Why exactly didn't Dooley work out?

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#126
VolsSportsFan said:
Respected or liked?

If you're referring to comments made by guys like Saban, they're friends; it's not like he was going to trash his friend in public. Way too many people bought into that.

The guy had one good season at La. Tech and an overall record of 17-20. Do the math.
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#127
#127
It was because he came into a terrible situation where almost any coach would have failed. The defense change was out of necessity because of personnel but his demise was almost specifically based upon a QB with mental intake problems.
 
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#130
knoxvols1 said:
It was because he came into a terrible situation where almost any coach would have failed. The defense change was out of necessity because of personnel but his demise was almost specifically based upon a QB with mental intake problems.
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If you are blaming the last couple of years on Tyler bray you are ignorant. He is the only reason we won the games we did. The amount of points we scored against Florida, sc,Georgia,and Missouri was enough to win with an average defense. Bash a guy who throws for 350 yds a game while we had the worst d in school history. Smdh.
 
#131
#131
Volfan2012 said:
I understand your a dimwit so why don't you go away.
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Oh, that's tough... namecalling on the internet. Good grief. You can't answer a simple argument yet I am the dimwit? You can't discern the clear difference between knowing talent and being able to sign it yet that makes me dumb?

He failed to evaluate the talent in Tennessee that is a known fact as several of the kids were receptive to Tennessee and he ignored them. Now go away.
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Who do you think you are? I'll go where I want and post where I want. Can't handle it then hit the ignore button and stop acting like an A$$.

The EXACT same thing was said about Fulmer. He often chose not to invest the time with instate schools and players because he thought his best hope of getting elite talent was to invest out of state. Instate TN recruiting has not been a great investment for UT historically. That's no excuse for missing good players but there is only so much time coaches can invest per NCAA rules. It is a strategic decision on where to spend that time.

Jones seems to believe in TN talent. We'll see how that works for him.

I never claimed Dooley was a perfect talent evaluator... I only stated information.
 
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#134
sjt18 said:
Do you really not get it? Knowing that a player is a great talent is a far cry from being able to convince him to sign with you. Being able to evaluate talent DOES NOT MEAN that he was able to land those players in sufficient numbers. Do you understand now?

Let me say this way. I have no doubt that you know what the prettiest girl in school looks like... that does not mean you can get her to marry you. The fact that she won't marry you has no bearing on your ability to recognize beauty.
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I like this. Good stuff.

P.S. It helps to get the girl if you have money.
 
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#135
he was a terrible game planner, could not make adjustments during the game when needed, made a poor decision in replacing Wilcox, let Bray get away with way too much, hired other terrible assistants like Chuck Smith, recruited very well is some areas but woefully in other areas like qb as we are seeing now. I don't think any current qb on the roster is the long term answer at this moment. He had very few redeemable qualities when he wasn't in front of a microphone.
 
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#136
knoxvols1 said:
It was because he came into a terrible situation where almost any coach would have failed. The defense change was out of necessity because of personnel but his demise was almost specifically based upon a QB with mental intake problems.
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And not having a good rushing attack either. Like when we played florida in '11 they pass interfered on every play, we'd get to the 20 or 15 yard line and stall out because we had no rushing attack, couldnt punch it in. Then are wonderful kicker would come out and shank kicks like my drunk cousin!
 
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#137
jarnol32 said:
If you are blaming the last couple of years on Tyler bray you are ignorant. He is the only reason we won the games we did. The amount of points we scored against Florida, sc,Georgia,and Missouri was enough to win with an average defense. Bash a guy who throws for 350 yds a game while we had the worst d in school history. Smdh.
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Yeah against the likes of UT Martin and lessor schools! Any QB with our recievers at that time could have performed like he did!
 
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#140
sjt18 said:
He walked into a terrible situation that even a much better coach would have struggled to make work.

He was not a great "coach" as in having the ability to directly take over a position or unit and make it great. He needed to be.

He lost the trust of his team... and then he lost hope himself. If reports are to be believed, he wanted out after UK. It is clear that he quit really doing the job no later than mid-season last season. I think he was resigned to his fate long before Hart was ready to fire him.


Basically, he took over a really bad situation and was completely overwhelmed and broken by it. In an ideal situation, he's probably not a great coach. In a bad situation, he was a complete and utter failure.
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Pretty fair assessment IMO.
 
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knoxvols1 said:
It was because he came into a terrible situation where almost any coach would have failed. The defense change was out of necessity because of personnel but his demise was almost specifically based upon a QB with mental intake problems.
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Eh, disagree. A good coach would have eventually succeeded, or at the very least shown signs of future success. Dooley, on the other hand, lost to Kentucky in year 2, got blown out by Vandy in year 3, and arguably got considerably worse the longer he was here.
 
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