with good coaching this is a top 5 team

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FrozenLVFan said:
DeMoss left KY because she didn't want to be a head coach. She hated all the activities and responsibilities that went beyond actual coaching. She won't come back to Tenn as a head coach.

Caldwell is laughable. Her performance at LSU is far worse than Holly's here. Her recruiting ability has proven non-existent there.

When we finally go after a new head coach, it needs to be someone with proven head coaching experience, not another assistant coach.
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I agree on Caldwell.

Before a certain board went to Pay, there were several woman posters who stated vehemently that Caldwell should have been hired at UT "because she is a strong independent woman".

Translation: Caldwell should have been hired because she was pregnant and not married.

Some people sure do get crazy ideas into their heads.
 
#52
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Franklin Pierce said:
I agree on Caldwell.

Before a certain board went to Pay, there were several woman posters who stated vehemently that Caldwell should have been hired at UT "because she is a strong independent woman".

Translation: Caldwell should have been hired because she was pregnant and not married.

Some people sure do get crazy ideas into their heads.
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Do you really believe that is why fans wanted Nikki Caldwell to become the coach? If so you are correct, people do get crazy ideas in their heads.
 
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I do not believe UT is a Top 5 team no matter who is coaching the current roster of players. I said so when the first Poll came out.

They will be a better team when Harrison gets back, if she does, but there are no players on the team that can take over a game this season. Next season may be different if Diamond has a great attitude and works extremely hard.
 
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Moore plays only 15 minutes the last two games, what does Holly expect? She had the nerve to say Moore was not getting it done. How about Holly does she think she is getting it done? All she is doing is causing this young lady to lose confidence. Holly is a coaching train wreck. The Lady Vols need a new conductor on this train because it is about to derail. I am having a hard time dealing with this once proud program being stripped of what it has put in place. Lord please deliver us from Holly or give her a coaching brain.:banghead2:
 
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madtownvol said:
Do you really believe that is why fans wanted Nikki Caldwell to become the coach? If so you are correct, people do get crazy ideas in their heads.
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I only stated what was posted by more than one person, and it is an exact quote. But, I also believe her record at UCLA helped in their opinions.
 
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teacherdean said:
Moore plays only 15 minutes the last two games, what does Holly expect? She had the nerve to say Moore was not getting it done. How about Holly does she think she is getting it done? All she is doing is causing this young lady to lose confidence. Holly is a coaching train wreck. The Lady Vols need a new conductor on this train because it is about to derail. I am having a hard time dealing with this once proud program being stripped of what it has put in place. Lord please deliver us from Holly or give her a coaching brain.:banghead2:
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Yesterday I was screaming at Holly to bench Jasmine and bring in Nia. I am not a big fan of either player. Nothing personal, though.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
I only stated what was posted by more than one person, and it is an exact quote. But, I also believe her record at UCLA helped in their opinions.
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No, you "translated" the presumed statement. In fact, I don't recall many folks saying that Caldwell should be hired because she was "an independent woman." That sentiment had more to do with her role at Tennessee. She often came up with the innovative wrinkles in the offensive scheme that gave the LVs an edge, like moving Syd Spencer into the post during the LVs run to Championship # 7.

Caldwell also seemed to be a key mediator between the players and CPS and she was a great recruiter. And she quickly jump started a moribund UCLA program. I remain surprised that she has not had more success at LSU. Given that, I still think she might have been a better choice to replace CPS but the timing of the opening and Caldwell's move to LSU rendered that option moot.
 
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madtownvol said:
No, you "translated" the presumed statement. In fact, I don't recall many folks saying that Caldwell should be hired because she was "an independent woman." That sentiment had more to do with her role at Tennessee. She often came up with the innovative wrinkles in the offensive scheme that gave the LVs an edge, like moving Syd Spencer into the post during the LVs run to Championship # 7.

Caldwell also seemed to be a key mediator between the players and CPS and she was a great recruiter. And she quickly jump started a moribund UCLA program. I remain surprised that she has not had more success at LSU. Given that, I still think she might have been a better choice to replace CPS but the timing of the opening and Caldwell's move to LSU rendered that option moot.
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Believe what you want to believe.
 
