Why is Cheek so reviled/hated by fans?

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Vol2424 said:
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Someone should forward this to Haslam.....along with a petition.
 
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GLDunlap said:
Speechless!! First time I've seen that. I thought everyone was making it up. He tried to act like he wasn't going to eat it but he did. How embarrassing and that's our President. On a side note I also get the feeling Cheeks and Hart dress up in women's clothing in their down time.

Blackburn for AD anyone?
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I don't think he ate them. After studying this video, it seems he just smeared them on his front teeth. Maybe he thinks the girls like that?
 
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Jimmy cheek and Susan Martin are hurting the Tennessee football program. They have there own personal agenda. Using the football program like a atm and setting requirements harder for student athletes harder than Alabama and Florida and others. They don't care if the football program wins 5 games a year.
 
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How dare a group of Academic Administrators try to make an Academic Institution more respectable. How. Dare. They. Don't they know the sole purpose of the University of Tennessee's existence is to play football?

Just because things are a little more difficult for UT athletics (namely football) now than they were 10-15 years ago doesn't mean it's harder at UT than anywhere else. I'm sure that Cheek/Martin will see the purpose (also the $$$) reasons to lessen their leash.

This happened at ND when Kelly took over. ND players still don't have their own dorms but when Kelly took over the players didn't even have a practice table. Basically, the players would have to walk across campus to eat dinner after practice instead of being able to eat at a table at their practice facility.

And UT fans are complaining that Cheek took away a total gimme degree saying this will destroy us. You think there are gimme degrees for most ACC/B1G/PAC-12 schools? Sure, there are outliers in each conference but nobody is convincing me UT is even in the same ballpark, academically speaking for athletes to qualify, that Michigan/ND/OSU/Texas/Vandy/Washington/UCLA have. UTK isn't even as rigid as UGA/UF are. UTK qualified a player that couldn't qualify at UF just last year.

With all that said, I have an honest question for everyone:


  • How many of you complaining about the academics at UTK were actually students at UTK? How many of you complaining hold a college degree?
 
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Because Skeeter is one of our top-3 posters, Skeeter works in the AD, and Skeeter said that Jimmy Cheek is the # 1 problem.


FIRE Jimmy Booger Eating Cheek!!!
 
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UTProf said:
I don't have a high opinion of Cheek because of the Bruce Pearl debacle that mostly stems from his utter cluelessness that he'd be backtracking soon (he should've had enough brain cells to see that coming) so he's turned into a bumbling fool in my eyes even though I never wanted to see Pearl go and feel that Pearl was on the receiving end of being too big for his britches by the NCAA -- what was Bruce thinking, thinking he could coach perennial whipping boy UT to greatness and stepping on Calipari's gangrenous but winning toes? Or at least that's how I read the NCAA's disproportionate response especially in light of how they handled the Newton case and exposed them for the hypocrites they were even further (along with soo many other cases).

But the Pearl debacle, stripped Cheek of any cred both within and without the AD imo. He's the last guy anyone actually puts faith in and I have a strong feeling he has made few sports based decisions since then other than singing off on what coaches and big money tell him too (jmo).

So since he's so reviled around here, to the point of obsession (he's like Darth Vader to our Rebel Alliance) -- big, scary, but ultimately breathes through a respirator just to stay alive and does a bigger badder guy's bidding. Yet he makes for a good bad guy for us to rally around in his own right.

What I don't understand is why? What is it that he's done to earn the constant blame/hate he receives? Is it just because he's the last guy standing since Hammy is no longer here? What is it?

Yes the booger thing was weird and embarrassing but it's also brand new.

To me Cheek is just a neutered yes-man.

All opinions welcome.
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the guy just sucks enough said.
 
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Some of you have posted some interesting theories/reasons so thank you up front for that.

However, I do think some of the academic/admissions hooha is more a micro-kernel of truth mixed in with a bit of conspiracy theory than reality. As someone pointed out, standards may have been raised but that doesn't mean UT's at a disadvantage or that standards haven't been raised across the board by every university not just UT.

As to certain academic majors being forbidden, can someone link to an article or evidence that players are disallowed specific college majors? That doesn't sound legal to me. Any college degree offered would be open to all (minus those selective programs that require they're own admissions which every student has to go through) otherwise it would be discrimination. A school has no right to tell a student what he or she may major in not even when that student is an athlete. They may have a right to not count excessive fluff courses like walking towards the total hours/GPA requirement although I'm not positive.

My guess is that UT sports *may* be prohibiting the practice of not declaring a major in order to evade the core requirements for every major (things like English 101 etc). Staying undeclared and evading core requirements allows students to take whatever they want from tons of 101 courses and lower level courses to things like bowling and other PE credits that you get credit for to fulfill the number of hours needed. IOW, the truth may be that if you're a player then you're not allowed to simply take bowling, badminton, swimming, walking, weightlifting etc. in order to fulfill your hours and stay eligible -- you must take some core requirements toward a degree.

A phys ed. degree is different and isn't simply a matter of taking PE courses. It's a legit degree despite how dumb some of our PE teachers might've been. Even PE teachers have to take English 101-102, 2 courses of History, Biology 101-102 and many other requirements that have nothing to do with one's major and working towards a PE degree isn't the same as loading up on courses like walking, bowling, etc. in order to avoid academic work. Virtually all regular students who have yet to declare a major are take those courses to get them out the way before they declare.

Does anyone have links/proof of the accusations that certain majors are off limits?

Thanks again.
 
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He just has the kind of face that seems to say he is up to something that is no good. I didn't like the fact they were standing by Bruce Pearl and then they were not. They blamed it on the fact he had made contact with a recruit illegally which turned out to be untrue. They did it so the NCAA would go easy on them. Second reason he came from Florida a Gator.
 
