Will Heupel stay loyal to his buddies or make the changes necessary for continued progress?

#26
#26
But if the big boss Danny White tells him he needs to make changes. Make it so. I have seen Danny White is not going to settle for anything less than big time.
Finishing #7 in the nation and making the college football playoff isn’t big?

I’m not saying I disagree with you. Personally I think this staff could use some improvement. But I’m being realistic about what I think will happen. I don’t think any AD is going to demand a head coach fire assistant coaches after the season we had.
 
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Finishing #7 in the nation and making the college football playoff isn’t big?

I’m not saying I disagree with you. Personally I think this staff could use some improvement. But I’m being realistic about what I think will happen. I don’t think any AD is going to demand a head coach fire assistant coaches after the season we had.
Your probaly right. I just think the way our O-line and WRs played this year. Something needs to be changed. You can get by with it some of the time. But not against Georgia, Alabama (most of the time) and we have to go to the swamp next year and you know how that's been. How many times did we see a 3Rd and 1 or 2 and get a false start.
 
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To answer this question all you have to do is look at his history.

He re-upped the worst DB coach in the sec...

Unless other teams come calling for assistants (which I highly doubt now after Saturday) we are fd.
 
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You folks amaze me. We are finally fielding a team that wins and we want to fire our way to success. I didn't like the hire of Heupel, but who would want our job back then? The guy has done great in giving the fans excitement and has shown he is successful. Let the guy do his job. If he feels like he needs to replace someone, it should be his choice. I think he has earned the right to steer the ship.

I wanted an offense that run up the gut every play for 4 to 5 yards from the power I and defenses that crushed everyone. I will never see that kind of running game, but it is interesting to watch. This is the first year our defense looked better than average and I've enjoyed the season. I didn't expect to win it all and most of you didn't either.
You have to evaluate your coaching staff every year. If you can upgrade then you upgrade. We get smoked by UGA every year. We obviously aren’t even in OSUs stratosphere. We need to recruit better. Changes HAVE to be made.

I mean do you not see that changes need to be made? Do you want to win a championship?
 
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You’re probaly right. I just think the way our O-line and WRs played this year. Something needs to be changed. You can get by with it some of the time. But not against Georgia, Alabama (most of the time) and we have to go to the swamp next year and you know how that's been. How many times did we see a 3Rd and 1 or 2 and get a false start.
I am the most disappointed with the WRs. Even last year they dropped quite a few sure fire TDs from Milton. They look slow and aren’t very reliable or consistent.
 
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You have to evaluate your coaching staff every year. If you can upgrade then you upgrade. We get smoked by UGA every year. We obviously aren’t even in OSUs stratosphere. We need to recruit better. Changes HAVE to be made.

I mean do you not see that changes need to be made? Do you want to win a championship?
Alot on here are happy not being bottom teir.

To each their own.

Imo our fanbase (which I truly believe to be top 3 in the country) fn deserve better
 
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On Hazle - I’m not sure. He may need to be replaced . . . Or one more year may show us he is the guy. Here is what I do know: Nico can scramble and make some plays with his legs. His deep ball is not there yet. Our oline is simply bad. If Nico / the offense cannot go fast . . . This offense looks to be dead in the water against good defenses.

Elarbee - Oline has been bad for 2 straight years.

Martinez sucks.
Don’t forget about our wr core..no production what so ever.
 
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I don’t think Heupel is that guy. I’d say he thinks the best of everyone and is probably too loyal.
What Elite coach is out there that’s ready to come to Tennessee? Kiffin, Dooley, Butch, Pruitt; those are the caliber of coaches we’ve been able to hire in the past. Heupel took a dumpster fire with like fifty scholarships and has made them a contender in two of his four years here.

It’s entirely possible that there’s a ceiling on NIL which also is a ceiling on where this team can go. Bc a few teams billionaires are much more motivated and capable than our billionaire donors.
 
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Finishing #7 in the nation and making the college football playoff isn’t big?

I’m not saying I disagree with you. Personally I think this staff could use some improvement. But I’m being realistic about what I think will happen. I don’t think any AD is going to demand a head coach fire assistant coaches after the season we had.
Nor should he tell a head coach what assistant coaches he should fire.
 
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You have to evaluate your coaching staff every year. If you can upgrade then you upgrade. We get smoked by UGA every year. We obviously aren’t even in OSUs stratosphere. We need to recruit better. Changes HAVE to be made.

I mean do you not see that changes need to be made? Do you want to win a championship?
I think that he knows what's going on with the team better than you and I. I don't know what changes need to happen because I'm not there every day and I don't presume to think I know better than the coach. It's his team until he resigns or is fired. Do you go in to work telling your boss who needs to be fired? I'm not saying you specifically, but that is essentially what we are saying if we say this or that coach needs to go.
 