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I listened to Holly's interview after the Longhorn wiping it sounded a lot like the interview after the Mocs wiping. Holly, we were outplayed, we were out hustled, we were not very good defensively, I guess we need to lose 4 games before we can understand defense. What she left out is, we were out coached. I had hope for Holly but right now she does not seem to know coaching from a hole in the ground or coaching from shineola. It looks pretty gloom from my viewpoint. :mf_surrender:
 
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UCMiami said:
Just some visitors thoughts - Hart really did not have much choice in hiring Holly. Holly was hired as Pat's choice and out of respect for Pat (as it should have been.) Any other hire would at the time have been pretty unthinkable. And the job she was handed was very tough - that transition year was impossible, and the next few years were going to be a constant comparison to a living legend, and not the previous few years that were not great but to the Parker years and the even more impressive 'Meke' years of the late 1990s.
For the purpose of that transition, Holly has done well - the recruiting is still solid and the teams have won the SEC and maintained top 10 rankings. Is she the answer long term? Honestly, I don't think so. I have no idea what her practices are like or how she works the team and the dynamic between coaching staff and players, but her press conferences and the way the team actually plays, and her substitution patterns ... they leave something to be desired. We fans talk about players having a 'high basketball IQ' but seldom if ever use those terms with coaches, but I think that is what I would use to critique Holly ... she does not have a high basketball IQ. She recognizes when things look right and when they look wrong, but she doesn't know either how to get from wrong to right or how to coach the practices to get 'right' more often than 'wrong' on the court.
So ... I do think TN needs to be looking for a new coach, and they do not need someone that has 'Pat's bloodlines' but rather someone with a proven track record as a head coach with high WBB IQ. While I understand the emotional appeal of Tyler, either 'waiting for him' or hiring him now would be a big mistake. Holly has provided a transition period and the next coach should provide a new beginning, not another homage to Pat.
(As a Uconn fan, I dread the transition that will be coming in a few years and we have the same mixture of sentimental desire for a Geno 'bloodline' replacement vs. just a really good high IQ coach.)
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UCMiami I think you hit it on the nail head. I to believe that Holly knows basketball but has a very low coaching IQ. I cannot lie and say Geno is one of my favorites, I do respect him, but he knows how to coach. Holly is still living in the past when the Lady Vols. could go inside whenever they wanted and dominate. That is no longer the case if anything we need to adopt Geno's coaching style. If UCONN can't get you inside they give you a dose of outside. We have the players to run that type of game but we have a hardheaded coach who wants to bring back the glory days. To win you have to change with the times and I don't mean just win but to win NCAA championships.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
So far this season, and I have not seen many games this season, For sure:
UCONN
A&M
UNC
DUKE
BAYLOR
USC
TEXAS
KENTUCKY
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I think you're confusing better "team" with better talent. I'll wager Tennessee sends more to the WNBA than all the above except UConn and possibly USC....
 
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Darth_Vol said:
Under Holly, they don't even look like a top 25 team right now.

Anyone who thinks this trainwreck is well-coached is delusional....
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now that's funny right there. poor coaching and slightly above average talent at best. top 20 maybe...
 
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Warlick is an absolute disaster. It is very obvious that she does not know what she is doing. She is not smart.Good coaches get maximium productivity out of their collection of talent; they meld the qualities of individual players and create a cohesive whole--the whole greater than sum of parts. Warlick & co.do the oopposite. The offense is an ill-concieved mess: it was obvious in first half that they were all indecisive and unsure of themselves--coaching. Not playing Moore more was indefensible. Does she really think that having Graves, Jones or Anybody going 1v1 while the rest of the team stands outside, doing nothing, is a smart offense? We need to find a sharp, experienced, dynamic coach to lead this proud program before the current coaching staff runs it into the ground. Yea, having superstars helps, but if you cant build a formidable team out of our talent you should be in another line of work. There are a hundred coaches out there who could be doing tons more with our talent. And, fyi,Geno runs a team offense built around passing, picks and player movement: they dont just throw it to one player and hope she can score.
 
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Holly is always using the excuse that the freshmen players need seasoning. Holly they are not turkeys they are players. Why is it that Texas trust two freshmen to play against the Lady Vols.? Why is it that Diamond D and three other freshmen started at University of North Carolina and went as far in the NCAAs as your team? Why does South Carolina trust two freshmen to play significant minutes? Are we only recruiting players who need seasoning? Just admit it, you are the turkey that needs seasoning.:thumbsup:
 
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#69
Time for Hart to pull out the checkbook and write that check to Jeff Walz... Only viable candidate who could take this program back to where it should be...
 
