Why QB play will be good.

[sjt18]

You mentioned the O&W game. Dobbs virtually won the start right then and there for all eyes to see. So I'm going to say that everyone who isn't virtually blind knows who will start.

Dobbs had a good day running against the 2's. He didn't have a better day than Worley running against the 1's.

Indeed, anyone who isn't blind knows who the starter is at this point. Maybe Dobbs pulls it off and passes Worley in August. But that is very, very unlikely. Worley is now and has been the starter.

 

[lexkyvol]

starting to sound like the ferguson debate all over again........popcorn anyone?

 

[WilliamDuVOL]

Because its VN and Summer..lol fla wins 9 games min this year n everyone will be saying man they were more talented than us and that's why we lost..

Last yr was the worst I've seen fla play in 20 yrs n Peterman blew it..fla will not be that bad again I promise

fyp

Granted the coaches put him in, Jones didn't throw those interceptions or make those turnovers.

 

[barknoxbrawler]

I saw about zero analysts pick Mizzou to win east last year.

About zero? Or zero? There is a huge difference............












Sarcasm

 

[Orange_Crush]

Pound them, I'm on mobile and my screen is busted up bad .

Was your screen 'pinned'?


But alas, we'll do to UF what was done to your screen.

 

[ntxVOL]

fyp

Granted the coaches put him in, Jones didn't throw those interceptions or make those turnovers.

I think you are wrong.

Coaches put him in and it was obvious to me and everyone else that he was not ready. This was a failure by the coaching staff and the most egregious mistake they made last season IMO.

 

[KBVol]

I think you are wrong.

Coaches put him in and it was obvious to me and everyone else that he was not ready. This was a failure by the coaching staff and the most egregious mistake they made last season IMO.

According to reports Peterman was pushing Worley last year for the starting job meaning through practices and scrimmages there wasn't a lot of separation between the two.

Additionally, Peterman was said to be the more athletic QB of the two and, after Worley struggled mightily at Oregon, it wasn't a stretch IMO to throw Peterman in there and give him his chance and hopefully give the team a shot in the arm. All Butch could do was evaluate his quarterbacks based on how they were working, performing and preparing during practice. There was no way to know how Peterman (or any other player for that matter) was going to respond until he put him out there.

I know a lot of people really criticized Butch for choosing to start and stay with Peterman for the first half of the Florida game in hindsight. I'm not one of them.

 

[sjt18]

I respect the guts it took to give Peterman that start. If I were going to criticize anything it would be that he did it on the road against an extremely talented D in the Swamp. I hope that the bad taste of that mistake won't make Jones less bold in the future when he needs to make changes or try different things.

 

[xpsyclonex2002]

Nathan Peterman. I always like to bring up the forgotten one.

Thank you. Duely noted. Moving on.

 

[KBVol]

I respect the guts it took to give Peterman that start. If I were going to criticize anything it would be that he did it on the road against an extremely talented D in the Swamp. I hope that the bad taste of that mistake won't make Jones less bold in the future when he needs to make changes or try different things.

I agree that it was a gamble/risk on a grander scale given that they put him out there on the road at Florida. But I think it helps us infer just how frustrated they were with Worley to that point. He struggled to a great degree in the So Alabama game with the 3 picks and then of course, he was highly ineffective at Oregon. Obviously, Butch gambled and lost, but I'm with you in that I respect him for showing the guts he did in making the move.

Ultimately it seemed to light a bit of a fire under Worley as he played pretty well in relief at Florida and then posted his 2 best games of the season vs Georgia and SCar.

 

[sjt18]

It may have lit a fire under Worley but it may have also have caused Jones to look at how tough his WR situation was on his WR's. IIRC, that was the game where he called Pig out for reading a route incorrectly and causing an INT at the goal line.

Either way, Worley did begin to improve as did the WR's. Though his good options were few, he started to develop a stronger rapport with North. They began to have trust with each other.

Hopefully a full off-season with North and the other guys will expand that trust to 6-8 guys. If so, UT's passing game reversal will be called a "miracle" by sports media.

 

[aRmo]

It may have lit a fire under Worley but it may have also have caused Jones to look at how tough his WR situation was on his WR's. IIRC, that was the game where he called Pig out for reading a route incorrectly and causing an INT at the goal line.

Either way, Worley did begin to improve as did the WR's. Though his good options were few, he started to develop a stronger rapport with North. They began to have trust with each other.

Hopefully a full off-season with North and the other guys will expand that trust to 6-8 guys. If so, UT's passing game reversal will be called a "miracle" by sports media.

I Agree on this, however how well the passing game does also depends heavily on how well the offensive line plays. If you have Worley on the run constantly its not going to go well. If this happens expect Dobbs to get the snaps due to his mobility and ability to throw better on his back foot than Worley. IDC who starts honestly all this is Hypothetical. All i care about is beating Florida. idc if we go 5-7 again as long as we beat Florida. O and Vandy to we need revenge on that Butt-wippin they delivered back in 2012.

 

[sjt18]

I Agree on this, however how well the passing game does also depends heavily on how well the offensive line plays. If you have Worley on the run constantly its not going to go well. If this happens expect Dobbs to get the snaps due to his mobility and ability to throw better on his back foot than Worley. IDC who starts honestly all this is Hypothetical. All i care about is beating Florida. idc if we go 5-7 again as long as we beat Florida. O and Vandy to we need revenge on that Butt-wippin they delivered back in 2012.

