Who will be Florida's new football coach if Muschamp gets fired after this season?

[Burger]

Didn't he have some issues that kept Notre Dame or some other large program from actually hiring him? (As in, the deal was stopped close to its final stages or something?)

O'Leary lied on his resume awhile ago. Notre Dame hired him, and they fired him 5 days later.

YouRememberThat.Com - Taking You Back In Time... - George O Leary Resume Scandal

 

[TrueOrange]

MSU wouldn't try to keep Mullen if Florida came calling. MSU has lost head coaches before:

Bernie Bierman(to Tulane then Minnesota)
Murray Warmath(to Minnesota)
Darrell Royal(to Texas)

Both Bierman and Warmath played for General Neyland at Tennessee.

First, for the comparison that was made here, Mississippi State in the 50s couldn't have hoped to compare to (or keep up with) anything a school like Texas could have offered to a coach.

That said, Royal left Texas for Washington, not Texas.



I'm not really sure how what Mississippi State did in the mid-1920s or the 1950s - considering what its program likely was back then - is any indication of how it would react to anything in the current day (over 60 years later than the last two of those, and nearly a hundred since the first example).

 

[TrueOrange]

O'Leary lied on his resume awhile ago. Notre Dame hired him, and they fired him 5 days later.

YouRememberThat.Com - Taking You Back In Time... - George O Leary Resume Scandal

Ah thank you


That seems like something that could keep a bigger program from considering him in the future, couldn't it? As kind of a red flag?

 

[TrueOrange]

Texas had that effect on a lot of teams. Baylor, Bama and Stanford IIRC as a minimum.

Yeah, several schools got scared and did this before Texas even made a move or talked to any of their coaches.

Didn't Auburn as well, once some rumors started?

 

[Burger]

Ah thank you


That seems like something that could keep a bigger program from considering him in the future, couldn't it? As kind of a red flag?

It could, but at this point in his career. I don't exactly know if he would want to leave UCF. I mean the guy had the best and worst seasons in history at that school. He might like the fact he will never lose his job.

 

[Grand Vol]

Didn't Auburn as well, once some rumors started?

Don't recall. But that could easily have been because of the performance last year as well.

Texas fans had more of a fascination with Saban than we did with Gruden. And that's saying a lot.

 

[TrueOrange]

If and IMO it's a big IF, Muschamp is canned UF will look to spend its money wisely. I don't think they have moronic AD like we do. Regardless of what us UT fans think, UF is a big time job at a big time school. They will not hire a Dooley type. Look for them to get a very good coach and continue their winning ways. Way too much talent for them not to succeed.

Oh boy, the Dooley hire.

To be fair, UT kind of rushed the Dooley hire, or more of felt it had to rush the hire and find a coach quickly.

It was almost Feb. when Kiffin bolted; it was extremely late in the offseason - two weeks before signing day, wasn't it? - and the AD was trying to find a coach that would pick up and move quickly (there were a lot of popular names that flat out said no to jumping jobs that quickly and that late in the football year; pretty much - sad as it was - Dooley was the one interviewed that actually said yes). The actual hire came like, what, 3 days after Kiffin left, in a move that seemed a lot what felt like a stop gap for the program, its perception, fans, incoming recruits, etc. (Feelings of sort of "things are going to h-ll here, just get someone, anybody, in and soon)



That said, that doesn't take away from it being a bad hire.


In all honesty, we should have just assigned an interim. However, unfortunately, - and again to fully be fair - doing that didn't really become the common practice for major programs that had been caught off guard by/ had to dismiss head coaches so late in the offseason until a few years later, though.

(edit: okay, but let's not derail the thread too much, lol. Back to the topic at hand)

 

[TrueOrange]

It could, but at this point in his career. I don't exactly know if he would want to leave UCF. I mean the guy had the best and worst seasons in history at that school. He might like the fact he will never lose his job.

Also possible.

Just seems like one of those things that, if one were applying for a job, he or she'd definitely get asked about what happened and where really no answer given would make it any less uncomfortable.

 

[bamacheats]

Remember when UT beat Fla.

Lol

Yep. Made spurrier quit.

