Why no one should worry about LSU

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The only thing that bothers me is the composition of the Committee.

Boo Corrigan (chair) NC State athletic directorACC
Mitch Barnhart Kentucky athletic director
Tom Burman Wyoming athletic director
Rick George Colorado athletic director
Chet Gladchuk Navy athletic director
Jim Grobe Former coach, Wake Forest
Warde Manuel, Michigan athletic director
Will Shields Former Nebraska offensive guard
R. C. Slocum Former Texas A&M coach and interim athletic director Big 12/Pac-12
Gene Taylor Kansas State athletic director
Joe Taylor Former Virginia Union head coach and current athletic director
John Urschel Former Penn State offensive tackle
Kelly Whiteside Former college football reporter for Newsday, Sports Illustrated, and USA Today

This is and should be an Eye Opener. Michigan AD is concerning. B10 bias?
 
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volfan_28 said:
This is the correct way to think about this stuff. All the arguments claiming "facts" about how things will play out are nothing more than guesses. We don't know what the committee will do, but I do think they've given us a hint by having LSU (2-losses) ranked ahead of USC (1-loss) right now. It shows they they place a premium on strength of schedule. Because of this, I see no way that the loser of OSU/Michigan makes it in without some obvious bias from the committee. So in my mind, the loser of that game is out. I refuse to let conspiracy theories influence my expectations.

My biggest question is will they respect strength of schedule more than a conference championship from a weaker conference? The ACC is just too weak, IMO, but the PAC 12 (USC) makes me nervous. I wouldn't be shocked to see this thing finish 1. UGA 2. OSU/Mich 3. TCU 4. Tennessee but I also wouldn't be surprised if USC slides into the 4th spot with a conference championship... but again, if the committee would put USC ahead of us, why would they not already be ahead of LSU?
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USC is not ahead of LSU because they haven’t played anyone yet. That will change over the next month if they run the table by beating 3 straight ranked opponents culminating in capturing the Pac-12 championship and finishing as a 1 loss conference champion.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
The only thing that bothers me is the composition of the Committee.

Boo Corrigan (chair) NC State athletic directorACC
Mitch Barnhart Kentucky athletic director
Tom Burman Wyoming athletic director
Rick George Colorado athletic director
Chet Gladchuk Navy athletic director
Jim Grobe Former coach, Wake Forest
Warde Manuel, Michigan athletic director
Will Shields Former Nebraska offensive guard
R. C. Slocum Former Texas A&M coach and interim athletic director Big 12/Pac-12
Gene Taylor Kansas State athletic director
Joe Taylor Former Virginia Union head coach and current athletic director
John Urschel Former Penn State offensive tackle
Kelly Whiteside Former college football reporter for Newsday, Sports Illustrated, and USA Today

This is and should be an Eye Opener. Michigan AD is concerning. B10 bias?[/QUOTE

Hasn't been a problem in the past getting 2 SEC team in.
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Michigan AD can't vote for Michigan per voting rules.
 
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I am kinda torn on LSU vs Georgia and I'll explain why. Number 1 Georgia is in the playoffs, no doubt imo, even if they lose in Atlanta. Number 2 I see no possible way LSU jumps Tennessee after we thumped them in death valley. SEC championship or not. When comparing resumes Tennessee has 2 top 10 wins right now with LSU and Bama. If LSU loses that win isn't as impressive and will no longer be a top 10 win after Atlanta and a feather in our cap. If they beat Georgia, Tennessee beat the brakes off the SEC champs at their house and our loss is still to a top 5 team. If you assume, as I do, Georgia is in regardless and a 2 loss LSU can't jump Tennessee, our resume would be better if LSU wins. Alot of ifs and buts. Great to be in this position period.
 
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OffTackleVol said:
If LSU somehow upsets Georgia, there will be 3 SEC teams in the CFP.
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LSU won’t get in even with a win against Georgia IMO. It’s hard to erase that 40-13 mid season ass whipping they took at home. As others have pointed out, a two loss Big 10 champion (Penn State) was left out largely because one of those losses was a 30 point ass whipping to Michigan. The committee actually selected Ohio State - a team that’s only loss was to Penn State - over Penn State because in the end they wanted the best 4 teams.

