Will Muschamp to UF

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#351
PennVol said:
Agreed. He's solid, but I can think of 10 better defensive coaches over the past 5 or so years.
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Name 10 D Coordinators who have been better this decade. You can't just say this season this guy was and in 2008 this guy was. Name 10 D Coordinators who have a better body of work in the college game right now.
 
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volfanbill said:
Name 10 D Coordinators who have been better this decade. You can't just say this season this guy was and in 2008 this guy was. Name 10 D Coordinators who have a better body of work in the college game right now.
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The majority of guys with comparable resumes are head coaches now.
 
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Ed12111 said:
It's not Will Muschamp is a much bigger hire than Dan Mullen. People on this board don't know what they're talking about.
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Mullen is a proven HC. Winning at MSU isn't easy.

Muschamp is a guy with potential.

It just depends on what you want.

Potential or proven?
 
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Muschamp had better find a good OC which may not be easy to do since he's a rookie HC. It was rumored that Applewhite would be his choice and that'd be a bad one for UF, but he probably stays at Texas. As far as DC, it doesn't really matter who they hire because Muschamp will be the real DC. That is why I don't believe this talk about Kirby Smart coming along with him.
 
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justingroves said:
Muschamp had better find some real WRs and TBs or that offense is going to be rough to watch.
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You better believe it.

The guys they have playing now have been playing in a spread offense all their lives.

Learning to play in a Pro-Style may be too much of a learning curve in the 1st year.

Its hard for some to adjust to two different OCs, with the same style of offense
 
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rjd970 said:
I always thought Applewhite was overrated.

On a side note, Muschamp has just walked into an impossible situation. Anything less than 1 NC and two SECC within the first 4 years will not be tolerated. Meyer's regime set the bar high.
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He won't get 4 years.
 
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Mason72 said:
well I wanted Muschamp but I wouldnt trade Dooley for anyone right now. I think we got the perfect coach for UT and he will win a NC within 5 yrs if not more than one.
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Regulator said:
Multiple sources have Major Applewhite following Muschamp to UF as OC. Also, Muschamps buyout?? $0.00 USD
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I find this very hard to believe. But if that is true, there is no more evidence available that will tell you Muschamp was a panic hire... an effort by Florida to save face.

There was no reason for them to have to make a decision this quickly. It's not lot NSD is 2 weeks away.

Panic move
 
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I will admit that I am a UT homer. I wanted Muschamp last year. I am very pleased with DD and have been supporting him from day one. All that said, there is a big difference between UT and FL as far as coaching searches go. UT, was looking for its 3rd HC in 3 yrs. It was days away from national signing day. Its was a depleted roster.

FL can take their time. CUM is still around to help with the transition in regards to recruiting. FL has plenty of talent on its roster and has plenty of time before NSD. As a Vol fan, I think this is about a good a hire as I could have hoped for. Its surprising UF didn't get someone with more experience. WM could turn out to be the best coach the SEC has ever seen, but I don't think that will be the case. I think he will do fine, but I think it will be a step down from where they are now. That is all I can ask for.

If TN was looking for a coach after our run in the 90's with a full cupboard and someone like WM was to replace CPF, then I would have been very disappointed. FL is in a much different situation than TN was in last year. This seems like a reach, but I'm all for it.
 
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Florida Staff:

Head Coach: Will Muschamp (Texas DC)
Offensive Coordinator: Major Applewhite (AHC/RB Coach & Ex Bama OC)
Defensive Coordinator: Duane Akina (Ex Texas DC prior to Muschamps arrival to Texas & Texas DB Coach)
DL Coach: Bo Davis (Alabama DL Coach)
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
In what way is this hire nearly as bad as the DD hire was last year? Muschamp may not have any head coaching experience, but he has been successful everywhere he's been. He was good enough that Texas had already named him their next coach. Plus, he'll be able to recruit with the best of them, and there's plenty of talent right in his back yard. This certainly isn't a step up from Meyer, but I seriously doubt this is going to be the calamity that some on the board are predicting.
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Well said.....
 
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#364
Major Appelwhite is very well known to Mack Brown, from his days as a player up through his coaching career. When Greg Davis was fired, Appelwhite was one of several candidates being mentioned to replace Davis as OC, but Brown as of yesterday, Brown obviously wasn't convinced he was the best option for Texas. That's who UF looks to be getting as their OC.