The Butchslap streak starts this year. I guarandamntee you'll never show up again.

 

[Grand Vol]

Also possible.

Just seems like one of those things that, if one were applying for a job, he or she'd definitely get asked about what happened and where really no answer given would make it any less uncomfortable.

Honestly, age will be a factor more than anything with O'Leary. He's just shy of 70 and I don't think Florida would take a chance on a new coach that's reaching his sunset years and likely will retire where he's at.

Again, my money is on DeRuyter (Fresno), McNeill (East Carolina) or Niumatalolo (Navy).

 

[TrueOrange]

Don't recall. But that could easily have been because of the performance last year as well.

Texas fans had more of a fascination with Saban than we did with Gruden. And that's saying a lot.

I think that (Texas) was the case in Auburn as well, but I could be mistaken.

I believe SI came out with reports early December (edit: looks like the 3rd; SI apparently removed the article at some point) that - while not saying Texas was looking at/interested in Gus Malzahn - pretty much was linking the two or something.



Malzahn shot it down shortly after (edit: looks like it was the 5th).

Auburn's Gus Malzahn responds to report linking him to Texas, says 'tickled to death' to coach Auburn (updated) | AL.com



And then Malzahn got a 6-year extension from Auburn that came shortly after (edit:looks like it was Dec. 6...so the day before last year's SEC Championship game).

Auburn locks up Gus Malzahn with contract extension, raise to $3.85 million (updated) | AL.com


Looks like they got worried and bit.

 

[TrueOrange]

Honestly, age will be a factor more than anything with O'Leary. He's just shy of 70 and I don't think Florida would take a chance on a new coach that's reaching his sunset years and likely will retire where he's at.

Again, my money is on DeRuyter (Fresno), McNeill (East Carolina) or Niumatalolo (Navy).

Didn't know he was that old. Ok that makes more sense.

A big program's not going to want to be looking at someone that far up in age unless they have a resume like Saban's.

 

[TrueOrange]

It won't happen, but how cool would it be to see the Ole ball coach back in Gainesville?

As a UT fan I don't EVER want to see him back at UF.

I think there might have been some bad blood or bridges burnt or something there there he wasn't happy/comfortable with when he left / as the reason he left.


Either way, I always felt that - when he left the Redskins after 2004 - he was looking at college jobs while UF was looking to replace Zook, but he removed his own name from consideration (I think his quote was something like "12 years at Florida was probably long enough") seemed pretty telling.

 

[TrueOrange]

I imagine a TN loss would begin a coaching search, unless said search is already underway.

Not that early in the year.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

Look at this s***. Florida fans giggling with each other over Tennessee when they lose because Tennessee fans hate Florida.

Go figure... Tennessee fans hate Florida. Who could have known?

A few piss-ants from Florida some how get away with running their mouths daily here. It's so old.

I'd be banned after 1 comment on a UF***ing Suck Forum, if I laughed about Florida losing. Add in showing off a power T(as they proudly show their gator logo here) and I probably couldn't even post to start with over there, let alone talk crap about Florida if I were to show a power T.

That's what makes VN so great, you can have dissenting opinions from opposing fanbases without being banned or everyone *****ing. Gator Country, is a joke. They suspended for 3 days for "disrespecting" their baseball program and by disrespecting I mean expressing a view that didn't coincide with theirs. I was banned from Cats Pause (possibly the most retarded name ever) within a day and VandyMania rejected my request to join.

The UF guys are great posters and respectful and classy 95% of the time. Gogators kinda showed up running his mouth outta nowhere but other than that everyone else is cool. If his act was carried out by one of us on Gator Country he'd been gone a long time ago. Fortunately for him, Freak has a longer leash.

 

[Falcons02]

I got this one...that would be a difference of $1 million.

Even I can do that one.

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[Falcons02]

From my prospective, UF and UGA are sleeping giants, despite their relative success in the past few years (although UGA is a better example).

Both programs are the flagship schools in highly populated southern states that are loaded with talent, and both could and should be on Alabama's level year after year.

