Will CBJ Offense work in the SEC?

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VolsRule said:
if that's true, then any offense works against any defense.
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That is true. Any type offense, can be effective against any type of defense as long as they execute.

There's no 1 defense that will completely shutdown any offense. You always have to give up something on defense, and a good offense will exploit that.

The only time this won't hold true is if the defense is vastly superior to the offense.

My varsity squad will always beat up on the scout team offense, even if the scout O has the perfect play call. Because they are vastly superior.
 
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The offense Jones prefers is a lot more downhill and physical than what Clemson is doing right now, and that worked out well enough against LSU.

So yeah, I’m feeling a bit more confident that this offense will work against SEC teams. Not guaranteeing anything, though.
 
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CBJ has said that in terms of scheme they would

A.) Develop a scheme based on the personnel we have.

And

B.) Recruit the best possible players and develop a scheme based on their strengths.

So I dont really know how we can definitively say at this point WHAT a CBJ offense looks like.
 
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In these types of offenses, life can be great if you find a QB like Newton, Tebow, or Manziel. However, if you find a QB that just likes to throw, then see Brantley in Florida, Colt Brennan and Hawaii vs. Georgia in the Sugar Bowl, etc.
An offense like Bama's can afford to have an average tool like McCarron and still roll. Butch's offense will not have that luxury. An average-only QB in this offense means certain death for UT.
 
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I really hate to say this but I watched the entire Duke and Cincy game. Cincy on offense or defense did not impress me in the least. However, I like Butch Jones and his youth and vigor brings new life into a dead program. Hope he does well here.
 
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iluvsmesumdooley said:
In these types of offenses, life can be great if you find a QB like Newton, Tebow, or Manziel. However, if you find a QB that just likes to throw, then see Brantley in Florida, Colt Brennan and Hawaii vs. Georgia in the Sugar Bowl, etc.
An offense like Bama's can afford to have an average tool like McCarron and still roll. Butch's offense will not have that luxury. An average-only QB in this offense means certain death for UT.
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I thought it was the opposite the spread can take an average QB and make him look better than he is.
 
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ReelfootVol said:
I really hate to say this but I watched the entire Duke and Cincy game. Cincy on offense or defense did not impress me in the least. However, I like Butch Jones and his youth and vigor brings new life into a dead program. Hope he does well here.
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Knowing that Cincy went into the game with only 4 coaches as compared to Duke's 10 coaches, and won the game by 2 td's was very impressive.

The so-called "Cincy scheme" absolutely ruled, and was the primary difference in the game...!!! :good!:
 
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iluvsmesumdooley said:
In these types of offenses, life can be great if you find a QB like Newton, Tebow, or Manziel. However, if you find a QB that just likes to throw, then see Brantley in Florida, Colt Brennan and Hawaii vs. Georgia in the Sugar Bowl, etc.
An offense like Bama's can afford to have an average tool like McCarron and still roll. Butch's offense will not have that luxury. An average-only QB in this offense means certain death for UT.
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The "average tool" A.J. McCarron is the number one ranked quarterback in the country this year, with a 173.1 rating. Aaron Murray is second. Taj Boyd is number 4.

McCarron completed 191 of 286 (66.8%), for 9.33 yards per attempt, 26 TD's and only 3 interceptions. These stats are just about identical to his stats last year. Apparently, he is a consistent average tool also.
 
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1972 Grad said:
The "average tool" A.J. McCarron is the number one ranked quarterback in the country this year, with a 173.1 rating. Aaron Murray is second. Taj Boyd is number 4.

McCarron completed 191 of 286 (66.8%), for 9.33 yards per attempt, 26 TD's and only 3 interceptions. These stats are just about identical to his stats last year. Apparently, he is a consistent average tool also.
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defenses have to stack the box constantly, to stop the run.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
defenses have to stack the box constantly, to stop the run.
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Oh, so any QB could have those stats, and could take that team down the field against both LSU and Georgia to win at the end? And any old average tool could throw only 3 interceptions in 286 passes? Now I get it.
 
