Why is Trump destroying NATO ?

Why is Trump destroying NATO?

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zeppelin128 said:
The stock market broke every record under Obama. Try to keep up.
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Admit you don’t have a clue? Less than 10% of the entire workforce is in a union and raising the minimum wage beyond what the market sets actually depresses hiring. List the liberal policies that increase hiring. I will wait
 
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zeppelin128 said:
The stock market broke every record under Obama. Try to keep up.
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Federal Reserve and near zero interest rates. The stock market increases over time are based primarily on 2 things. Corporate profits and inflation. When interest rates are kept near zero, and there is no wage inflation , corporate profits set record highs.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
This isn't the case. Republican states heavily dependent on welfare keep voting for Republicans, who want to take that away.

Blue states carrying red states financing are giving them no votes or power.
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Got anything reliable to back that up? Is it really welfare or are you talking about government payments of all kinds? Every time I look up that kind of claim there's simply a table showing total federal spending and state of destination with no clear explanation about whether they are welfare payments, SS payments, salaries to government workers, payment to contractors and other suppliers, distribution to states, or just an aggregate.
 
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Come on Zeppelin, I can give you several liberal policies that depress hiring and several conservative policies that have led to increased industry. Heck, just name one I will take one
 
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zeppelin128 said:
The stock market broke every record under Obama. Try to keep up.
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When you hit bottom, everything looks up from there. Now go back and ask congress (the whole mess - both parties) why it all hit bottom - just don't expect an honest answer.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Obama recovered from a recession. Trump gets to feed off that no recession Obama.
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Obama did squat other than increase national debt with Keynesian economics.

Used to hear of Krugman. Wonder why he does not show his shmutt face anymore?
 
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The stock market level over time is primarily determined by 2 things. Corporate profits and inflation. When corporations can get cheap money, they make bigger profits. When corporations can keep labor costs down, by having low wage inflation , they make more money. The more profitable they are, the higher their stock becomes. Pretty simple. Cheap borrowing cost plus cheap labor cost equals record profits, equals people wanting to invest, equals higher stock price.
 
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golfballs said:
Oh

NYT Admits "Trump Got From NATO Everything Obama Ever Asked For" | Zero Hedge
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Even more

NATO was a tale of two Trumps, diplomats and foreign leaders say - CNNPolitics

Two Donald Trumps showed up at NATO.

One was gratingly aggressive, inaccurate and insulting -- and with November midterms looming, seemingly intended as an appeal to the President's political base.

The other, according to a head of state and several diplomats who spoke to CNN, was slightly more restrained behind closed doors, intent on getting alliance members to increase their defense budgets, an issue Trump has hammered at since his presidential campaign.

Even presented with a slightly more reasonable private Trump persona, NATO sources say the President's demeaning comments -- particularly about Germany -- left members of the alliance angry. And they remain anxious that Trump's blustering will create an unfavorable contrast between the summit in Brussels, Belgium, and the US President's upcoming meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki.
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tennvols77 said:
This is so much like any situation where you are wealthy. I was fortunate, although through alot of hard work and sacrifice, to be quite wealthy at a relatively young age. Fortunately for me, I have a very close group of friends, but, sh** tons of acquaintances.

My close friends never, never came to me for anything. The other's well, it was less than being forward with their requests. They never got anything. For my close friends, I paid off my their mortgages and car notes, everyone of them. Their gratitude can't be overstated. I will be paying for everyone of their child's college and will also provide living expenses so that they do not have to work like I did in school or grad school.

Now, my democratic friends who have been successful, they won't even pay for their own children's college, rather, allowing them to take scholarships to pay for their school.

Point is, if it's yours, you get to decide what to do with it right, wrong, or indifferent. I choose where my help goes, not the person needing help determining it. These countries have taken advantage of our overly nice and sincere gestures, and it needs to stop.

We, no matter how much anyone likes or dislikes it, we are the biggest, baddest, and most giving country on the planet, and if anyone wants to look the gift horse in the mouth and complain, no problem, go on your own and find ways to do what you want without our help or money.
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I applaud your generosity--But, what an odd post... I don't have a clue how this relates to NATO --your largesse to your "close friends" vs. a 70 year old military alliance among democratic nations---but whatever ... I suppose all good deeds should be broadcast on a message board to illustrate a clumsy analogy instead of remaining a private affair between "close friends." But, your critical tone towards the aforementioned "democratic friends" is really puzzling. I thought traditional "conservative values" espouse hard work and sacrifice--which you referenced in your own climb up the economic ladder. Not everyone has a such a self- congratulatory patron such as yourself... Always remember: BOOTSTRAPS!... Right?--you don't want those kids becoming dependent on tennvols77 handouts... I fear you might be coddling this young and impressionable next generation of future job creators.
 
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AirVol said:
Obama gets credit for all the jobs and such for the last year and a half?

Oh ok. Keep drinking that Kenyan Koolaid.
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To be fair Obama screwed up the economy to the point that all trump had to do was undo a few things.....so yes Obama being bad at the job did set Trump up for success
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
To be fair Obama screwed up the economy to the point that all trump had to do was undo a few things.....so yes Obama being bad at the job did set Trump up for success
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For LG amusement:

Watched "Six Million Dollar Man" as a kid. Obama is the "Ten Trillion Dollar Man", but was still limp wristed.
 
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U.S. Officials Scrambled Behind the Scenes to Shield NATO Deal From Trump
"The rushed machinations to get the policy done, as demanded by John R. Bolton, the national security adviser, have not been previously reported. Described by European diplomats and American officials, the efforts are a sign of the lengths to which the president’s top advisers will go to protect a key and longstanding international alliance from Mr. Trump’s unpredictable antipathy." ...
"The president’s national security team did a good job of salvaging a minimally successful outcome to the NATO summit,” said James G. Stavridis, a retired four-star admiral who also once served as the supreme allied commander for Europe. But, he added, “it is unfortunate that the president’s apparent personal animus continues to create friction in an alliance that has stood the test of time.”


U.S. Officials Scrambled Behind the Scenes to Shield NATO Deal From Trump
 
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