Who's up for December Delirium, a 32 team playoff?

#53
#53
It would create some mis-matches that wouldn't be fun to watch. Even if you drew a cupcake opponent, you could still get injured, and not able to play the real competition. Remember Tennessee vs Akron not so long ago.
 
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I understand not wanting to see teams with a certain number of losses - but with the imbalance of the schedules, some of the 3 and 4 loss teams could probably beat the teams with 0-2 losses. The problem with selecting 2, 4 and now 12 has been around determining who is the best teams. That is completely subjective, in my opinion. Expanding the field removes some of the subjectiveness by having teams play each other and prove it on the field.

Constantly folks on here are saying that teams like Indiana, Penn State, Notre Dame and Texas have had easy glide paths and that the ACC and Big 12 are weak. And that the SEC, from top to bottom is just tough. There have not been enough games between the various conferences to prove that to be true or false. What happens is that the selection is based on number wins or lack of losses which is a component of a team's schedule.

So you either decrease the field and say - sorry, I don't care who you played, you lost too many games resulting with the teams with the "best records" being selected or you increase the field to ensure you get enough teams from the major conferences along with the top teams from the G5 group and decide it on the football field.

Even strength of schedule is subjective to which conferences and teams one feels are better. That too is influenced by scheduling that is typically set years in advance.

I like the idea because it would create matchups that would make the entire process more objective. That is the beauty of championships in other sports ... basketball, baseball, softball ... you prove it on the field / court.
 
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To be clear - I do think the SEC is a very difficult conference and I believe the days of undefeated SEC teams is OVER. I also believe that scheduling within the BIG 10 has inadvertently protected some of the teams which is why they are the only conference that seems to have avoided the 2 or more-loss syndrome that is rampant in the SEC, ACC and Big 12. That is probably going to continue making the Big 10 look like the power conference, when it may not be.

But the Big 10 has the best records - so if this was a 2-team selection it would be an all-Big 10 matchup. If this was just 4, it is probably 3 Big 10 teams and Texas or Notre Dame. Less means scheduling within these power conferences becomes the deciding factor of who is in not who is really the 'best teams'.
 
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And to add, when it was 2 and 4, we always found out via the bowl game matchups how strong the conferences really were.
 
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Arrested Devolopment said:
December Delirium (a la March Madness): a 32 team college football playoff through the month of December where the top 8 seeds get a bye. Games in first two rounds played on Friday night, all day Saturday, and showcase Sunday.

Pros: more excitement for a broader range of fans, zombie bowls now have relevance, more revenue for teams

Cons: logistics of travel, potential injuries, nothing gets done during December

Thoughts?
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1st weekend 24 -> 16
2nd weekend 16 -> 8
3rd weekend 8 -> 4
4th weekend 4 -> 2
5th weekend 2 -> 1

Some of those might not be weekends due to New Year's Day.

Where do 25-32 fit in?
 
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sami said:
Agree. 12 teams is at least 4 too many if we're talking about legitimate championship contenders.

This idea that CFB will produce some kind of March Madness deal with huge upsets and 'Cinderella stories' is just that - madness.
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Last week says hi
 
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woodpusher said:
1st weekend 24 -> 16
2nd weekend 16 -> 8
3rd weekend 8 -> 4
4th weekend 4 -> 2
5th weekend 2 -> 1

Some of those might not be weekends due to New Year's Day.

Where do 25-32 fit in?
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This math doesn't make sense either unless I'm missing something.
 
#62
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Knock the conferences back to 10 teams with no conference championship. Play 9 conference games and have a 16 team playoff. Tell indies to join a conference. Rebuild P5s and then put in 3 more champs plus next 8 highest ranked teams. Indies could go in those 8. No byes. 2 brackets.
 
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woodpusher said:
Mine or Arrested Development's?
He has Round 1 going from 24 teams to 16.
Round 2 is 16 down to 8
Quarterfinals 8 down to 4
Semifinals 4 down to 2
Finals 2 down to 1.

Seeds 25-32 seem to have disappeared.
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Yeah, I had to read his again. What he's talking about is a 24 team playoff like you said.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
I'd love it. Upsets would happen just like basketball.

P.s. there's not as much parity in basketball as people seem to think. There's been 80 NCAA tournaments. Ten schools out of over 300 have won about 60 of those 80.
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Yeah, but a mid-major has a much better chance of being one of the ten best basketball teams than it does in football. It's not necessarily parity, but just the difference in the two games. The NCAA basketball tournament model is terrible.
 
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Arrested Devolopment said:
I hear what you're saying but there is a number higher than 12 and lower than 48 that allows stronger teams from harder conferences (SEC) not to be left out due to the "fairness" of allowing low SOS teams (eg Notre Dame, Indiana) or weak conference champions (Miami, AZS/BYU) to take their places. It's a problem that can be solved by math and logistics, and IMO it would be very interesting to watch.
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Well, I don't have any say...just musing. :cool:
 
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It would cause an extreme amount of meaningless season games. Example would be this Vandy game. It goes from the most important game of the season to one you rest your stars.

Also, the miss matches would be glaring and you'd get lopsided scores early and often. Who would even want to watch Alabama beat the crap out of a Louisiana or a Liberty first week? This is not basketball where small schools can commonly compete.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Yeah, I had to read his again. What he's talking about is a 24 team playoff like you said.
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Yes. OP lays out a perfect 24 team playoff where round one has a bye for the top 8. This produces an 8 game round 1 and 2.

However, he describes it in the title as a 32 team playoff. If he wants 32, there can’t be byes like that.
 
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I would rather see it capped at 16 teams for P4 (no bye) and G4 have their own seperate playoff and championship game, like the FCS has. Both would make for more compelling products and I would absolutely watch the hell out of both!

1. Go back to 10 regular season games (9 conference games, 1 ooc game)

2. No conference CG's. Conference champs determined by record (highest # of quality wins or head to head determines tie-breaker).

3. Independents must join a conference to be eligible.

4. Conference winners get automatic bids. Remaining bids determined by national AP ranking.

5. Top 8 seeded hosts bottom 8 in round 1.

6. Remaining rounds are played in the major bowls: Sugar, Orange, Cotton, Rose, Fiesta, & Peach. Then the championship game at the end.
 
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As long as there aren’t many auto bids.. don’t need a bunch of scrubs getting in there while sec is murdering each other. The regular season will be dead if this happens either way.
 
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That’s way too many for football. You’d have to win 5 games to win the championship. 16 is a nice even number. No byes. Top 4 getting mid majors or avg big 5 team at home 1st round. Prob an upset every now and then. 1st two rounds before Christmas, and semis on new years.
 
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