woolridge video violation?

#76
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LawVol13 said:
Nobody put words in your mouth. He said the highlighted portion of the post that you strongly agreed with was a lie. Therefore, you fit right in as a Pearl supporter.
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I lied? Really? So, the NCAA was just at the Hyatt and said, "Hey, while we're here, let's screw with Kiffin, too. You know, just for kicks."

I said nothing about Pearl in my post and, yes, the NCAA did come here to investigate Kiffin's actions, also. So, once again, we have a manipulation of people's words by hat, a common occurrence.

Of course, he'll just ignore this and plow through with his point as if his statement was never shown as BS, like any good lawyer, I guess.

So, please tell me where the highlighted part, which was my statement, was a lie. And, is being a "Pearl Supporter" some kind of epithet now? Kind of like being a leper?
 
#77
#77
hatvol96 said:
So, you agree with a patent lie. You really are a Pearl supporter. The 'AA was investigating the Pearl stuff before Kiffin was ever hired. That's an inconvenient truth for you.
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Ah, a manipulation of my statement, nice lawyering there. Pearl was first, so they were just hanging out around town for Kiffin, huh?

No, my statement regarded Kiffin bringing the NCAA here for his own actions. It isn't like they have an office here. The baseball team brought the NCAA here as well.

It really isn't a difficult statement to comprehend.
 
#78
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Unimane said:
I said nothing about Pearl in my post and, yes, the NCAA did come here to investigate Kiffin's actions, also. So, once again, we have a manipulation of people's words by hat, a common occurrence.
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That's what I took from your comment as well. I thought you were implying that Kiffin brought the NCAA to campus which caused the uncovering of Pearl's transgressions. Obviously, if that's not what you were meaning, we have no disagreement.
 
#79
#79
Hell, now that I think about it, the 3 year flameout prediction might have been made in Spring of '09. I like it even better if that's right. The mods will have to dig through the archives of deleted threads to find it. Of course, we could just use Unimane's join date as the guidepost.
 
#80
#80
wildnkrazykat said:
participating in college athletics isn't a right. it is the responsibility of the student athlete to refuse opportunities like these
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Suppose Woolrich did not approach the business as an athlete. Suppose he approached them as an aspiring artist. Why should he not be able to pursue a dream independent of his current status as an athlete? That other adults (business owner, athletic department, etc.) mischaracterized the situation only indicates the depth ... errr, sorry, shallowness of their thinking.

The NCAA is overreaching in a number of their rules (regulating private property of "athletes," for instance), in reaction to egregious cheating no doubt (important to note: nearly all of this by greedy adults seeking advantage), but regardless, any person in this country has a right to pursue his or her dreams.
 
#81
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hatvol96 said:
That's exactly what he meant. Now, as per his usual, he'll back off and say it's all about Pearl's performance on the court and nothing else. He made a fool of himself defending Pearl when people here characterized him as the moral cesspool he is. It's obvious the clowns on the staff want to deflect attention from the pathetic performance this weekend, McRae's suspension, and MC Woolridge's little dustup. If you notice, the only time the formerly ardent members of the Hallelujah Choir show up now is when Pearl and his bunglers are getting it from all sides. Gee, now that I think about it, I hope they come back for good. I'd love to hear how stupid my prediction in the Spring of '08 that Pearl would flameout in three years looks right now. Garbage reaches its deserved level. That's what we are witnessing.
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I agree with this. I think it's curious that Unimane acts as if Kiffin is on the same level as Pearl. I guess I forgot when he engaged in a large scale coverup of intentional recruiting violations. I'm sick of the excuse making for Pearl.
 
#82
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LawVol13 said:
I agree with this. I think it's curious that Unimane acts as if Kiffin is on the same level as Pearl. I guess I forgot when he engaged in a large scale coverup of intentional recruiting violations. I'm sick of the excuse making for Pearl.
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For some reason, this came to mind when I thought about the fervor of Pearl defense brought to the table by the Hallelujah Choir: www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkEl_R0dTfY.
 
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LawVol13 said:
I agree with this. I think it's curious that Unimane acts as if Kiffin is on the same level as Pearl. I guess I forgot when he engaged in a large scale coverup of intentional recruiting violations. I'm sick of the excuse making for Pearl.
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Ok, within the space of a few posts, you went from understanding what I meant to stepping back in line with what hat states about my post.

I suggest both of you read it again and stop misrepresenting my words. The parties mentioned in my post were Kiffin, Woolridge and the UT compliance department. Hell, hat went into an entire diatribe about Pearl that I am supposively saying in my post and I never even mention nor reference Pearl in my post. I shouldn't have to explain reading comprehension to the self-proclaimed Mensa President of Volnation.

Plus, if you think I've made excuses for Pearl, then you are misrepresenting my words once more. I made a few pretty lengthy posts about not caring about the transgressions in terms of whether he's a good guy or whatever. I said, either he's good for the program or not and should be judged accordingly.

Personally, I don't give a damn if you disagree with me about my views. I'll simply debate those ideas, but it pisses me off to constantly have words and ideas put into my mouth that I never expressed. Hat does it because he's an egomaniac who will manipulate in order to not say he's wrong. We, on the other hand, generally get along, so please don't go and ruin that mutual respect by butchering my statements.
 
#85
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Unimane said:
Yeah, good call on this one. Defend the guy (Kiffin) who kept us in the news with violations and brought the NCAA to town and criticize the department (UT Compliance) that has kept the NCAA off our back for many years as well as (indirectly) a kid (Woolridge)who did nothing wrong.