I like Muschamp, and would have been happy with him for UT last year, but the support for him was far from unanimous on this board. I think it's where I first heard the name "Muschump." The pool that UT was picking from last year was a lot shallower than the one available to UF this year for many reasons, and while this could work out for UF, I would have been a lot more worried if they had gotten any number of the names that were being thrown around like:
  • Gary Paterson
  • Chris Petersen
  • Bob Stoops
  • Jim Harbaugh
  • Bobby Petrino
  • Dan Mullen
Muschamp would have been right in there with Charlie Strong and Gus Malzahn. I think there's a very good chance that the SEC East is going to be very balanced over the next 5 years now, with everyone but UK and Vandy having a shot.
 
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theutvolunteers said:
Maybe folks should not think that UF could walk into a meeting/interview and say we are UF be our coach. Sort of a media hype saying how awesome they are.
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Don't be biased. It's a top 5 job. Muschamp is not a top 5 coach.
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volfanbill said:
Muschamp never lost his title. Ever. It was never in question. Nor has Mack Brown's job status been in question. Mack Brown isn't ready to retire and Muschamp had an opportunity to coach an elite program and he took it. Muschamp is a fabulous recruiter and quite possibly the best D coordinator in college football. So many Tennessee fans wanted him year ago and he said no. Now suddenly he's a bad hire for Florida. Hilarious.
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Third and chavis was a heck a lot better defensive coordinator than muschamp....
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Dudley Smith said:
  • Gary Paterson
  • Chris Petersen
  • Bob Stoops
  • Jim Harbaugh
  • Bobby Petrino
  • Dan Mullen
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Patterson and Peterson have turned down jobs before, they both seem very comfortable and extremely happy with where they are. Foley should have and probably did send out feelers to them and got snubbed. Stoops would've just said no for the third time. Harbaugh only has two possible destinations in his future, Michigan or the NFL. Petrino has a good thing going at Arkansas, a rabid fan base that can handle losing, a solid group of players even after Mallet leaves and is trying to shed his bad guy image. Bolting again would have been a nightmare for him, and UF doesn't want someone that's only going to be around two years or so. Dan Mullen has also talked about how happy he is with his current location and while I don't know how, MSU claims they will raise the stakes to keep Mullen in Starkville.

Florida is an elite program, I grant everyone that. But it's not the end all of college football. Just because they are Florida does not mean any coach from any school automatically wants to go there. It's foolish that so many of ya'll think that.
 
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NYYVol said:
Don't be biased. It's a top 5 job. Muschamp is not a top 5 coach.
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Im not being biased. I feel like the media pushed they could hire anyone. Obviously, that is not true, but the opportunities there are great.
 
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NYYVol said:
Don't be biased. It's a top 5 job. Muschamp is not a top 5 coach.
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great coaches are just going to jump ship because "it's florida"...

"ooh shiny, let's go there". It's ridiculous to think so. There was so much speculation about hiring Meyer a few years ago and that worked out fine. Now, I grant you, Meyer had shown great success as a HC, but everywhere Muschamp has been he's been successful and the HC there has raved about him. There really wasn't much better UF could have done.
 
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volfanbill said:
thanks for the laugh
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How do you say he wasn't?

I saw another argument of yours in another thread that you can't look at Muschamp's D this year because their offense was horrible.

LSU's was equally as pathetic. Yet, Chavis still had a mean, nasty defense. Bill Westchamp had talent that was close to if not equal to LSUs on defense. Didn't look nearly as good.

Fact.
 
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volfanbill said:
great coaches are just going to jump ship because "it's florida"...

"ooh shiny, let's go there". It's ridiculous to think so. There was so much speculation about hiring Meyer a few years ago and that worked out fine. Now, I grant you, Meyer had shown great success as a HC, but everywhere Muschamp has been he's been successful and the HC there has raved about him. There really wasn't much better UF could have done.
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Mack Brown saying you are a good coach does nothing to solidify that you really are. Mack Brown is Fulmer V.2.

Yes, they could have. I can name 7-8 guys I'd take over Muschamp easily. UT might not could have pulled em, but UF shouldn't have had a problem pulling them.
 
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Anyone saying this is anything more than a neutral hire for FL is huffing Longhorn or Gator dung. If you hire Muschamp you'd expect top shelf assistants to offset his lack of HC experience and with the names i've seen so far I think we did better.
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