Will some current Commits be politely told to move on

[volmandu]

I know this sounds horrible thing to do but with all the momentum and wins, will some of the lower ranked commits be told to look around ? It is early enough where they can find a new home. Not sure if or who those will be but our class does have a lot of 'low ranked' commits for a potential 11-1 team. Obviously star rankings are not only barometer staff uses but I would still think some of the highlighted ones will be told to move on.

Your thoughts ?

 

[Chilmonty]

Every team does this. Not pretty but how the world works. Business or sports.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

I know this sounds horrible thing to do but with all the momentum and wins, will some of the lower ranked commits be told to look around ? It is early enough where they can find a new home. Not sure if or who those will be but our class does have a lot of 'low ranked' commits for a potential 11-1 team. Obviously star rankings are not only barometer staff uses but I would still think some of the highlighted ones will be told to move on.

Your thoughts ?

I don't think many will be dropped from our recruitment. Many of these are players who our coaches believe are good players and will be able to contribute to increasing our teams ability to win.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

I don't follow recruiting closely, but my understanding is that these kinds of adjustments happen all the time. At every top-end program.

So I would be surprised if it doesn't happen here, as well.

Having said that, I think Heupel & Co (as well as most other top-end coaching staffs) are smarter than the star-givers. I think it is entirely possible there are true five- or four-star talents hidden among those three-stars you circled. Guys who our coaching staff are HUGELY excited about, like big huge gold nuggets found panning, among the best in the nation at their position, just not recognized by 247 or ESPN or other grading sites.

And this is why I don't spend a lot of time on recruiting. I trust our coaches to know better than I do. I trust them to find the absolute best matches for our program. I don't even pretend to know anything they don't.

So if we see a young man, or more than one, suddenly drop his commitment with us to go find a spot somewhere else, I won't be surprised. Particularly if we just got a commitment for that same position group, or get one soon after the lad drops out.

I'll just sit back, calm, trusting our coaches really, really know what they're doing. Like 43,000 times as well as anyone on these boards. Heh.

Go Vols!

 

[IndianaVol]

There's a couple in that highlighted area that will stick around - I would think Umarov, Bussell, and Leacock for sure.
Elarbee was really high on the two OL and Golesh was big on Leacock.
Spillman's another that likely stays as he is very fast...like Squirrel White fast.

Unfortunately, the rest is a mixed bag and like you said some of them will be asked to look around or possibly consider a walk-on role.
This situation becomes even more critical if either UT or the NCAA hand down further scholarship reductions.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

So, you essentially just circled every single 3-star and asked us to give them the boot? Which tells me you don’t actually follow recruiting and just star gaze. Even Georgia and Alabama have some 3-stars in their classes and Rome wasn’t built overnight.

Recruiting is also about relationships, and you’re not going to see this possible 11-1 season change the ‘23 class much at all. It’s going to impact ‘24 and beyond.

P.S. Instead of complaining about kids that want to play for Tennessee, maybe go watch some of their film or read their stat lines. Leacock is a STUD and likely will get bumped to a 4-star since that is all that matters to you. Umarov is also a highly sought after OT.

 

[sjt18]

I know this sounds horrible thing to do but with all the momentum and wins, will some of the lower ranked commits be told to look around ? It is early enough where they can find a new home. Not sure if or who those will be but our class does have a lot of 'low ranked' commits for a potential 11-1 team. Obviously star rankings are not only barometer staff uses but I would still think some of the highlighted ones will be told to move on.

Your thoughts ?

Depends on how good the staff actually thinks they are and why they were willing to take a commit. Not sure where your list came from but Leacock has climbed.

I'm not really sure where your concern is. UT does not seem to have a space problem at the moment. UT's success appears to be having more impact on '24. I think AP even said that the 23 class is mostly "in the barn".

There are often 1 or 2 guys in a class that are asked to look around or their offer is changed to PWO or gray/blue shirt causing them to look around on their own. Happens at all schools almost every year.


