Why Can't We Question???

#26
#26
champyvol said:
nearly everybody in every conference i talk to which is mostly pac 10, sec, big ten. all are just like me, they believe kiffin lost this class when he told boyd to take a hike. watch what the kid does for clemson. it was a bad move. there are 8 sec teams having better recruiting seasons than we are. and for the most part they are recruiting there needs, not like us.
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Perhaps you need more informed friends with that sort of nonsense. I love how some people on here feel they know more then 3 national recruiters on 1 staff. I can't determine if their Fulmerites under the witness protection program or rival school posers on here.
 
#27
#27
champyvol said:
i think so, i said it when he told him, and everything has went downhill since.
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I wouldnt say everything has went downhill. I would say that a lot of people around here had too high expectations. If CLK said he doesnt think he would fit in his system, I think he would know better than any of us "message board coaches". I say 2010 = top 5 class!
 
#28
#28
VolBall333 said:
You are dead on ChampyVol. You can't act like you're Knute Rockne when your head coaching record is 5 -15. It wasn't like Boyd and Petty weren't good players. That sealed the deal for the downward spiral. Do you not think that these recruits talk to each other????
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thank you. they do talk to each other and when you tell a 5 star QB that he doesn't fit your offense it just doesn't look good.
 
#31
#31
GmanTN said:
Perhaps you need more informed friends with that sort of nonsense. I love how some people on here feel they know more then 3 national recruiters on 1 staff. I can't determine if their Fulmerites under the witness protection program or rival school posers on here.
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in my own opinion and many others he made a critical mistake. you haven't been on here long enough to realize i called for fulmers head 3 years ago. i don't think anybody in there right mind would call me that. also kiffin was my first choice along with butch davis for the job. the way he has went about it i have lost alot of confidence in him. it just doesn't make any sense to me or alot of people. maybe he knows what he is doing, but with scholly limits and the talent we have now i really wish he would let us in on it.
 
#34
#34
vols461 said:
yeah but you make it sound like all is lost, so that is what he is saying.
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well after seeing what i saw last year on the field, seeing the current class weak on lineman and we graduate quite a few next year. i wouldn't say all is lost, but i am concerned seeing what bama, lsu, and florida are doing. for some reason some of you think these guys are not good. i'm just not one of them.
 
#35
#35
champyvol said:
well after seeing what i saw last year on the field, seeing the current class weak on lineman and we graduate quite a few next year. i wouldn't say all is lost, but i am concerned seeing what bama, lsu, and florida are doing. for some reason some of you think these guys are not good. i'm just not one of them.
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i dont believe i have heard anyone say UF, bama, or lsu were bad teams.
 
#36
#36
champyvol said:
in my own opinion and many others he made a critical mistake. you haven't been on here long enough to realize i called for fulmers head 3 years ago. i don't think anybody in there right mind would call me that. also kiffin was my first choice along with butch davis for the job. the way he has went about it i have lost alot of confidence in him. it just doesn't make any sense to me or alot of people. maybe he knows what he is doing, but with scholly limits and the talent we have now i really wish he would let us in on it.
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As I stated earlier we have not lost 1 recruit that our new staff has sought after. The recruits we lost were committed to the previous staff, and from the way things look to me our new staff would have not pursued alot of them but Hambone told CLK to honor the schollys. All he did was assess their talent level and tell them he did not feel they would fit in the direction we are heading and the "ye of little faith" question the staff and their accountability. It matters not to me if we only sign 15 this year if it is 15 that feels a void. It also means that will give us more schollys to sign next year.
 
#37
#37
VolBall333 said:
I was all for getting rid of the old staff and I'm excited about the staff we have. However, a few weeks ago there were people on here spouting off how we were going to "steal" all of these recruits from Fl, AL, LSU, etc. and how awesome it was that all of the other SEC coaches "feared" our new staff. Now when it is apparent that our class is going to be in the bottom half of the SEC, everyone jumps on the "wait till next year" bandwagon. I question our staff because of the way they have let some of these kids "go". They should be questioned.
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Oh my.. the hall monitors will be after you now.. :cray:

I can't believe you would even suggest such a thing.. this is going ot be interesting to read and watch :popcorn:
 
#38
#38
GmanTN said:
As I stated earlier we have not lost 1 recruit that our new staff has sought after. The recruits we lost were committed to the previous staff, and from the way things look to me our new staff would have not pursued alot of them but Hambone told CLK to honor the schollys. All he did was assess their talent level and tell them he did not feel they would fit in the direction we are heading and the "ye of little faith" question the staff and their accountability. It matters not to me if we only sign 15 this year if it is 15 that feels a void. It also means that will give us more schollys to sign next year.
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:good!:
 
#39
#39
GmanTN said:
As I stated earlier we have not lost 1 recruit that our new staff has sought after. The recruits we lost were committed to the previous staff, and from the way things look to me our new staff would have not pursued alot of them but Hambone told CLK to honor the schollys. All he did was assess their talent level and tell them he did not feel they would fit in the direction we are heading and the "ye of little faith" question the staff and their accountability. It matters not to me if we only sign 15 this year if it is 15 that feels a void. It also means that will give us more schollys to sign next year.
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alot of what you say is true, but it is of my opinion that the reason alot of the recruits now that are turning us down is because of the boyd drama.
 
