USC or Michigan loaded with talent vs a Bama that lost to say Auburn or LSU and didn't even make it's own conference title game. I'm thinking of the future. Not just trying to crawl out of this sewer drain we're in.
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Yeah, but while Notre Dame being a dominant team affects everybody, Alabama being a dominant team just affects the rest of the SEC (particularly Auburn and Tennessee). Since Notre Dame is a national brand teams like Ohio State, Michigan, USC, Oregon, etc. are not bothered one bit if Alabama is good but they are if it's Notre Dame. At the same token, while it may hurt us if Notre Dame is good, it will not hurt us more than it will anybody else. Alabama being good directly affects us.
 
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Wezcoast said:
Saban will get who he wants until Bama suffers some catastrophic collapse. Which isn't happening under him. Losing to ND would cement the golden turds as undisputed no.1. Recruits know that their only real competition in the north will be tOSU and Michigan. Out west USC and to a lesser extent Oregon and Stanford. If you're a top tier recruit, do you go to a powerhouse that has to compete against 4-6 other schools for top talent or one that just lost the NCG and has to compete against 8-10 and also has to run a gauntlet of conference play every year to make the NCG. ND's sched next year is tough, but it's about as tailor made for a NC in 2014 as it's going to get. A program like ND will be hard to stop once it gets momentum. A loss by Bama to one of it's west rivals in conference puts us in a good situation to control where we go. All we have to do is take care of our business. With ND's smart "tough" scheduling, a loss isn't nearly as disastrous . Imagine trying to unseat a ND team that only lost to a USC or Michigan loaded with talent vs a Bama that lost to say Auburn or LSU and didn't even make it's own conference title game. I'm thinking of the future. Not just trying to crawl out of this sewer drain we're in.
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This makes no sense. Alabama's good fortunes are in no way positively tied to ours. We need to be be good. That is all. "Rooting" for or against Alabama does not help or hurt us. Alabama winning only keeps them on top and in no way helps us.
 
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#60
#60
I can't possibly think of any scenario in this universe where I would root for Alabama to do anything but lose!!!!!

The US should have 49 states & Alaska should come first alphabetically!!

Ala is beyond worthless

Compared to the way I feel about Alabama, Woody Hayes LOVED Michigan!!!
 
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rich4pres said:
In a perfect world that would be the correct answer. Unfortunately, Tennessee is incapable of hiring a coach worth a ****. (surprisingly, according to some, what I just said makes me less of a VFL than the people who are openly rooting for Alabama tonight :loco:). So, for now, we need all the help we can get. Nick Saban parading another trophy around does not help us at all. Instead of stopping the bleeding it is opening another wound. Besides, do you want to see even more Crimson Tide shirts around Knoxville (I certainly don't)?
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Ok, if you want to be realistic.. It only helps to improve the SEC. Alabama can only sign so many recruits. So now instead if worrying about losing recruits to Bama, well have to start worrying about ND too.

The one area Butch has a lot of inroads and potential for recruiting success is in Cincinnati. It's also a popular spot for Notre Dame. Think it would be that much harder for Butch there if Brian Kelly comes to town w a NC ring
 
#62
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thebjd said:
This makes no sense. Alabama's good fortunes are in no way positively tied to ours. We need to be be good. That is all. "Rooting" for or against Alabama does not help or hurt us. Alabama winning only keeps them on top and in no way helps us.
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Because a majority of the recruits that we get are from the states of Tennessee, Georgia, and Florida. While we may get recruits from other states these are probably the big three. Alabama also considers those states their big states (along with the state of Alabama). Most of Notre Dames recruits will be Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana, California, with other recruits spread across the country. While they may go into the south it isn't as often. So therefore, Alabama winning does directly hurt us, atleast more than Notre Dame. Besides, we are suppose to be Vol fans. Rooting for Alabama? Seriously?
 
#63
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rich4pres said:
Yeah, but while Notre Dame being a dominant team affects everybody, Alabama being a dominant team just affects the rest of the SEC (particularly Auburn and Tennessee). Since Notre Dame is a national brand teams like Ohio State, Michigan, USC, Oregon, etc. are not bothered one bit if Alabama is good but they are if it's Notre Dame. At the same token, while it may hurt us if Notre Dame is good, it will not hurt us more than it will anybody else. Alabama being good directly affects us.
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I'm just looking at it as, IF we pull it together and have the ability to make a serious run in the next 3-4 or so years, I like our chances of having Alabama to contend with than ND. If we aren't seriously concerned with national title implications, then what's the point of stressing over recruiting at all? We all want to see our team just get better and become respectable again, but to have our chance at the big prize become a very distant shot vs an somewhat outside shot doesn't sit well with me. To get there, we'd have to either go undefeated, or 1loss and beat the best that the west has to offer and they'd have to be highly ranked. They could slip up against Michigan or someone similar, tear up the rest of their schedule and likely get in over us. Media LOVES ND. They don't us. Don't forget the undefeated Auburn getting passed over for their other favorites.
 
