Why are conservatives not funny?

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I love this Shane Gillis bit so much (he got canceled for bad Asian jokes. May have gotten away with it if they were clever, especially if he was famous at the time):

 
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kiddiedoc said:
They are both incredibly funny. Prob my two favorite "newish" stand ups.

Admittedly, I disagree with Huff on most political topics. However, given the list he provided, we have very similar (and excellent) tastes with Comedy.
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We just don't keep up with it anymore, I'm sure those guys are great. I'll check them out.

There is a female (middle aged woman) comedian my wife loves, her bits are pretty PG-13 and damn funny I just can't remember her name.
 
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hog88 said:
We just don't keep up with it anymore, I'm sure those guys are great. I'll check them out.

There is a female (middle aged woman) comedian my wife loves, her bits are pretty PG-13 and damn funny I just can't remember her name.
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Gillis is pretty good. His special olympics bit is really good. Also has some decent sketch stuff.
 
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n_huffhines said:
But it's not really the conservatives (if we're talking comics and show writers), it's typically people who are otherwise moderate or liberal.

Rogan holds socialist principles. He voted for Bernie. Chappelle's not voting for a Republican.
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Why wouldn't chapelle vote Republican?
 
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hog88 said:
We just don't keep up with it anymore, I'm sure those guys are great. I'll check them out.

There is a female (middle aged woman) comedian my wife loves, her bits are pretty PG-13 and damn funny I just can't remember her name.
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LeAnne Morgan? My wife likes her, too. She actually lives right down the road.
 
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turbovol said:
Conservatives tend not to be smart, and if you're not smart it's hard to be clever or witty like Stewart, Colbert or Oliver, to name three.
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Why is it always those of a plainer mien who attempt denigrate their betters? Like the butterfaces who decry the beauty queen.

Intellect seems to be relatively evenly distributed between left and right. Wisdom however....
 
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turbovol said:
Conservatives tend not to be smart, and if you're not smart it's hard to be clever or witty like Stewart, Colbert or Oliver, to name three.
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Stewart can be clever and witty at times, but isn't as much of either as he thinks. The other 2 are ripoffs of the former.

Stewart has done this obnoxious thing for years where he articulates serious political opinions, but when he faces inevitable critiques of those opinions, his response is "You need to get a life - I'm just a comedian. The show that comes on after mine is puppets making prank phone calls."
 
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05_never_again said:
Historically, most comedians have been liberal because a pretty big component of humor, especially political or cultural humor, is poking fun at the established order. They make fun or highlight the perceived absurdity of political norms, cultural norms, etc. By definition, conservatives are less likely to do that. They support the political and cultural norms, and view it as an attack on something they hold to be sacred.

However, a big reason why a lot of people find conservatives poking fun at wokeism to be funny is that, over time, wokeism has become something of an establishment opinion. Especially in the corporate world and media writ large (except conservative media). Liberals don't like it because they perceive it as an attack on something they hold to be sacred.
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This has had me thinking. It's always OK to make fun of people being too sensitive. It's OK to make jokes about every group. But I have always agreed with George Carlin that you should pick on the big guy, not the little guy. Punching down is easy and can be harmful.

Picking on wokeness is tricky because wokeness is about recognizing the challenges minority groups face, so now you're running the risk of picking on minorities. Again, it's OK to make fun of every group, IMO. But it can also cross the line that Carlin talked about. Yeah, minorities have more political power now and we don't like DEI initiatives, and all that, but they still aren't the man.

I got tired of Chappelle picking on trans. It was funny at first but it wasn't such great material that he needs to continuously bring it up. He's just trying to prove a point. I'd like it a lot more if he were picking on Pelosi for using trans people as pawns, you know? Go for the people in the conversation who actually have power. Maybe he has, but I didn't watch the most recent special.
 
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n_huffhines said:
No wonder you think comics aren't good anymore. These are two of the top comics in the world and you don't know who they are. Nate Bargatze is from Tennessee, does clean humor, he's Christian, and he's fkn hilarious. If you're not tapped into him, you're not tapped in at all. He's on like his 5th or 6th special filming in an NBA arena.

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Ok I know him now but didn’t know his name .. he is funny as hell
 
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turbovol said:
Conservatives tend not to be smart, and if you're not smart it's hard to be clever or witty like Stewart, Colbert or Oliver, to name three.
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I can’t tell anymore if you are just dumb or just like saying stupid sh!t for attention.
 
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n_huffhines said:
This has had me thinking. It's always OK to make fun of people being too sensitive. It's OK to make jokes about every group. But I have always agreed with George Carlin that you should pick on the big guy, not the little guy. Punching down is easy and can be harmful.

Picking on wokeness is tricky because wokeness is about recognizing the challenges minority groups face, so now you're running the risk of picking on minorities. Again, it's OK to make fun of every group, IMO. But it can also cross the line that Carlin talked about. Yeah, minorities have more political power now and we don't like DEI initiatives, and all that, but they still aren't the man.

I got tired of Chappelle picking on trans. It was funny at first but it wasn't such great material that he needs to continuously bring it up. He's just trying to prove a point. I'd like it a lot more if he were picking on Pelosi for using trans people as pawns, you know? Go for the people in the conversation who actually have power. Maybe he has, but I didn't watch the most recent special.
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Not sure. A lot of the anti-wokeism stuff I see (memes, etc.) isn't making fun of wokeism as an ideology itself, but making fun of the corporate world, the media, universities, etc. for making a big show about their embrace of it. Minorities themselves might not be the man, but many of these entities who claim to be advocating on their behalf are.

I don't have a problem if someone wants to punch up, down, or sideways if I think the critique they are trying to make is valid. That's actually one of the precepts of wokeism that I disagree with, which is that all claims made by a marginalized group are correct, morally right, justified, etc., and any critique of a power structure is correct, morally right, or justified. What I object to are dishonest or disingenuous takes, even if the person making them is punching up.
 
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05_never_again said:
Not sure. A lot of the anti-wokeism stuff I see (memes, etc.) isn't making fun of wokeism as an ideology itself, but making fun of the corporate world, the media, universities, etc. for making a big show about their embrace of it. Minorities themselves might not be the man, but many of these entities who claim to be advocating on their behalf are.

I don't have a problem if someone wants to punch up, down, or sideways if I think the critique they are trying to make is valid. That's actually one of the precepts of wokeism that I disagree with, which is that all claims made by a marginalized group are correct, morally right, justified, etc., and any critique of a power structure is correct, morally right, or justified. What I object to are dishonest or disingenuous takes, even if the person making them is punching up.
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I think that's a pretty narrow definition of wokeism that doesn't apply to many people who consider themselves woke. It's just that you acknowledge the struggles of minorities. That's it. You don't have to agree that any critique of a power structure is correct. And you can make fun of people who claim that, be my guest.

To be clear, make fun of political ideologies like wokeness. That's fair game.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I think that's a pretty narrow definition of wokeism that doesn't apply to many people who consider themselves woke. It's just that you acknowledge the struggles of minorities. That's it. You don't have to agree that any critique of a power structure is correct. And you can make fun of people who claim that, be my guest.

To be clear, make fun of political ideologies like wokeness. That's fair game.
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You're citing a pretty soft definition of the term. Many people (easily a majority) who espouse that ideology will say that goes nowhere near far enough, and that people who just acknowledge it are "fake allies" or some other term.
 
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