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Weren’t you telling people to leave last night for saying some assistant coaches needed to go? 🤔
For those wanting a new DC yes. Let me ask you a question. What propelled us to an 11-2 record in 2022? Offense or defense? Was our offense or defense in the top 5 nationally? Now this season. What got us to 10 wins? Offense or defense? Was it the offense or defense that was ranked in the top 5 nationally?
 
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I think that he knows what's going on with the team better than you and I. I don't know what changes need to happen because I'm not there every day and I don't presume to think I know better than the coach. It's his team until he resigns or is fired. Do you go in to work telling your boss who needs to be fired? I'm not saying you specifically, but that is essentially what we are saying if we say this or that coach needs to go.
I know he knows better than we do. But that doesn’t mean he is infallible. And yes I have worked at jobs and made recommendations to bosses before. I am pretty sure Heupel sees changes need to be made. I am saying if he doesn’t then that’s a serious problem.
 
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I know he knows better than we do. But that doesn’t mean he is infallible. And yes I have worked at jobs and made recommendations to bosses before. I am pretty sure Heupel sees changes need to be made. I am saying if he doesn’t then that’s a serious problem.
I'm assuming you were on a position to make those recommendations and you weren't telling the owner to fire your boss. None of us are infallible or we wouldn't be making statements like we know what is happening behind closed doors. Fans aren't happy with last night. I'm pleased with the totality of the season and the team appears to be moving in the right direction. That's the way I choose to see it. I hated the way Majors was replaced and was happy to see Phillip go. That's emotional decisions. I think that's where some of this is coming from.
 
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For those wanting a new DC yes. Let me ask you a question. What propelled us to an 11-2 record in 2022? Offense or defense? Was our offense or defense in the top 5 nationally? Now this season. What got us to 10 wins? Offense or defense? Was it the offense or defense that was ranked in the top 5 nationally?
Oh sure still not hypocritical at all lol. Yeah defense pulled through for most of the year up until about 2nd half of the Kentucky game where teams started figuring something out. Why those problems weren’t corrected is a huge issue. And in big games his reluctance to adjust his scheme is asinine. And not to mention this is the first year out of four where he’s fielded a good defense. Northwestern played better defense in the first half against Ohio state than the team did last night. So players are not the end all be all in keeping the game close at least for a while. He could have schemed something up much better than last night. So while your team is still performing well and has the resources why not go make big upgrades everywhere you can? All the winning programs did even when they were having success and if propelled them to national championships. Saban, Kirby, Dabo, and more have replaced coordinators/assistants after successful years and it took them to the promise land. Heupel needs to do the same.
 
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Elarbee, Halzle and Martinez are liabilities at best. Will Hbc's loyalty to long time staffers cause stagnation of progress?

Per Rocky Top Rewind podcast, Martinez, Ekeler and Banks's contracts expire at the end of January 2025 so Heupel has some key decisions to make right off the bat.
 
#45
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Oh sure still not hypocritical at all lol. Yeah defense pulled through for most of the year up until about 2nd half of the Kentucky game where teams started figuring something out. Why those problems weren’t corrected is a huge issue. And in big games his reluctance to adjust his scheme is asinine. And not to mention this is the first year out of four where he’s fielded a good defense. Northwestern played better defense in the first half against Ohio state than the team did last night. So players are not the end all be all in keeping the game close at least for a while. He could have schemed something up much better than last night. So while your team is still performing well and has the resources why not go make big upgrades everywhere you can? All the winning programs did even when they were having success and if propelled them to national championships. Saban, Kirby, Dabo, and more have replaced coordinators/assistants after successful years and it took them to the promise land. Heupel needs to do the same.
Our defense kept us ALL year. Your memory is short. Banks fielded the best defense we have had in decades. Did UGA and OSU shred our defense? Sure. You talk like running a defense is an easy thing. Get real. I am gonna day this and you can disagree all you want. The only reason we won 10 games is because of Banks.

How many games do we win this year with the 2022 defense? Maybe 6 or 7? You have no clue and neither do I about scheming against a team like OSU. You think you do but you don’t. I don’t know exactly who needs to be replaced. But imo, Banks isn’t one high on the list.
 
#49
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He doesn't necessarily need to technically "fire" them. He can tell them to start actively looking for another job while he is in the process of replacing them
Like Golesh, if Heupel hires someone really good as an OC or OL Coach, the trick is keeping them.

If tOSU makes a deep run, people may come after Chip Kelly from both college and the NFL. Saban had a revolving door of both "rehab" coaches AND guys on their way up on his staff.
 
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