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iluvsmesumdooley said:
In these types of offenses, life can be great if you find a QB like Newton, Tebow, or Manziel. However, if you find a QB that just likes to throw, then see Brantley in Florida, Colt Brennan and Hawaii vs. Georgia in the Sugar Bowl, etc.
An offense like Bama's can afford to have an average tool like McCarron and still roll. Butch's offense will not have that luxury. An average-only QB in this offense means certain death for UT.
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1. Colt Brennan never ran zone read. They ran the run n shoot.

2. This offense can make do with an average qb, Spurrier hasn't had a great qb since he arrived in South Carolina.
 
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Vol8188 said:
1. Colt Brennan never ran zone read. They ran the run n shoot.

2. This offense can make do with an average qb, Spurrier hasn't had a great qb since he arrived in South Carolina.
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It will probably be easier to make do with an average qb in this offense than it would be in Chaney's or a prostyle offense.
 
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I think the offense will rack up some big yards against the middle and bottom level teams in the SEC....But don't really see it producing championships...unless they can adapt it to run when needed to run out clock....:salute:
 
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MikeVol44 said:
I think the offense will rack up some big yards against the middle and bottom level teams in the SEC....But don't really see it producing championships...unless they can adapt it to run when needed to run out clock....:salute:
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Urban Meyer won a NC with this offense.

Rich Rod won in the Big Least with this offense.

Spurrier has been highly successful at USCjr with this offense.

Chip Kelly won the Pac ?? (not sure how many teams they have now, 14?) with this offense.

Mac Brown won a NC with this offense.
 
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I think this offense will be better than a lot of people think. The thing that worries me in this offense the qb takes more hits. You better have confidence in your back up.
 
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ReelfootVol said:
I really hate to say this but I watched the entire Duke and Cincy game. Cincy on offense or defense did not impress me in the least. However, I like Butch Jones and his youth and vigor brings new life into a dead program. Hope he does well here.
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Well they won without 2/3 of their coaches, so that is impressive in itself.

One thing I am looking for from CBJ and I think we will see is the lack of predictability. Back when Spurrier was givin us fits in FL, he kept us off balance and unsure of what the offense would do. I expect CBJ to do some of this as well and that helps alot when the other SEC teams are still recruiting better than us.
 
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Were going to tire out a lot of defenses. If we can get top classes we can run a no huddle up tempo offense.
 
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Burger said:
Were going to tire out a lot of defenses. If we can get top classes we can run a no huddle up tempo offense.
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We'll run an up tempo no huddle either way.
Our defense will be fine because of the conditioning program.

In 2011 Cincy had 3 2nd half comebacks in a row.
 
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Smcvol said:
IMO, not much variation from Chaney offense. Personnel returning ( pig, Q, Dallas, etc....) fit scheme. With line as our strength, more emphasis on run game ( Lane and Neal).

Honestly, I am more concerned about defense. Anything would be an improvement.
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I don't know, I saw highlights of cincy playing vandy and their offense looks nothing like chaneys
 
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My Sources , Tell me , the new UT offense will have 11 players . They will be charged with running , throwing and catching . There will be a subset , that are charged with a thing called blocking . If all 11 players run,throw catch and block . I really don't care if they line up single file , front to back or side to side . Not to be smart aleck , But hell if they execute , it really does not matter .
 
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It's all about having the right players and execution no matter what type of offense you run. Any offense can be effective with talented players who fit your system and execute the game plan no matter if you run a wishbone, spread, pro style, or any other type of offense.

For example, look at the discrepancy between the Florida offense under Meyer (spread offense that preferred a mobile QB and quick skill position players an linemen) and the offense that Saban runs at Alabama (pro style offense that prefers a pocket passing QB and big/strong skill position players and linemen). They are completely different schemes yet both of them were/are able to win at the highest level by getting talented players who fit their system and executed it at a high level.

No doubt that you have to have talent to win but if you have that and the right guys for your system then it shouldn't matter what type of offense you run as long as you execute it the way it should be.
 
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