Will Grier - WVU Bowl Game

You must work at AWFUL places. Or, you’re lying...

We’ll leave it up to interpretation which of the two I believe.
Not lying. That is been my experience for 25 plus years. How long have you been working ? If not long then you may be in for shock later. The ones you are closer to are the ones you cannot trust.
 
Not lying. That is been my experience for 25 plus years. How long have you been working ? If not long then you may be in for shock later. The ones you are closer to are the ones you cannot trust.
21 years. I’ve always found way more team players than those that weren’t.
 
21 years. I’ve always found way more team players than those that weren’t.
21 years. I’ve always found way more team players than those that weren’t.
Probably closer to 35 years for me. The last job I had was 20 years and 3/4 of the department over the years was not to be trusted. Lot of turnover in those 20 years and it was a department that was all administrative salary.
 
Probably closer to 35 years for me. The last job I had was 20 years and 3/4 of the department over the years was not to be trusted. Lot of turnover in those 20 years and it was a department that was all administrative salary.
So you worked somewhere awful. And you changed your story. How did you miss ten years of working in your previous post? That’s old school alright. Be new school and just admit you overreacted and were wrong.

The other theory: if everyone else is miserable, hates their job, can’t be trusted, and/or leaves, they AREN’T the problem.
 
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They have really devalued the bowl games by putting every .500 team in a bowl. And changing the name every two years doesn't help. I looked at the bowl schedule and these are a few of the Bowl games...Cheez-It Bowl, Quick Lane Bowl, Dollar General Bowl, Gasparilla Bowl, Camellia Bowl.
 
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They have really devalued the bowl games by putting every .500 team in a bowl. And changing the name every two years doesn't help. I looked at the bowl schedule and these are a few of the Bowl games...Cheez-It Bowl, Quick Lane Bowl, Dollar General Bowl, Gasparilla Bowl, Camellia Bowl.
The outrage of giving me free football.
 
So you worked somewhere awful. And you changed your story. How did you miss ten years of working in your previous post? That’s old school alright. Be new school and just admit you overreacted and were wrong.

Ha - not really changed my story but just clarified it , 10 years est. before college and 25 years est. after. I still stand by my original opinion that Grier has quit on the team. Check the WVU fan sites to see how they feel about it.
 
Ha - not really changed my story but just clarified it , 10 years est. before college and 25 years est. after. I still stand by my original opinion that Grier has quit on the team. Check the WVU fan sites to see how they feel about it.
Go read my edit. I have a hunch it’s valuable info
 
Go read my edit. I have a hunch it’s valuable info

Well your edit could mean several different things so you will have to be more specific. Anyway the bottom line is you cannot compare the team concept in the workplace to the team concept for a competitive sports team at any level IMO. We will have to agree to disagree on Will Grier.
 
Well your edit could mean several different things so you will have to be more specific. Anyway the bottom line is you cannot compare the team concept in the workplace to the team concept for a competitive sports team at any level IMO. We will have to agree to disagree on Will Grier.
Nope, you just got as specific as needed.
 
Nope, you just got as specific as needed.
Remember the movie "My cousin Vinny". As Joe Pesci stated to the judge after destroying a witnesses testimony , "I'm done with this guy", well I'm done with you. You are a bright guy and I'm sure you will figure out my point.
 
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Remember the movie "My cousin Vinny". As Joe Pesci stated to the judge after destroying a witnesses testimony , "I'm done with this guy", well I'm done with you. You are a bright guy and I'm sure you will figure out my point.
Sorry I can’t say the same about you.
 
They have really devalued the bowl games by putting every .500 team in a bowl. And changing the name every two years doesn't help. I looked at the bowl schedule and these are a few of the Bowl games...Cheez-It Bowl, Quick Lane Bowl, Dollar General Bowl, Gasparilla Bowl, Camellia Bowl.
Yep also sick of playing big ten teams

Seems like a ton of sec teams get matched up with them every year

Michigan for third time in 3 years???? Couldn’t give is WSU or somebody else just for ratings purposes and the fans of the teams interest
 
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Yep also sick of playing big ten teams

Seems like a ton of sec teams get matched up with them every year

Michigan for third time in 3 years???? Couldn’t give is WSU or somebody else just for ratings purposes and the fans of the teams interest
Stop finishing in the middle of the SEC pack. (I realize we’re not even in the middle of the pack). The tie ins are made by the bowl and sponsors, other option is to finish even worse and you get bowls where not all the tie ins fit so they get somewhat random.
 
Yes , because he is in the limelight and his decisions are out there for all to see. Grier might be good father, husband and son but as a teammate he is nothing and that will stay with him the rest of his life. He will not be able to clear himself of that decision.

My guess is that his teammates support him.
 
Not even close to be a glorified combine unless they changed the rules to play it as a Flag football game without pads.

Given you started this thread saying you'd never heard of a player sitting out of a bowl game because of his NFL status and now you saying this, I'm starting to think you've not actually watched football before.
 
Yes , because he is in the limelight and his decisions are out there for all to see. Grier might be good father, husband and son but as a teammate he is nothing and that will stay with him the rest of his life. He will not be able to clear himself of that decision.

Have you been his teammate? Have you talked with his teammates? The answer to both is "no", so you about you STFU making assertions you have no basis to make.

My God you're a judgemental person.
 
I'm done with talking about Grier and will concentrate getting updates on the 2019 recruiting class and O.C. search. It's been a enjoyable debate with all of you who disagree with me. We still have common goals with Vol Football, do we not ?

Not really, I wish you'd go root for someone else if you're going to so easily trash a guy with such ignorance.
 
So you worked somewhere awful. And you changed your story. How did you miss ten years of working in your previous post? That’s old school alright. Be new school and just admit you overreacted and were wrong.

The other theory: if everyone else is miserable, hates their job, can’t be trusted, and/or leaves, they AREN’T the problem.

I agree. Since he likes to make harsh assertions about a guy he doesn't know based on factors he doesn't know, I'm going to do the same to him.

He worked in the same crappy job for decades and never rose up and was constantly passed over. He's pissed about and blamed everyone else for being "cut throat", "back stabbing" and "kiss ass", and never looked at his own performance and self.
 

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