That’s why I think LSU is out of luck regardless of the SECCG and the same goes for Clemson IMO. A one loss Tennessee or a one loss Michigan (if the game is close) will appeal more to the committee. Clemson and North Carolina are playing for second place in the ACC - ND is the ACC champ.
 
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iWishItWasTheWeekend said:
USC is not ahead of LSU because they haven’t played anyone yet. That will change over the next month if they run the table by beating 3 straight ranked opponents culminating in capturing the Pac-12 championship and finishing as a 1 loss conference champion.
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There is no opponent on USC's remaining schedule that wins over would trump LSU beating the #1 team in Georgia.....

On top of it, LSU's 3 best wins would be Ole Miss (AP #7 pre CFP rankings) Bama (#7 CFP) and Georgia (#1 CFP) vs USC's wins over UCLA (#16 CFP) Notre Dame (#18 CFP) and Oregon/Utah (Likely #10 CFP).....


If you think those trio of wins are comparable to each other, I don't know what to tell you.
 
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Sarms58 said:
LSU won’t get in even with a win against Georgia IMO. It’s hard to erase that 40-13 mid season ass whipping they took at home. As others have pointed out, a two loss Big 10 champion (Penn State) was left out largely because one of those losses was a 30 point ass whipping to Michigan. The committee actually selected Ohio State - a team that’s only loss was to Penn State - over Penn State because in the end they wanted the best 4 teams.

That’s why I think LSU is out of luck regardless of the SECCG and the same goes for Clemson IMO. A one loss Tennessee or a one loss Michigan (if the game is close) will appeal more to the committee. Clemson and North Carolina are playing for second place in the ACC - ND is the ACC champ.
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Quit using the Penn State comparison. PSU didn't have enough Quality of Wins to get over their 2 losses. That is not the case with LSU....


One schedule below is not like the other in terms of quality of wins or opponents' strength.

2022 LSU Schedule:
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2016 PSU Schedule:
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JMSqb11 said:
There is no opponent on USC's remaining schedule that wins over would trump LSU beating the #1 team in Georgia.....

On top of it, LSU's 3 best wins would be Ole Miss (AP #7 pre CFP rankings) Bama (#7 CFP) and Georgia (#1 CFP) vs USC's wins over UCLA (#16 CFP) Notre Dame (#18 CFP) and Oregon/Utah (Likely #10 CFP).....


If you think those trio of wins are comparable to each other, I don't know what to tell you.
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If you want to bet me $100 that Tennessee misses the playoffs in the event that Tennessee, USC, and TCU win out, I will do that. I’m a new member here so you can find someone you trust that we can each PayPal/Venmo $100 to. If all three aforementioned teams win out and Tennessee makes the playoff, you get the $100. If they get left out, I get the $100. In the likely situation that one of those teams lose (I’m guessing USC falls at some point and Tennessee does get in), we both get our money back.
 
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iWishItWasTheWeekend said:
If you want to bet me $100 that Tennessee misses the playoffs in the event that Tennessee, USC, and TCU win out, I will do that. I’m a new member here so you can find someone you trust that we can each PayPal/Venmo $100 to. If all three aforementioned teams win out and Tennessee makes the playoff, you get the $100. If they get left out, I get the $100. In the likely situation that one of those teams lose (I’m guessing USC falls at some point and Tennessee does get in), we both get our money back.
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Tennessee is a lock for the playoff with an 11-1 record. Tennessee has been a lock for the playoff post Bama win where an 11-1 record was the floor for finishing the regular season.

Tennessee is going to the playoff. I've been very clear on this. USC has zero shot at the playoff without getting help from LSU dropping a game and TCU dropping a game.

Simple stuff. Not rocket science.
 
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I think as long as we handle our business and get the style points, we're in. Everyone else is playing for the fourth spot. If we had dropped this week then yeah I would be questioning if we get in, but with keeping us at 5, I think the committee sees us as one of the four best and is just waiting for someone to lose so they can move us up. I think once we get in the top four, we ain't leaving it.
 
