Workers are applying for jobs left and right, but hearing nothing back

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AshG said:
Why everybody’s hiring but nobody’s getting hired

Sure there are jobs a plenty open all over the place, but many of the people applying for them are either hearing nothing back or are being offered much less than the job listings promised.
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It took nearly six months for Healy, who has a decade of experience in industrial design, to find a new job. Meanwhile, headlines touted a record number of job openings, and many employers said they were doing everything in their power to entice potential employees.
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Industrial design?? WTF is that? Is he a mechanical engineer? Why not just say that?

Arlethia Washington, who worked as a legal secretary in New York for 40 years, took an exit package from her job early in the pandemic and, given her experience, assumed she’d be able to easily find a new position after things reopened. Instead, she found herself in a maze: It was hard to tell if recruiters who reached out about jobs were serious. For a lot of positions, she just didn’t hear back, or somewhere in the process, she’d be screened out.

Washington, 68, chalks it up to a combination of age discrimination and not having a college degree, which many positions were requiring even when it didn’t seem necessary. When she did get replies, jobs would offer her much less than what she was paid before, sometimes even less than what was advertised. Or, they would offer to pay her requested hourly rate — but only for part-time work. “It was a grand opportunity to push the secretarial opportunities and incomes back,” she said.
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The pandemic has also made the specter of in-person work less attractive — if not dangerous — so many people are now looking for jobs where they can work from home. The vast majority of workers, regardless of industry, say they want to work from home at least some of the time. While the number of remote jobs has certainly risen, they still only represent 16 percent of job listings on LinkedIn, though they receive two and a half times as many applications as non-remote work.
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Being picky. Someone has to work at the salt mine or in the chicken factory. Not every job can be an at home job.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Not everyone is meant for a white collar job just like not everyone has the skills to do certain blue collar jobs. Neither is better or worse than the other, they’re just different paths with the same goal. I’d be very proud if one of my boys became an electrician, welder, or whatever. As long as it provides a living and they are happy then all is good!
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My son is in his freshman year in College on TN Promise. He has a couple friends went straight to construction. Making unheard of money for 18 year olds fresh out of school with no real work history just starting out. One makes $20/hr. The other banks about $1300 a week. He's remarked a couple times why is he going to school. Well, you wanted to go into Ag like your Grandfather and brother. And you should atleast complete the two years offered by TN Promise since you have academic capacities. During which time you can decide what you really want to do the next 50 years. I'm very thankful for construction workers, but most that are 40 look 60.
 
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allvol123 said:
Still believe this is a nonsense headline.

I bet I could get 5 job offers in a week, just using online sites.
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Not really. My wife works in the local school system as a teacher aide. she also has several years in a couple of the offices at TnTech, a Lawyer's office, a mobile home sales office, etc. She has applied to nearly every receptionist job that has come up locally in dentist offices, doctor's offices, etc. Not one single response. She meets qualifications listed, she is one of those that everyone likes, and some of these jobs have been reposted.
 
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AshG said:
The inducement to stay home is over. It's time to stop blaming everything on laziness and suckling on the government's tit and consider other reasons employment hasn't bounced back.
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Who's doing that? I didn't see where the article indicated FedEx was blaming it on laziness, suckling the govt teet, etc. FedEx is a solid company to work for. Pays well, advancement opportunities, medical insurance, retirement plans, etc. I don't know, maybe not enough people can pass a drug test these days to drive trucks, tugs, belt loaders, K-loaders or operate the systems within their sort facilities. What reasons are you suggesting?
 
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Vol737 said:
Who's doing that? I didn't see where the article indicated FedEx was blaming it on laziness, suckling the govt teet, etc. FedEx is a solid company to work for. Pays well, advancement opportunities, medical insurance, retirement plans, etc. I don't know, maybe not enough people can pass a drug test these days to drive trucks, tugs, belt loaders, K-loaders or operate the systems within their sort facilities. What reasons are you suggesting?
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It's amazing to me how many guys with CDLs act surprised when told they have to take a pre-employment drug screen and how many come back hot.
 