#40
#40
champyvol said:
alot of what you say is true, but it is of my opinion that the reason alot of the recruits now that are turning us down is because of the boyd drama.
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well everyone is entitled to their own opinion. its just yours is very far fetched.
 
#41
#41
Do you take a kid like that, when you don't think he fits the most important position on the field. Especially when the kid could go elsewhere and play. Your doing the kid an injustice by lying to him.
 
#42
#42
champyvol said:
alot of what you say is true, but it is of my opinion that the reason alot of the recruits now that are turning us down is because of the boyd drama.
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How is the Boyd situation related to some of these recruits going elsewhere? Are you referring to the QB situation?
 
#43
#43
vols461 said:
i dont believe i have heard anyone say UF, bama, or lsu were bad teams.
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no, but alot of people believe that kiffin will be able to coach our current talent up to the level of these guys. i'm not saying he can't, but i would not hold my breath on it. if he does next year he should get paid 5 million a year. plus we still lose alot of lineman next year.
 
#44
#44
champyvol said:
no, but alot of people believe that kiffin will be able to coach our current talent up to the level of these guys. i'm not saying he can't, but i would not hold my breath on it. if he does next year he should get paid 5 million a year. plus we still lose alot of lineman next year.
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I think what people have said is that he will coach up the talent to be competitive in these games. not win them all! however I wouldnt be surprised if CLK pulled the ol' upset on one of them.
 
#45
#45
Volfan8282 said:
How is the Boyd situation related to some of these recruits going elsewhere? Are you referring to the QB situation?
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do you think this kid who plays in the same all star games as most of these recruits gave us very high marks. the kids talk about there visits, and then the kid tears it up not running , but throwing the ball in the all star game and it really looks bad. we haven't been able to land the big time players, since they have been staying away.
 
#46
#46
vols461 said:
well everyone is entitled to their own opinion. its just yours is very far fetched.
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Why is it farfetched? Even Brown has said that he is worried about the QB situation.. I think the guy is just saying that he thinks the Boyd dramam has something to do with the loss of playes.. He isn't saying that he agrees with them leaving.. I just wminder how many will go to Clemson now.. It think the Boyd and Thigpen drama has a lot to do with our current situation..:yes:
 
#47
#47
champyvol said:
alot of what you say is true, but it is of my opinion that the reason alot of the recruits now that are turning us down is because of the boyd drama.
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As I stated no recruits who committed to CLK has wavered only the recruits from the previous staff. You are entitled to your opinion as is everyone else. I for one have not heard any recruit say I was going to go to UT until the Boyd drama. If anything it may have helped us by sending a message to recruits that we are dedicated in bringing in kids who have a NFL caliber talent that needs to be groomed and no better place to get that grooming then UT.
 
#48
#48
cutnitclose said:
Why is it farfetched? Even Brown has said that he is worried about the QB situation.. I think the guy is just saying that he thinks the Boyd dramam has something to do with the loss of playes.. He isn't saying that he agrees with them leaving.. I just wminder how many will go to Clemson now.. It think the Boyd and Thigpen drama has a lot to do with our current situation..:yes:
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especially boyd, big recievers like to know who's throwing them the ball. the o-lineman like to know who there blocking for, and above all recruits like to win.
 
#49
#49
I think what most people are saying is you need to be a little patient & somewhat reasonable. If we are struggling to finish with a top 20 class in 2010, then would be the time to panic. This staff is loaded with PROVEN recruiters.

AND wait till after Wednesday before you start to evaluate the 2009 class.
 
#50
#50
GmanTN said:
As I stated no recruits who committed to CLK has wavered only the recruits from the previous staff. You are entitled to your opinion as is everyone else. I for one have not heard any recruit say I was going to go to UT until the Boyd drama. If anything it may have helped us by sending a message to recruits that we are dedicated in bringing in kids who have a NFL caliber talent that needs to be groomed and no better place to get that grooming then UT.
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look at our recruiting class. there is noway it helped.
 
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