Why is Antifa tolerated? Because they're left wing?

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Orange_Crush said:
I read the entire thing and understood your point. You clarified your point to be that it was whataboutism, while claiming it wasn't actually whataboutism.

Hint: "There's a problem on both sides" is the definition of whataboutism. You tried to hide the whataboutism behind something to the effect of "how could anyone try to rationalize the bad behavior on either side", but that too is whataboutism in a thread about antifa/left.

You can't hide whataboutism behind whataboutism and then treat us like supposed idiots for saying, "Hey, that's whataboutism hiding behind whataboutism."


For the record, unless it was in physical self defense, body slamming a journalist was plain wrong.
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Comes-from-the-same-place-ism isn't whataboutism...this is the thing that you and others in this thread are struggling with.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I'm not advancing the idea to go looking for trouble but I think one should be able to voice opposition to a political ideaology without the fear of being physically assaulted. If the police would do their dam job and keep these scum under control then this wouldn't be an issue.

My original point was if the scum thought there was a decent chance that they'd get their brains blown out from attacking an innocent bystander they might not be so quick to assault someone.
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Fair enough. Sometimes it's difficult to separate bravado from what a person should be able to do.
Ftr, i agree. You should be able to voice different political ideals without the fear of physical assault.
The reality is people who aren't looking for the fight should avoid the ANTIFA wackadoodles if possible.
 
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ajvol01 said:
I’ve seen it mentioned where that mixture will burn your skin.
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The chemicals in concrete will burn your skin. They can cause 1st,2cd, or 3rd degree burns. If you have an open cut or (get hit in the eyes/mouth) it can definitely cause you problems or even possibly kill you.



I would guess most were letting it harden before throwing it so it would be the damage of a brick and yet still say "it's just a milkshake."
 
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Bjorn_Yesterday said:
I'm getting "called out" because they didn't read and don't understand the point I was making, which was that violence has cropped up on both sides and neither side is willing to acknowledge what their extremists are doing.

You get to be lumped in with stupid people like WTN orange blood, Joevol33, and Orangeslice now...congrats.
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Bjorn_Yesterday said:
They're actually a teir lower than you. Here's how it works, ranked from least stupid (but still stupid) to most stupid:

1.) tumscalcium (wtf is he talking about, ever?)
2.) 1972 Grad, Carl Pickens (name call and disappear, add nothing to the discussion).
3.) WTN Orange blood, Orangeslice, joevol33 (miss the point when their party is involved)

I'm out. Gotta do grocery shopping. Will let the group digest this...
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Name calling behind a keyboard- you big tough guy! I bet you wear a mask to do it in public 😆

I'm not a republican- obviously you can't read, and you call us stupid. Smh
 
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Bjorn_Yesterday said:
They're actually a teir lower than you. Here's how it works, ranked from least stupid (but still stupid) to most stupid:

1.) tumscalcium (wtf is he talking about, ever?)
2.) 1972 Grad, Carl Pickens (name call and disappear, add nothing to the discussion).
3.) WTN Orange blood, Orangeslice, joevol33 (miss the point when their party is involved)

I'm out. Gotta do grocery shopping. Will let the group digest this...
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What is there to digest other than you being a total hack?
 
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Catbone said:
This guy is the definition of scum and a growing star for liberals. He succeeded in silencing many conservatives.

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Based and redpilled analysis from @Catbone. I'll also give it a shot at answering the question in OP.

One one hand, in the streets you have Antifa, modern-day Brown Shirts, who are enforcing with political violence the Neoliberal establishment's code of conduct. You have anarchists committing political violence, so that Google's HR policies become enshrined as the law of land in the United States.

On the other hand, you have a wing of Antifa "journalists", of which Carlos Maza is a perfect example. You have these digital publications like Vox Media, Huffington Post, BuzzFeed, the zombie Gawker/Gizmodo network of sites, Vice Media, Sleeping Giants, and others, which are not traditional journalists by any stretch. These are publications that advocate for very far left stances, which are completely unpopular with the majority of what these coastal elites term as "flyover country".None of these sites make any money. They exist to burn VC money. If you want to see a lesson in how not to perform financially as a business....look at Salon.com's share price as a publically traded company (they eventually got delisted from the OTC markers).

These sites use the the threat of negative PR and press coverage to pressure businesses to deny access to anyone who doesn't buy into whatever clown world narrative d'jour is being pushed. These sites exist to agree with and amplify one another. They use the implied threat of loss of income and employment as a way to keep the public in line. They have private email lists, and use Discord and Telegram to coordinate their messaging and campaigns. Think it's a coincidence that these sites all drop articles on the same topics, at the same time, with similar headlines and buzzwords? These sites are rooks and bishops in the political chessboard. Important pieces, but can be nullified by a thinker who doesn't operate as one might expect.

This is all being highly orchestrated for the purpose of sowing political division and furthering a political agenda. It's this subversive political agenda that allows for unchecked political violence to take place in places like Portland, OR, Berkeley, CA, and other places where you have very far left progressive politics running local governments.

Be extremely vigilant, no matter what side of of the political compass one may be on.
 
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UT_VOLS13 said:
EL thinks guns should be banned. I cannot wait for one of the Antifa fools to get dropped.
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Oh I can't either but you know how that will be played out in the media.

So funny reading back through the pages and seeing the usual suspects defending this thug behavior
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's terrible. They should go to jail. Any word on what led up to that? It seems unlikely the man just happened to be walking by and was randomly attacked like that.
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Why LG, just why? Why must you always add a qualifier to their disgusting behavior? It's a freaking old man against an effing mob so exactly what provocation could he provide? Certainly not a physical one. Oh, maybe old dude said something. Well it shouldn't matter if he cursed their mothers, he's an old man..it's wrong for them to do that.
 
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DynaLo said:
Why LG, just why? Why must you always add a qualifier to their disgusting behavior? It's a freaking old man against an effing mob so exactly what provocation could he provide? Certainly not a physical one. Oh, maybe old dude said something. Well it shouldn't matter if he cursed their mothers, he's an old man..it's wrong for them to do that.
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I don't know.

Do you?

I am concerned that there may be episodes where right wing antagonizers meet up with these protests. One films. One provokes, perhaps even physically. Then we are shown only partial video, to give the false impression that the defenseless and blameless man was simply attacked.

I'm not saying that happened here. I have no idea. But we've seen such tactics by the right before, see e.g, the doctored abortion videos. And isn't it odd that someone just happens to be there videoing and that video just happens to pop up on right wing websites.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I don't know.

Do you?

I am concerned that there may be episodes where right wing antagonizers meet up with these protests. One films. One provokes, perhaps even physically. Then we are shown only partial video, to give the false impression that the defenseless and blameless man was simply attacked.

I'm not saying that happened here. I have no idea. But we've seen such tactics by the right before, see e.g, the doctored abortion videos. And isn't it odd that someone just happens to be there videoing and that video just happens to pop up on right wing websites.
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So are you saying left-wing antagonizers would never do such a thing?
 
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lawgator1 said:
I don't know.

Do you?

I am concerned that there may be episodes where right wing antagonizers meet up with these protests. One films. One provokes, perhaps even physically. Then we are shown only partial video, to give the false impression that the defenseless and blameless man was simply attacked.

I'm not saying that happened here. I have no idea. But we've seen such tactics by the right before, see e.g, the doctored abortion videos. And isn't it odd that someone just happens to be there videoing and that video just happens to pop up on right wing websites.
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Does a counter protester not have the right to speak with out being attacked?
 
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