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hog88 said:
It's amazing to me how many guys with CDLs act surprised when told they have to take a pre-employment drug screen and how many come back hot.
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I knew of one of our guys that had a side business around NOLA. It involved having a fleet of trucks, may have been a dumpster/waste business, something along those lines, but he would thoroughly warn one of his drivers he was going to get tested next week and what day that would be, nothing random about it. And his employee would respond, "yeah, that's not going to be a good day for me."
 
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Vol737 said:
Who's doing that? I didn't see where the article indicated FedEx was blaming it on laziness, suckling the govt teet, etc.
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Not the article. Just wait, the people who can't see beyond those two excuses will show up soon. And loudly.
 
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AshG said:
Why everybody’s hiring but nobody’s getting hired

Sure there are jobs a plenty open all over the place, but many of the people applying for them are either hearing nothing back or are being offered much less than the job listings promised.
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If you’re applying after being out of work the last year & a half, you’re probably not going to get a call very quickly. Employers realize if you’ve sat on your ass collecting govt money all this time, you’re most likely a lazy SOB anyway and they don’t want you. This is what my clients have told me. TIFWIW
 
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AshG said:
Not the article. Just wait, the people who can't see beyond those two excuses will show up soon. And loudly.
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To be honest, I don't know if there is still and how much stimulus money out there floating around. I heard discussion of another round the other day, not sure if it's a serious discussion. It would not be out of the realm of possibility that a year plus of stimulus is still having some influence on the job market. The FedEx article was of interest to me since 1) I have several friends that work for them and are quite happy in their job and 2) knowing what their pay and benefits are, it's hard to imagine FedEx having a hard time filling those positions. If there's been a positive in the past year with adjusting to market and labor conditions, it's that a large number of companies have bumped up their compensation and benefits packages to attract workers.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Did you read the whole article? You know, did you get to the bottom part where people are applying for jobs where they clearly have no experience or skills to match up? There’s a plethora of reasons listed more than your one sided hot take.
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Indeed…but the lack of qualifications apparently weren’t an issue for the President last November 😂
 
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Vol737 said:
knowing what their pay and benefits are, it's hard to imagine FedEx having a hard time filling those positions.
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I'd bet those employee shortages are on the material handler jobs. Sorting packages, driving equipment, loading trucks/planes. I doubt they're having a shortage on education required/skilled positions. That Portland example from the article sounds like they don't have enough sort employees to process the volume they need.

I'm wondering where all the people that quit, changed jobs, or would have taken one of those jobs......where did they go to instead that's left such an employee shortage. It isn't just Portland I'm sure. Or Fedex as everyone sees help needed signs.

The problem (one that may be getting worse, per FedEx)? Finding humans to accept jobs in a very tight labor market even at higher rates than what the specific job would have paid months ago.
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What are those people doing now instead for money?
 
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TheDeeble said:
I'd bet those employee shortages are on the material handler jobs. Sorting packages, driving equipment, loading trucks/planes. I doubt they're having a shortage on education required/skilled positions. That Portland example from the article sounds like they don't have enough sort employees to process the volume they need.

I'm wondering where all the people that quit, changed jobs, or would have taken one of those jobs......where did they go to instead that's left such an employee shortage. It isn't just Portland I'm sure. Or Fedex as everyone sees help needed signs.


What are those people doing now instead for money?
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Which is why I posed the question of ability to pass a drug test. After all, it is Portland. Regardless of locale though, to be in any of those jobs, I know they require one as a condition of employment and then randomized throughout employment. Your last question is the big mystery. Some of the best, well paying companies are hiring and they can't fill the positions. You would think people would be lining up around the block.
 
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AshG said:
The inducement to stay home is over. It's time to stop blaming everything on laziness and suckling on the government's tit and consider other reasons employment hasn't bounced back.
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I have seen a large uptick in applicant flow over the last three weeks. Very pleased. Curious if it has anything to do with the end of the eviction moratorium
 
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On a personal note, even though I've never been on the receiving end of it I believe "Work at Will" laws are crappy ways to enable crappy employers to be crappy human beings. If you're not going to tell an employee why you're cutting they're hours or letting them go, you don't deserve to be in business.
 
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