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DC Vol said:
  • How many of you complaining about the academics at UTK were actually students at UTK? How many of you complaining hold a college degree?
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I have a degree from UTK in Chemical Engineering and I think Cheek's misguided effort to make UTK at "top 25 research institution" has almost killed athletics and has at the same time hurt academics. Not everyone who dislikes Dr. Cheek is some two toothed redneck from Bucksnort.
 
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UTProf said:
Does anyone have links/proof of the accusations that certain majors are off limits?

Thanks again.
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It isn't that athletes are prevented from choosing among the available degree offerings. The problem is several degree programs once favored by athletes and available at other SEC schools have been eliminated at UTK in the past 10 years. Want to be a phys ed. teacher? There is no program for that at UTK. Want to major in Criminal Science? There is no program for that, either.
 
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Why was our defensive back Lanier ruled ineligible? I honestly don't know if that was Cheek's problem. But he had 34 years at Florida....why do we have a president who had 34 years at Florida? His dying words will be 'Go Gayta!' And then there is the little matter of "ate a booger in front of a frickin' camera". Plus, The Tennessean newspaper stated that he scared the crap out of Charlie Strong.

Jimmy Butt CHeek has gots to go.....in 2013!


And yes, we here in the hay fields of middle Tennessee...prefer a top-25 football team to a top-25 academic institution.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Everyone who talks about how we're at a competitive disadvantage due to academics seems to have forgotten that Dante Phillips had no trouble getting into UT after UF wouldn't admit him.

I think there are probably some issues with the way UT handles transfer credits from junior colleges that could be addressed, but talking about how we can't win because Cheek has made it too hard to get players admitted is just dumb.
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The way I understand it, it is not an issue of getting in but staying in. Some of the easier programs like Urban Studies have been removed from the curriculum.
 
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Poppa T said:
Hate is a pretty strong word.

His handling of some of the items mentioned above, have left me with the impression that his leadership skills are lacking. He also does not seem to be able to deal with delicate issues very effectively, especially those that will most likely end up in the public eye.

My perception is ... he exhibits an air of an academic snobbery. I understand that he is obsessed with the AAU. Association of American Universities
"Membership in AAU is by invitation ..." Vandy, Missouri and Florida are the only SEC schools that are part of this "fraternity". This obsession is what I think was driving the efforts to consolidate the political/power structure toward the Academic side, to the detriment of the UTAD (not just Football).

Until very recently, he appears to have underestimated the significance that a healthy and winning Athletic Dept has on the financial well being of the overall University.

His hiring has made we wonder if the BOT is up to the task.
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Texas A&M is also in it


And it's pretty much a national obsession with it at the university-level; look at members list


Association of American Universities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Besides, sorry but this idea/can't be more much than a myth...UT's med school being all the way across the state alone would make any attempts at membership a mess...and if he's smart enough to be a chancellor at a university, then he's probably quite well aware of that.
 
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volstuckinNC said:
It isn't that athletes are prevented from choosing among the available degree offerings. The problem is several degree programs once favored by athletes and available at other SEC schools have been eliminated at UTK in the past 10 years. Want to be a phys ed. teacher? There is no program for that at UTK. Want to major in Criminal Science? There is no program for that, either.
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Actually both are still available. Phys. Ed is in the College of Education, Health, and Human Sciences and has basically been relabeled per state rules. What you do is minor in education (be it elementary/middle/high school) and major in a subject. UT advises and uses specialized plans for those who want to teach a specific subject that will meet state licensure req's as far as a degree goes but all standard state teacher licensure for a subject whether it's PE or pre-calc requires an education minor. Kinesiology, phys ed, and sports management are all courses one can take that will get you there but UT's teacher education program is adviser dependent (more than other majors) because subjects from many depts. meet the licensure requirements.

The STATE of Tennessee however suggests anyone wanting to teach PE have more than one subject licensure area. This set-up isn't new despite the College of Education merging with Health and Human Sciences.

But I do agree that they could make finding your way through the mess a heckuva lot easier. I have a lot of beefs with the College of Education AND the state's worship of them (and I don't mean just UT's - all of them).

Also, UT's College of Education turns far too many people down and I don't mean just athletes. They have a whole interview process and tell a lot of students nope. I had one student who was one of the brightest I'd ever taught who they refused admission because she didn't fit in. It's the only College that has such a stick up it's rear end and ignores grades to boot. I've also taught morons who had no problem getting in. I know they're worried about abusers and such BUT they do it on the whim of the interviewer. It's the only college within the University that operates this way.

While there is no criminal science major, you can get a Sociology degree with a concentration in criminal justice (a lot of pre-law students do this). It's tougher than your Sally Struthers style become-a-beat-cop/get-a-certificate-you-don't-actually-need-to-be-a-cop degree but this set-up has been around for ages at UT.

What stops many would be sociology majors is that both theory and stats classes are required and always have been.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Why was our defensive back Lanier ruled ineligible? I honestly don't know if that was Cheek's problem.
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Lanier didn't academically qualify at Auburn when he originally signed with them in 2009. That's why he went to JUCO. Not all credits transfer from JUCO. Eastern Miss. Community College only has MSU, Southern Miss, and Ole Miss (a total of 1 course) on their articulation agreement (fancy way of saying credits transfer) with few courses offered for agreed transfer. They had ASU for 1 course but it was revoked.

Contrast that to Walter's State which works hard to make sure more non-remedial courses will transfer.

It sounds as though it's a really lousy community college more interested in taking kids' money than anything else. When you can't even get credit at a state school and only a few in-state courses qualify there's something very wrong.
 
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