Who is worse? Juwan Howard or Penny Hardaway,

[Delmar]

The need for some to inject race into this discussion is interesting to say the least.

There are some that crawl out of the cesspool known as the Politics Forum every now and then and they don’t change much. If it walks like a duck……

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

Juwan Howard is now blackcinated.

 

[golfballs]

Apologizes to everyone BUT Gard. Never go full class.

Took a day and a half to reflect and realize he should apologize? That makes it even worse tbh

 

[butchna]

Took a day and a half to reflect and realize he should apologize? That makes it even worse tbh

Got the same earnestness as the Ryan Leaf apology.

 

[VolPack22]

Took a day and a half to reflect and realize he should apologize? That makes it even worse tbh

I would’ve had more respect for him if he decided to publicly resign after his apology. This apology is only coming out as a requirement of his punishment. Embarrassing. He will forever be known as Juwan Coward to me.

 

[Majors]

Penny. He cost us 30K in travel budget by his last minute Covid excuse. Howard reacted after he tried to walk away and Gard grabbed him and it escalated from there.

 

[Volfan76]

Juwan Howard is now blackcinated.

What an absolute joke.

 

[golfballs]

Penny. He cost us 30K in travel budget by his last minute Covid excuse. Howard reacted after he tried to walk away and Gard grabbed him and it escalated from there.

He merely “reacted”. Just like anyone would react

 

[Majors]

He merely “reacted”. Just like anyone would react

Could have been avoided had Wisc. Coach moved on explained it in the press conference, instead he grabbed his arm to get his attention. Not saying what Howard did was right but could have been avoided if the Wis. coach moves on.

 

[golfballs]

Could have been avoided had Wisc. Coach moved on explained it in the press conference, instead he grabbed his arm to get his attention. Not saying what Howard did was right but could have been avoided if the Wis. coach moves on.

That’s just after the fact rationalizing. There’s nothing Gard did which even remotely warrants Howard’s “reaction”. It was a light “hey let’s discuss” touch, which Howard responded by grabbing Gard’s shirt in his fist. This is entirely on Howard.

 

[Lawrence Wright]

That’s just after the fact rationalizing. There’s nothing Gard did which even remotely warrants Howard’s “reaction”. It was a light “hey let’s discuss” touch, which Howard responded by grabbing Gard’s shirt in his fist. This is entirely on Howard.

It’s not entirely on Howard.

Howard’s reaction to Gard grabbing his arm is on Howard, as it was over the top, but Gard is not blameless here. He played a role in escalating the situation.

 

[Majors]

That’s just after the fact rationalizing. There’s nothing Gard did which even remotely warrants Howard’s “reaction”. It was a light “hey let’s discuss” touch, which Howard responded by grabbing Gard’s shirt in his fist. This is entirely on Howard.

I'm not disagreeing, but I'd file that in the category of "read the room" and talk later. Once Howard made it clear "don't f'n touch me" you just walk away.

 

[golfballs]

I'm not disagreeing, but I'd file that in the category of "read the room" and talk later. Once Howard made it clear "don't f'n touch me" you just walk away.

Howard grabbed his shirt in his fist. Then they were separated. At that point Gard was no longer involved at all.

 

[golfballs]

It’s not entirely on Howard.

Howard’s reaction to Gard grabbing his arm is on Howard, as it was over the top, but Gard is not blameless here. He played a role in escalating the situation.

Gard is entirely blameless for Howard slapping his assistant, and for the ensuing scuffle. Nothing Gard did should ever provoke such a response.

 

[onevol74]

What an absolute joke.

It is a joke that Michigan is retaining him. Black eye on their program.

 

[Majors]

Howard grabbed his shirt in his fist. Then they were separated. At that point Gard was no longer involved at all.

First after Gard stopped him as he walked by? Again, read the room and say your peace in the press conference.

 

[golfballs]

First after Gard stopped him as he walked by? Again, read the room and say your peace in the press conference.

Uh yeah… nothing wrong with talking to the other coach after the game. You’re professionals. But that’s kind of the problem. Howard isn’t a professional. This isn’t a rec league game

 

[Majors]

Uh yeah… nothing wrong with talking to the other coach after the game. You’re professionals. But that’s kind of the problem. Howard isn’t a professional. This isn’t a rec league game

agree to disagree. The professional side works both ways. A coach walks by you, they want nothing to do with the situation but once you engage that person by stopping them to get their attention then "professionalism" is gone. I'm not siding with Howard or Gard, but the situation could have been avoided by both sides.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I hope we never hear Howard complain he didn't get a chance to coach in the NBA because....... whatever.

The truth is: you're not that good of a coach and you're not emotionally stable enough to lead college students much less fully grown professionals.

I NEVER want to hear Howard say he was passed over. Nope. You didn't measure up to the job.

 

[VolPack22]

Penny. He cost us 30K in travel budget by his last minute Covid excuse. Howard reacted after he tried to walk away and Gard grabbed him and it escalated from there.

Juwan Coward asked Gard to take his hands off him, which Gard did and then police stepped in and appeared like it was going to calm down. However, Coward continued running his mouth and escalating further. This is 100% on Coward. Dude needs anger management as part of his punishment too.

 

[Majors]

Juwan Coward asked Gard to take his hands off him, which Gard did and then police stepped in and appeared like it was going to calm down. However, Coward continued running his mouth and escalating further. This is 100% on Coward. Dude needs anger management as part of his punishment too.

Don't put your hands on someone who is avoiding confrontation. Like I said previously, state your case in the press conference and move on.

 

[VolPack22]

Don't put your hands on someone who is avoiding confrontation. Like I said previously, state your case in the press conference and move on.

He took his hands off him after he told him to. What more do you want? Coward is a person that needs mental help. He should think about what his grandmother that raised him would have thought about his actions. Not only did he assault someone, but it caused his players to join in too. He incited violence for no reason.

 

[golfballs]

A lot of people do the arm grab when shaking hands, let alone when they want to talk. It was innocuous. Nothing at all would have been said about it had it just been some exchanging of words. It is ONLY being brought up because Juwan Howard thought it was the right decision in the moment to slap an opposing coach.

 

[Majors]

He took his hands off him after he told him to. What more do you want? Coward is a person that needs mental help. He should think about what his grandmother that raised him would have thought about his actions. Not only did he assault someone, but it caused his players to join in too. He incited violence for no reason.

Don't put your hands on someone that's the lesson. Had Gard not put his hands on Howard then it's on Howard. But he did and it escalated after that.

 

[Lawrence Wright]

You can’t excuse Garb’s arm grab when it’s clear there was already tension.

You also can’t excuse Howard’s response to his arm being grabbed.

The situation could have been handled better by both parties.