Never fails, though, that you'll step and fetch for your favorites, no matter the leaps in logic it requires, while searching for the most negative angle possible on others.
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Just for reference, hat, can you tell me where I mention Pearl here or compare him to Kiffin? (I added the bold parts for clarification) I'd love to hear where your brilliant reasoning is on this one after that unusually long post from you about things I said, but really didn't, about Pearl.

My guess is that you'll do the same thing you always do when myself (or anyone else) has proven you wrong, cower in the corner, put me on ignore again or make up some words I didn't actually write. Don't worry, I know you wouldn't actually stoop to saying you're wrong.
 
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Unimane said:
Ok, within the space of a few posts, you went from understanding what I meant to stepping back in line with what hat states about my post.
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No, I said if that's not what you meant, then we don't disagree. I just find it curious that you cite Kiffin as having "brought the NCAA to town." If you honestly were not implying that this was the cause of the Pearl fiasco, then I don't disagree with what you were saying. But, to be honest, what you are now saying just sounds like backtracking after you've been called out.
 
#87
#87
I guess the NCAA ignored the Facebook post inviting all the fine booty *****es and dudes with flat bills to RT's... They should also ignore the football players smoking blunts on the inside, but thats a different issue.
 
#88
#88
Again, everything I have read/heard suggests that the investigation into the basketball program started AFTER Kiffin was hired. Anyone wanna show me something that says otherwise?
 
#89
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I said this regarding the latter half of Unimane's post:
Chris4Vols22 said:
I don't know about the Kiffin thing, but this is very well said. I agree 100%
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Then hatvol says (out of nowhere):
hatvol96 said:
So, you agree with a patent lie. You really are a Pearl supporter. The 'AA was investigating the Pearl stuff before Kiffin was ever hired. That's an inconvenient truth for you.
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No one mentioned Pearl and that's why I was so baffled to hat's response. How could you misconstrue Uni's statement, especially after he spells it out for you? I think some people here are trying to backtrack now, but it's not Unimane.
 
#90
#90
Chris4Vols22 said:
I said this regarding the latter half of Unimane's post:


Then hatvol says (out of nowhere):


No one mentioned Pearl and that's why I was so baffled to hat's response. How could you misconstrue Uni's statement, especially after he spells it out for you? I think some people here are trying to backtrack now, but it's not Unimane.
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You're pretty dense if you missed Unimane's implication (which he now denies). But, I can't say I'm shocked you did.
 
#91
#91
Unimane said:
Just for reference, hat, can you tell me where I mention Pearl here or compare him to Kiffin? (I added the bold parts for clarification) I'd love to hear where your brilliant reasoning is on this one after that unusually long post from you about things I said, but really didn't, about Pearl.

My guess is that you'll do the same thing you always do when myself (or anyone else) has proven you wrong, cower in the corner, put me on ignore again or make up some words I didn't actually write. Don't worry, I know you wouldn't actually stoop to saying you're wrong.
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Please, I want to hear it too.
 
#93
#93
I suggest everyone arguing form teams and play a basketball game to 21. If that doesn't work then you can always blow each other.
 
#95
#95
LawVol13 said:
You're pretty dense if you missed Unimane's implication (which he now denies). But, I can't say I'm shocked you did.
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Dammit, I posted it twice. I explained it three times. I highlighted the exact people I was referring. The damn thread is about Woolridge, not Pearl, and the comment was made about Kiffin, not Pearl, by hat.

I really don't know why it is so difficult to comprehend and it's certainly not backtracking to point out exactly what I have written. My god.

One more time. The implication was that he was defending Kiffin and saying the UT compliance department was incompetant, while taking a sideswipe at...er, Swiperboy. I addressed those people.

If it's really that difficult, read it a few more times. At some point, it must sink in.
 
#96
#96
I think it's more of Hat putting words in peoples' mouths. He did it to me, then Uni, and now Hat and Law are practicing the Uni Postulate:
You step and fetch for your favorites, no matter the leaps in logic it requires, while searching for the most negative angle possible on others.
 
#97
#97
Chris4Vols22 said:
I think it's more of Hat putting words in peoples' mouths. He did it to me, then Uni, and now Hat and Law are practicing the Uni Postulate:
You step and fetch for your favorites, no matter the leaps in logic it requires, while searching for the most negative angle possible on others.
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You and Unimaine take it too personally.
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#99
#99
Unimane said:
Wrong, again. I said he was a great coach and didn't give a damn about his being a "great guy". I made a big deal about it, but you probably didn't read it because you had me on ignore. Yet, somehow, you remain some kind of authority. Once agan, either read my posts, or don't comment on the random bits you get without knowing context. Most of the people here have the balls to not use the ignore button and read the posts of people they don't agree with.

As far as Pearl, I said he was a great coach and would win us games. Tell me where I was wrong? You said he wouldn't last because he would lose games and was wrong. You lucked into the violations and are now trying to claim this is what you said all along, as is typical.
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Awful tiring responding to someone who has you on ignore, eh Unimaine?
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#100
#100
NYYVol said:
Awful tiring responding to someone who has you on ignore, eh Unimaine?
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Not really. He always manages to find a way to do so for me. I just find it interesting that he's made a big scene of ignoring me and then continuously makes statements directed towards me.

On the other hand, why do you never bother to comment on the content of the discussion when I point out hat's false statements? It seems that you comment on my content when you disagree, but only comment on my addressing him when I point out something false he said. Why?
 
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