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pasadenavol said:
Time for Hart to pull out the checkbook and write that check to Jeff Walz... Only viable candidate who could take this program back to where it should be...
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I don't think Holly is going anywhere, but if she did I would love to have Jeff Walz. He loves it at Louisville though. Don't think he would leave.
 
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The problem at Tenn is disicipling the players. Because theyre not disciplined they're not coachable. That goes hand in hand. They do as they please because they are and were not taught what to do and how to do it. That is execution. So what has been happening at Tenn is give the ball to your top scorer and let her do her thing. Maybe she will pass the ball, maybe she'll shoot it or force a shot. Yeah we've seen a lot of that. IMO you teach the players what to do and how to execute plays and if they don't sit'em. Makes you wonder next season with DD and MR in the lineup if that is the game plan.




Tenn needs to rebuild their program. If the present coaching staff cant then replace them with a coach who can. However that brings up another problem. Pat is still being paid and so is Holly. That's a lot of money. So if you bring in a new coaching staff where does the money come from? Its not like a new coaching staff will fill the arena? Its already filled. That's a problem. So maybe the administration at Tenn is thinking why change coaching staffs when the arena is filled, just have an easier schedule and win games and the LV fans will think Tenn is great, then when Hollys contract runs out we can take a look at the coaching staff. By getting a couple of top players gives LV fans hope and with hope it puts fannies in the seats and bring money into the program. So next season DD and MR play and that's the hope LV fans need. IMO that really doesn't matter if you don't have a team. Basketball is a team game not and individual game and I suspect next season Tenn will have their hopes up again because DD and MR are in the lineup but there wont be a team. There will be individuals trying to win games by themselves.




If this season continues as it is for the LVs you've got to wonder what DD and MR are thinking.
 
#72
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FrozenLVFan said:
Caldwell is laughable. Her performance at LSU is far worse than Holly's here. Her recruiting ability has proven non-existent there.
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Actually, I think Nikki could succeed here. Nikki should have stayed at UCLA. She was recruiting better there. The LSU alums and fans don't care for her, and think her heart is at UT. I would tend to agree with that.

At the very least, maybe Caldwell can come back as an assistant and we can send useless ass Jolette Law out to pasture. I doubt very seriously that Nikki will last past this season at LSU.

Holly needs help. It's obvious that she isn't a great coach, but it doesn't help that her staff is weak. Outside of Dean, I don't think there's a competent coach on the bench. She needs to take a page out of Brenda Freese's book and hire a really good assistant or two (speaking of when Jeff Walz was at Maryland). Elzy was a defender at UT. So was Holly, for the most part. Law played for CViv at Iowa, for Christ sake. Not a damn soul on that bench knows jack crap about running an offense.
 
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Darth_Vol said:
I disagree, Burdick was a very good role player earlier in her career but has significantly regressed. With good coaching, I think she could have developed into a good player.
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Disagree. Burdick's shortcomings are not due to coaching. It is completely mental. Zero feel for the game. Zero basketball IQ. No court vision. Terrible decision maker. Those are things you just can't coach.
 
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tonyc said:
So what has been happening at Tenn is give the ball to your top scorer and let her do her thing. Maybe she will pass the ball, maybe she'll shoot it or force a shot.....If this season continues as it is for the LVs you've got to wonder what DD and MR are thinking.
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No, that is really not what is happening.

Per DD and MR, I would imagine that they are thinking, "hey, when we get going, we are going to lead this team to great things."

Always nice to hear the perspective of UCONN fan....
 
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Warlick needs to bring in a wise offensive mind--as a consultant, as a friend, whatever--and get some help retooling our offense. Because she and her staff are not cabable of doing it--they've proved that. Early in the game against texas, you could see that we had no sense of purpose of offense; the team was rather tentative, players looked like they weren't sure what to do with the ball; players standing around and watching someone go free-lance and throw up a bad shot. It is the same thing we've been seeing for years--especially in the first half. Then, when we fall behind by 12, we seem to relax and play better and with more purpose, but that's not how you beat good teams. You can't come out and stink up the joint for 20 minutes and expect to beat any decent team, and we've done that a lot in recent years.
 
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