Tennessee needs to take advantage of the fact that Richt and Muschamp don't have iron grips over their programs and states the way Saban does, because if both schools began operating the same way, it would be extremely difficult for us (and even South Carolina) to ever be competitive in the East again.

As good as Saban has been at Alabama, I think he could have been even better at UGA or UF. Same with Malzahn at Auburn.

Except that UT has now annexed new territory, Far East Tennessee (formerly known as "North Carolina"... to be renamed to "Marquez North Carolina" after MN goes beast mode and wins the 2016 Heisman.)

 

[amazingGRACE]

I can't stand the guy but my gosh James Franklin at Florida would have been absolute hell for the SEC. Especially us Lol.

 

[MrBiggles]

If they fire Muschamp they are just as likely to hire the OC from Texas A&M and that would be hell for the SEC! And he's under 30!

 

[Falcons02]

If they fire Muschamp they are just as likely to hire the OC from Texas A&M and that would be hell for the SEC! And he's under 30!

According to an anonymous source he isn't a man yet. Gotta be 40.

 

[Weezer]

With the upset over LSU, I think Mullen would have to be near the top of the list, unless Miss St just tanks the rest of the season.

Thought about Ruffen McNeil as a possibility, but his age works as a factor against him. He's 55, Mullen is early 40's. Unless there's just bad blood there, Mullen would trump him in every way imo. Younger, coaches in a more competitive conference....

Of course there's always the assistant route, but I just think a school like UF would prefer to hire someone with actual HC experience. I still say their Saban/Gruden move would be to throw a ton of money at Bob Stoops and try to lure him away from OK, but I don't see that working imo.

There doesn't really seem to be a lot of names out there right now that would fit what you would think would be UF's criteria and that would be willing to make the move. Seems like this year is going to be a bad year for anyone searching for a new coach imo.

 

[GOATeric14berry]

Bronco mindenhall IMO.

 

[JMSqb11]

No, not really. We know the team is mediocre. We are just trying to find out whether its a function of bad game preparation, poor recruiting, misjudging talent/poor recruiting, injuries getting development off track, inadequate position coaching, rotating door for the OC position, or just the ebb and flow of the game.

Two years ago Florida overachieved. Last year Florida underachieved. This year, and perhaps next, will hopefully tell us whether the problem is Muschamp, in one form or another.

So if the trend continues, Florida will just achieve this year, right?

 

[JMSqb11]

Oh boy, the Dooley hire.

To be fair, UT kind of rushed the Dooley hire, or more of felt it had to rush the hire and find a coach quickly.

It was almost Feb. when Kiffin bolted; it was extremely late in the offseason - two weeks before signing day, wasn't it? - and the AD was trying to find a coach that would pick up and move quickly (there were a lot of popular names that flat out said no to jumping jobs that quickly and that late in the football year; pretty much - sad as it was - Dooley was the one interviewed that actually said yes). The actual hire came like, what, 3 days after Kiffin left, in a move that seemed a lot what felt like a stop gap for the program, its perception, fans, incoming recruits, etc. (Feelings of sort of "things are going to h-ll here, just get someone, anybody, in and soon)



That said, that doesn't take away from it being a bad hire.


In all honesty, we should have just assigned an interim. However, unfortunately, - and again to fully be fair - doing that didn't really become the common practice for major programs that had been caught off guard by/ had to dismiss head coaches so late in the offseason until a few years later, though.

(edit: okay, but let's not derail the thread too much, lol. Back to the topic at hand)

Had Hamilton not been AD, Fulmer would have been perfect interim. If he won in 2010, keep him. If he lost (no bowl), let him go

 

[Gramps]

No, not really. We know the team is mediocre. We are just trying to find out whether its a function of bad game preparation, poor recruiting, misjudging talent/poor recruiting, injuries getting development off track, inadequate position coaching, rotating door for the OC position, or just the ebb and flow of the game.

Two years ago Florida overachieved. Last year Florida underachieved. This year, and perhaps next, will hopefully tell us whether the problem is Muschamp, in one form or another.

Do you actually think another year may be needed to know Muschamp is the problem ?

I predict Lane Kiffin will be roaming the sidelines of the gators next year as the HC.