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All-SEC playoff. Alabama, Georgia, LSU and Tennessee. Mathematically? Probably still possible. Everyone wins out, LSU beats Georgia in Atlanta. Meanwhile:

Michigan loses to Illinois and Ohio State (10-2)
Ohio State loses to Maryland and Purdue/Illinois in Big 10 championship (11-2)
TCU loses to Baylor and Kansas State in Big 12 championship (10-2)
Utah loses to Oregon (9-3)
Oregon beats Utah, loses to Oregon State, plays in PAC12 championship against USC due to head to head with Utah and wins (10-3)
Southern Cal beats UCLA, loses to Notre Dame, then loses to Utah in PAC12 championship (10-3)
Clemson loses to Beamerball and to UNC in ACC championship (10-3)
UNC loses to NC State, beats Clemson in ACC championship (11-2)
Penn State loses to Michigan State (9-3)

I feel like even then it still wouldn't be allowed to happen. But they'd just have to come out and admit it's a popularity contest when it comes right down to it.

Edit: and in case there's any doubt, no I don't think in a million years that even a quarter of that's going to happen.
 
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ArmchairQB said:
All-SEC playoff. Alabama, Georgia, LSU and Tennessee. Mathematically? Probably still possible. Everyone wins out, LSU beats Georgia in Atlanta. Meanwhile:

Michigan loses to Illinois and Ohio State (10-2)
Ohio State loses to Maryland and Purdue/Illinois in Big 10 championship (11-2)
TCU loses to Baylor and Kansas State in Big 12 championship (10-2)
Utah loses to Oregon (9-3)
Oregon beats Utah, loses to Oregon State, plays in PAC12 championship against USC due to head to head with Utah and wins (10-3)
Southern Cal beats UCLA, loses to Notre Dame, then loses to Utah in PAC12 championship (10-3)
Clemson loses to Beamerball and to UNC in ACC championship (10-3)
UNC loses to NC State, beats Clemson in ACC championship (11-2)
Penn State loses to Michigan State (9-3)

I feel like even then it still wouldn't be allowed to happen. But they'd just have to come out and admit it's a popularity contest when it comes right down to it.
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Lots of scenarios that maybe HALF could/will happen. I think all UT needs do is win out! SC will be all in this week at home; Senior day and all, so Tennessee needs to be ready. Just take care of the ball, cuz that's the ONLY way Sc can win any game. Special teams & Turnovers. Tennessee hasn't been turning it over and special teams playing above average. GO VOLS!!! (hard to imagine Tennessee with a shot at the Championship starting this season!) Here we are!! Go Big Orange!!
 
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JohnWardForever said:
Lots of scenarios that maybe HALF could/will happen. I think all UT needs do is win out! SC will be all in this week at home; Senior day and all, so Tennessee needs to be ready. Just take care of the ball, cuz that's the ONLY way Sc can win any game. Special teams & Turnovers. Tennessee hasn't been turning it over and special teams playing above average. GO VOLS!!! (hard to imagine Tennessee with a shot at the Championship starting this season!) Here we are!! Go Big Orange!!
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Ha yeah, you caught me before I edited. No way on earth most of that happens. I just want to see the selection committee have a collective hemorrhage trying to justify their choices.
 
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DawgBite said:
Georgia is in the playoffs win or lose against LSU (just fact). Does anyone really believe LSU can beat UGA in Atlanta anyway?

Tennessee man must root for the Dawgs if they want in... Vols NEED a Georgia win!

Also, a 1-loss Tennessee team has a MUCH better resume than a 1-loss Big Ten team IMO.
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‘Tennessee man’ lololololllol hahahaha… Idiot
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Tennessee is a lock for the playoff with an 11-1 record. Tennessee has been a lock for the playoff post Bama win where an 11-1 record was the floor for finishing the regular season.

Tennessee is going to the playoff. I've been very clear on this. USC has zero shot at the playoff without getting help from LSU dropping a game and TCU dropping a game.

Simple stuff. Not rocket science.
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Take his bet. You’re both wrong.
 
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