I really like Dobbs... especially his intelligence. It is really exciting to me to think of what a guy with a photographic memory might be able to do to D's once the arm development is fully there. However, Worley at this point has the stronger arm and made better decisions throughout the spring.

I am really only concerned about LT. I think Thomas will hold his own at RT. I am one of those who think the middle 3 will be an overall upgrade compared to last year. IMHO from 1000 miles away and only going off what I have seen on TV and video... Crowder should have started and Jackson would have started had they not chosen to RS him.

If there was desperation at the QB position then I suspect there was on the OL as well. There's no question last year's guys had talent. But Bullard looked like the weak link most of the year and no one except for maybe Fulton had anything that looked like a killer instinct.

Jones complained alot about them not finishing blocks... I suspect the new group won't have the same problem.

 

[KBVol]

It may have lit a fire under Worley but it may have also have caused Jones to look at how tough his WR situation was on his WR's. IIRC, that was the game where he called Pig out for reading a route incorrectly and causing an INT at the goal line.

Either way, Worley did begin to improve as did the WR's. Though his good options were few, he started to develop a stronger rapport with North. They began to have trust with each other.

Hopefully a full off-season with North and the other guys will expand that trust to 6-8 guys. If so, UT's passing game reversal will be called a "miracle" by sports media.

Couldn't agree more. The national sports media has no clue as to what UT does or doesn't have. They're a bunch of lemmings who will all say the same things (they're young, return no OLs, no DLs, will be lucky to win 5-6) without knowing the specifics. Perhaps our younger and less experienced OLs and DLs are quicker, nastier, more athletic and ultimately more successful.

I think you're right about the chemistry between Worley and North....and Croom....and to a lesser extent Malone and Pearson. I'll also throw in the obvious "it's easier to have good chemistry with a guy who gets great separation than a guy who can't get open to save his life".

 

[sjt18]

I think you're right about the chemistry between Worley and North....and Croom....and to a lesser extent Malone and Pearson. I'll also throw in the obvious "it's easier to have good chemistry with a guy who gets great separation than a guy who can't get open to save his life".

I'm hoping it goes beyond that to having 2-4 TE's that the QB's can rely on plus Croom, Smith, Malone, North, Pig, Jackson, Pearson, Young, Lane, Hurd, Wharton, Jenkins (assuming), Johnson, and even guys like Blanc and Bowles who don't seem to have quit yet.

That is a very, very talented group. Not proven but very good athletes.

Compare that to the group Kiffin inherited... There isn't a comparison in terms of raw talent... or even go back to the two years prior to that.

I know I draw a lot of angst by pointing out things like this.... but if the coaches cannot find production in that group then they aren't doing their jobs.

As for the "well but" concerning UT's QB's... I watched Wuerrfel shred the SEC surrounded by great WR's on the way to winning the Heisman. All three of UT's QB's have more physical ability than Wuerffel.

 

[KBVol]

I'm hoping it goes beyond that to having 2-4 TE's that the QB's can rely on plus Croom, Smith, Malone, North, Pig, Jackson, Pearson, Young, Lane, Hurd, Wharton, Jenkins (assuming), Johnson, and even guys like Blanc and Bowles who don't seem to have quit yet.

That is a very, very talented group. Not proven but very good athletes.

Compare that to the group Kiffin inherited... There isn't a comparison in terms of raw talent... or even go back to the two years prior to that.

I know I draw a lot of angst by pointing out things like this.... but if the coaches cannot find production in that group then they aren't doing their jobs.

As for the "well but" concerning UT's QB's... I watched Wuerrfel shred the SEC surrounded by great WR's on the way to winning the Heisman. All three of UT's QB's have more physical ability than Wuerffel.

I joined you in criticizing they WR play last year and by extension Coach Z's coaching performance. I thought it was poor, even with the lack of talent and experience at the position.....the Vandy game was arguably the worst WR/QB performance I think I've ever witnessed. It was dreadful. With a full year to mesh with returning WRs and 8 months with our very talented EEs, we should see a considerable improvement. If not, Coach Z should be evaluated very harshly.

 

[aRmo]

I really like Dobbs... especially his intelligence. It is really exciting to me to think of what a guy with a photographic memory might be able to do to D's once the arm development is fully there. However, Worley at this point has the stronger arm and made better decisions throughout the spring.

I am really only concerned about LT. I think Thomas will hold his own at RT. I am one of those who think the middle 3 will be an overall upgrade compared to last year. IMHO from 1000 miles away and only going off what I have seen on TV and video... Crowder should have started and Jackson would have started had they not chosen to RS him.

If there was desperation at the QB position then I suspect there was on the OL as well. There's no question last year's guys had talent. But Bullard looked like the weak link most of the year and no one except for maybe Fulton had anything that looked like a killer instinct.

Jones complained alot about them not finishing blocks... I suspect the new group won't have the same problem.

Your not the only one who thinks that about last years O-Line. Yea they had alot of snaps together but also had to learn different types of offenses under different coaches. I thought they were ok but did not live up to the hype. If they had another year under CBJ i think they would have been great but that wasnt the case last year.