#64
#64
thebjd said:
This makes no sense. Alabama's good fortunes are in no way positively tied to ours. We need to be be good. That is all. "Rooting" for or against Alabama does not help or hurt us. Alabama winning only keeps them on top and in no way helps us.
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The point isn't that I want Alabama to succeed. I hate those f-s and their fairweather fans. But, ND winning would have worse consequences.
 
#65
#65
golfballs said:
Ok, if you want to be realistic.. It only helps to improve the SEC. Alabama can only sign so many recruits. So now instead if worrying about losing recruits to Bama, well have to start worrying about ND too.

The one area Butch has a lot of inroads and potential for recruiting success is in Cincinnati. It's also a popular spot for Notre Dame. Think it would be that much harder for Butch there if Brian Kelly comes to town w a NC ring
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I'm sorry, but the SEC has been dominant for over seven years and it hasn't helped us one bit. In fact, we have stunk since then. All this "SEC is dominant" thing has done is let other schools in the SEC catch up to us.
 
#66
#66
No Tennessee fan should root for Alabama unless it helps the Vols in standings. Period. I'm a bigger Irish fan than Granny Holtz today.
 
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rich4pres said:
I'm sorry, but the SEC has been dominant for over seven years and it hasn't helped us one bit. In fact, we have stunk since then. All this "SEC is dominant" thing has done is let other schools in the SEC catch up to us.
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Our shi77y coaching and piss poor AD decisions have led to our suckage. Not the rest of the SEC catching up. If we can't beat them, what's the point of wanting to win? Would you prefer we became Utah and get left out after we run our jog through the daisy fields?
 
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Wezcoast said:
I'm just looking at it as, IF we pull it together and have the ability to make a serious run in the next 3-4 or so years, I like our chances of having Alabama to contend with than ND. If we aren't seriously concerned with national title implications, then what's the point of stressing over recruiting at all? We all want to see our team just get better and become respectable again, but to have our chance at the big prize become a very distant shot vs an somewhat outside shot doesn't sit well with me. To get there, we'd have to either go undefeated, or 1loss and beat the best that the west has to offer and they'd have to be highly ranked. They could slip up against Michigan or someone similar, tear up the rest of their schedule and likely get in over us. Media LOVES ND. They don't us. Don't forget the undefeated Auburn getting passed over for their other favorites.
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Yeah, but no matter what happens with Notre Dame I don't see the SEC losing spots in the upcoming playoff. The SEC should be good no matter who is on top. I feel that the SEC should get around 1-2 spots (2-3 spots if we go to an eight team playoff) no matter what. We compete against Alabama directly for those spots (considering we also play Alabama we really compete for those spots). More than likely Notre Dame would take a spot from a Big Ten/Pac 12 team. I feel the chances we lose a playoff spot to Alabama for whatever reason are a lot greater than losing a spot to Notre Dame.
 
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Wezcoast said:
Our shi77y coaching and piss poor AD decisions have led to our suckage. Not the rest of the SEC catching up. If we can't beat them, what's the point of wanting to win? Would you prefer we became Utah and get left out after we run our jog through the daisy fields?
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I agree. But practically everybody in the SEC improving but us isn't helping us. While we are digging out of quicksand we need someone to stop them from shoveling more in.
 
#74
#74
volsincebirth said:
I disagree. I want them to lose every game they play for eternity . Then get the death sentence for paying players again. I hate them more then every team in the country combined. They do nothing but cheat, cheat, cheat, win a championship or three, get caught, stay clean for four or five years, then repeat.
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Couldn't have said it better!!!
 
#75
#75
rich4pres said:
Yeah, but no matter what happens with Notre Dame I don't see the SEC losing spots in the upcoming playoff. The SEC should be good no matter who is on top. I feel that the SEC should get around 1-2 spots (2-3 spots if we go to an eight team playoff) no matter what. We compete against Alabama directly for those spots (considering we also play Alabama we really compete for those spots). More than likely Notre Dame would take a spot from a Big Ten/Pac 12 team. I feel the chances we lose a playoff spot to Alabama for whatever reason are a lot greater than losing a spot to Notre Dame.
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I guess I hadn't considered a couple of variables with that 1vs4 and 2vs3 format. It does throw a wrench in my thinking a bit and you may me more right than I . Back to the meteor prayers.
 
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