IMHO, I think UT likes the guys they have committed and all for different reasons. Stallings seems to be the one on the bubble but... he's not gone. So now they are probably being very selective and will use any open scholarships to pursue guys in the portal. This season should have a lot of positive impact for UT with portal players.

 

[LittleVol]

There's a couple in that highlighted area that will stick around - I would think Umarov, Bussell, and Leacock for sure.
Elarbee was really high on the two OL and Golesh was big on Leacock.
Spillman's another that likely stays as he is very fast...like Squirrel White fast.

Unfortunately, the rest is a mixed bag and like you said some of them will be asked to look around or possibly consider a walk-on role.
This situation becomes even more critical if either UT or the NCAA hand down further scholarship reductions.

Stillman's brother is the top prospect in the State for 2024. He's not going anywhere.

Stallings according to AP is on.the chopping block perhaps.

 

[OldLofter]

So, you essentially just circled every single 3-star and asked us to give them the boot? Which tells me you don’t actually follow recruiting and just star gaze. Even Georgia and Alabama have some 3-stars in their classes and Rome wasn’t built overnight.

Recruiting is also about relationships, and you’re not going to see this possible 11-1 season change the ‘23 class much at all. It’s going to impact ‘24 and beyond.
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A lot of Volnation is assuming we are going to win out. Can we just take it one game at a time? I‘m pretty sure CJH and the team are.

 

[Vol8188]

There’s not a crappier thread topic possible

 

[LittleVol]

I know this sounds horrible thing to do but with all the momentum and wins, will some of the lower ranked commits be told to look around ? It is early enough where they can find a new home. Not sure if or who those will be but our class does have a lot of 'low ranked' commits for a potential 11-1 team. Obviously star rankings are not only barometer staff uses but I would still think some of the highlighted ones will be told to move on.

Your thoughts ?

This staff doesn't use star rankings at all lol.

That's stuff is for fans.

You literally just circled every 3 star.
And I'm not sure where you got that list but Weathersby and Leacock are 4 stars and top 150 players haha.

 

[VolunteerCeltic]

No, the coaches evaluated these prospects and offered them regardless of the number of stars. Players earn stars by the level of competition they play against, which colleges have offered them, camps they attend and perform at. Some players dont go to a lot of camps and are great players, but their star level will be somewhat held back. This coaching staff has proved they can develop, so IMHO, No we do not let these recruits go.

 

[TennEddie]

I’ll trust the coaching staff with their decisions.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

We have several three stars who are severely under ranked.

Heupel & the staff has shown they can develop players.

 

[VOLnFLA]

From everything I have read and seen the journalist that speak to these kids it's really helping us in the 2024 class not as much in the 2023 class. They said it's gna happen with a couple elites in the 2023, but ur gna see a huge step up with the recruits of the 2024 class

 

[volmandu]

So, you essentially just circled every single 3-star and asked us to give them the boot? Which tells me you don’t actually follow recruiting and just star gaze. Even Georgia and Alabama have some 3-stars in their classes and Rome wasn’t built overnight.

Recruiting is also about relationships, and you’re not going to see this possible 11-1 season change the ‘23 class much at all. It’s going to impact ‘24 and beyond.

P.S. Instead of complaining about kids that want to play for Tennessee, maybe go watch some of their film or read their stat lines. Leacock is a STUD and likely will get bumped to a 4-star since that is all that matters to you. Umarov is also a highly sought after OT.

Did you even read what I wrote or you just have a miserable life and were looking for online forum to vent out ? LOL .. I did not make any assumptions or said we should boot them. I do not know which one of those 3 stars are the ones staff really likes .. I made it clear in my post that staff uses their own barometer for judgement. I posted the image to see what Volnation thinks of some of the low rated commits and who might be told to look elsewhere.
Some posters here brought useful info to conversation like Spillman being fast, Urad and another OL being really liked by staff etc. You just decided to be a jerk, didnt you ?

