Why isn't everyone a Democrat?

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emainvol said:
Then why didn't they drop the Rev. Wright thing instead of keeping it on for 3 weeks, nonstop?
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frankly because the Hillary shills kept it going as hard as they possibly could and Wright was a very willing participant.
 
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615 Vol said:
They didn't dig too deep in the Cheney shooting a man in the face after drinking story. Do you think they would have been easier on Al Gore if he did that as VP? Why is it that when a republican is involved in the story in a negative light then many republicans seem to think it shouldn't be reported. As soon as it is reported then it's only because the media is liberal, I agree there is a bias, I am not disputing that, only the severity of it. It certainly is not as blatant as talk radio.
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I actually think between the more liberal slanted networks (cable and network) and Fox and talk radio everything balances out. The only thing I would point out is that young people (college age) do not listen to much in the way of talk radio.
 
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KB5252 said:
I actually think between the more liberal slanted networks (cable and network) and Fox and talk radio everything balances out. The only thing I would point out is that young people (college age) do not listen to much in the way of talk radio.
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The libs need to tap into XBOX and PS3 to spread their message. :)
 
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615 Vol said:
The libs need to tap into XBOX and PS3 to spread their message. :)
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No if anything the repubs need to do that. It won't matter most kids college age look at the world and don't yet have a real grasp on the way the world works. Unless they have studied politics, world history, economics and such.
 
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college kids get plenty of liberal indoctrination on campus. even if they don't study politics or government. the problem with a media bias and talk radio is, media and new should be neutral, the facts should be reported without any slant. talk radio is the opinion of the host, whether it be right or left. i think that's the issue people have the mainstream.
 
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joevol320 said:
college kids get plenty of liberal indoctrination on campus. even if they don't study politics or government. the problem with a media bias and talk radio is, media and new should be neutral, the facts should be reported without any slant. talk radio is the opinion of the host, whether it be right or left. i think that's the issue people have the mainstream.
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dude, this is a very tired debate and your not making headway. pick another fight on another topic another day. just not helping the conservative cause on this one.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
dude, this is a very tired debate and your not making headway. pick another fight on another topic another day. just not helping the conservative cause on this one.
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i don't expect to make any headway. do we really make any headway with any debates on these forums? has anyone debated on a forum and decided that he was wrong and decided to change his thought or politics?
 
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joevol320 said:
i don't expect to make any headway. do we really make any headway with any debates on these forums? has anyone debated on a forum and decided that he was wrong and decided to change his thought or politics?
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I think it would be safe to say yes.
 
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joevol320 said:
i don't expect to make any headway. do we really make any headway with any debates on these forums? has anyone debated on a forum and decided that he was wrong and decided to change his thought or politics?
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headway happens because there are some very bright and well reasoned people on this board.

On this debate about the media biases, not so much.
 
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joevol320 said:
i don't expect to make any headway. do we really make any headway with any debates on these forums? has anyone debated on a forum and decided that he was wrong and decided to change his thought or politics?
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I have been challenged on a few of my stances and actually had to rethink my position. I may have not changed my entire philosophy but many of the discussions here have lead me to think deeper and pull back different layers. In the end if we do not change our positions now and then we are not thinking.
 
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I'm not a democrat for a variety of reasons. One is the fact that I consider myself and individual and not part of some larger collective.
 
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KB5252 said:
I have been challenged on a few of my stances and actually had to rethink my position. I may have not changed my entire philosophy but many of the discussions here have lead me to think deeper and pull back different layers. In the end if we do not change our positions now and then we are not thinking.
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I agree, I can't figure out if Global Warming is real or not anymore. I also have been able to understand where people are coming from and why they think the way they do even if it's different than me. I am more open minded since discussing issues on here.
 
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MG1968 said:
I'm not a democrat for a variety of reasons. One is the fact that I consider myself and individual and not part of some larger collective.
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did you ever play a team sport?

do you like football?
 
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TennNC said:
did you ever play a team sport?

do you like football?
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yes and yes. I'm also a veteran.

so? it's an apples to oranges comparison.

playing a sport, which is a voluntary activity, is quite a bit different than living in a collective society. Also, in sports, you are encouraged to excel individually. In a collective society, those who excel don't reap any greater benefit than those who chose not to excel.
 
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MG1968 said:
yes and yes. I'm also a veteran.

so? it's an apples to oranges comparison.

playing a sport, which is a voluntary activity, is quite a bit different than living in a collective society. Also, in sports, you are encouraged to excel individually. In a collective society, those who excel don't reap any greater benefit than those who chose not to excel.
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Here's what you posted:

"I consider myself and individual and not part of some larger collective."

Do you think your success is related in any way to what anyone else does at all? You're living in a vaccuum? You've got your own economy that's completely self-sufficient?
 
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my success is directly proportional to the energy I put into making myself successful. If I fail, it is my fault for making the wrong or bad choices.
 
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TennNC said:
Do you think your success is related in any way to what anyone else does at all?
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Surely if you're going to attribute MG's success to others, you'll want to attribute is failures to others as well. Once we've made that connection, we can all pool our resources and mitigate all the highs and lows (success or failure), since they're attributable to everyone else anyway.

I like where you're headed with that one.
 
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297 posts in less than a day... what's the record for a 24 hour period (That doesnt include UT game threads)? Way too many posts for me to read... so I'll leave this topic to the pros.:hi:
 
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MG1968 said:
sounds a lot like Communism to me. then again, TennNC is voting for Obama, so if the shoe fits.
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Yes. It's much easier to debate "all or nothing." B/c if you're not a dyed in the wool conservative, well, you must be a Communist.

Don't you think maybe it's just possible that there's some middle ground between being absolutely self-sufficient and being totally reliant?

Or maybe you in fact do live in a vacuum. You owe nothing to nobody. Everything you do is only b/c you've done it yourself. Nobody helped you along the way at all. And I would assume that you've helped nobody else either. You were self-sufficient from birth. You don't need anyone else doing anything at all to get what you're getting, or where you want to go. You can create money. You produce everything you use.

Is that right?
 
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your point about the middle ground was completely betrayed by your extreme set of questions.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Surely if you're going to attribute MG's success to others
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stop the post right there.

attribute: to explain by indicating a cause

relate: to have relationship or connection

please use my words. not your hang-ups. call me out when I do the same to you.
 
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