 

[knoxvol52]

What a topic lol you got way to much time on your hands worrying about an issue like this

 

[TheMookieMonster]

Did you even read what I wrote or you just have a miserable life and were looking for online forum to vent out ? LOL .. I did not make any assumptions or said we should boot them. I do not know which one of those 3 stars are the ones staff really likes .. I made it clear in my post that staff uses their own barometer for judgement. I posted the image to see what Volnation thinks of some of the low rated commits and who might be told to look elsewhere.
Some posters here brought useful info to conversation like Spillman being fast, Urad and another OL being really liked by staff etc. You just decided to be a jerk, didnt you ?

You can say I’m the one being a jerk, but you made a post saying we should ask some “lower ranked” kids to move on. This staff has been great on evaluations so far, and I just think it’s a bit silly to not trust them. I also did bring you useful information you just chose to ignore it. Leacock and Umarov are likely 4-star bumps and Spillman is the brother of the #1 player in the state of Tennessee for 2024.

These kids chose to play at Tennessee when we were essentially a dumpster fire. Sorry if it rubs me the wrong way when people suggest we should cut and run from anyone who isn’t a 4-star or higher the moment we find some success.

 

[EconVol92]

Some kids are undervalued, just as some are overvalued.

I would say it depends upon the need at that position and the perceived ceiling of the recruit if they are told they might want to look somewhere else.

I also, think they allow the recruit to save face and just decommit after being told that there will not be a scholarship available for them.

It happens everywhere and every year and just kind of the dark side of the business.

 

[Daniel_Lincolns_Foot]

So, you essentially just circled every single 3-star and asked us to give them the boot? Which tells me you don’t actually follow recruiting and just star gaze. Even Georgia and Alabama have some 3-stars in their classes and Rome wasn’t built overnight.

Recruiting is also about relationships, and you’re not going to see this possible 11-1 season change the ‘23 class much at all. It’s going to impact ‘24 and beyond.

P.S. Instead of complaining about kids that want to play for Tennessee, maybe go watch some of their film or read their stat lines. Leacock is a STUD and likely will get bumped to a 4-star since that is all that matters to you. Umarov is also a highly sought after OT.

Also, if you look at Georgia's starters you'll find plenty of 3* out of high school. Those rankings can be so finicky and somewhat arbitrary, and to look at a 3* like they don't have the talent and potential to play at a high level is just silliness.

 

[volbound1700]

No... we still have more spots and I think some of these 3 stars are underrated.

 

[JBVolunteer]

The 2023 class is pretty much already in the books at this point. Tennessee’s success this year more positively impacts 2024 recruiting forward.

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

I know this sounds horrible thing to do but with all the momentum and wins, will some of the lower ranked commits be told to look around ? It is early enough where they can find a new home. Not sure if or who those will be but our class does have a lot of 'low ranked' commits for a potential 11-1 team. Obviously star rankings are not only barometer staff uses but I would still think some of the highlighted ones will be told to move on.

Your thoughts ?

OH, I see how this works.

Should VOL NATION run off posters who pose questions like this talking about giving GIT SHIRTS to players simply because of their position as graphically depicted at the bottom of a list? Bet we can replace them with better more productive fans and they can go find another program to attach themselves to.

Wonder how some of the more productive players on that list and their FOLKS feel about being included in this conversation?

Wonder if admins have ever considered adding an "don't like" button so the only offset potential is not replying like this. I always have a moral dilemma as to whether to just roll my eyes or post. Commits and their folks can't see anybody's eyerolls. Might really shorten some divisive posts just like the "like" button provides a cyber backslap without consuming board space.

 

[volbound1700]

The 2023 class is pretty much already in the books at this point. Tennessee’s success this year more positively impacts 2024 recruiting forward.

Disagree with OP but 2023 class isn't 100% completed for two reasons:

1. There are still about 25% of the prospects out there that have NOT committed yet.
2. No one has signed LOI yet.

 

[jeff1vol]

Whatever we do... we'd BETTER upgrade the talent in the trenches. The SEC is won or lost in the trenches. We need some stud DE's and DT's. LB is lacking in talent at this point as well. I believe we have some good talent coming in at DB, so that should be an improvement moving forward.