would you be for a southern country?

#26
#26
can anyone point out any benefits that a Southern country would provide? Maybe the OP can help since it's his homework

Very low taxes. A return to federalism. Serious reduction of federal programs and benefits. Common sense environmental protection. Pro free enterprise environment.

You would more than likely see most states adopt some sort of school privatization or voucher system. Gov't would not likely be hostile to religious expression in the public marketplace.

IMHO, it would mean an end to the creeping socialism/statism that has occurred over the last 100 years or so.
 
#29
#29
no the topic was less freedom and it would happen with a Southern state

pj, seriously. Here's the post I was addressing:

The government has restrictions on a lot of things that people notice less and less...because they've grown accustomed to it.

Pretty safe to assume he was referring to the federal gov't and I asked him to explain. It was about the federal gov't, not state governments. I can buy beer or liquor on Sunday. Oh, and I live in the South.
 
#30
#30
no the topic was less freedom and it would happen with a Southern state

Disagree with that. A small gov't regardless of what it might "like" to do is a smaller threat than a big gov't with the best of intentions.

IMHO, you fear the wrong people when you target religious people.
 
#31
#31
Very low taxes. A return to federalism. Serious reduction of federal programs and benefits. Common sense environmental protection. Pro free enterprise environment.

how would states that receive the most federal aid be able to get away with very low taxes?

You would more than likely see most states adopt some sort of school privatization or voucher system. Gov't would not likely be hostile to religious expression in the public marketplace.

hostile? They would outright promote it! Freedom of religion would only exist as long as you chose one

IMHO, it would mean an end to the creeping socialism/statism that has occurred over the last 100 years or so.

I disagree with this completely. It would not have the ability to sustain itself
 
#40
#40
I made a joke, and seem to be missing this one. Where's OE to clear up the confusion.
 
#41
#41
how would states that receive the most federal aid be able to get away with very low taxes?
Reduce or eliminate many of the mandated programs.

In many states, the biggest expense is the public school system. IIRC, we as a nation pay around $10,000 per student for that system. A voucher system could perform the same function and likely better for less than half.

And by "aid" I assume you mean direct transfer payments, right? I would not look for wealth transfers to be nearly as generous as they now are.

Finally, new boundaries would cause a re-structuring by companies of where profit centers sit.... of where to locate manufacturing and other business locations. Companies have moved to the south and midwest from other areas recently to avoid high taxes and regulations. That would only intensify if federal taxes and restrictions were reduced.

hostile? They would outright promote it! Freedom of religion would only exist as long as you chose one
You seriously believe that? Wow. That is VERY unlikely.... but if it occurred... it would not be imposed on individual states. You are WAY too paranoid about this. I probably know alot more of the type of Christian you "fear" than you do... the vast majority are VERY "mind your business/mind my business" types of people. They do not object to you believing whatever it is you want to believe or doing whatever you want to do as long as you don't try to impose your beliefs on them and keep your activities to yourself. Show respect and get it.

I disagree with this completely. It would not have the ability to sustain itself

Of course it would. The bottom line problem we have as a nation now is that too many are being supported by too few. A low tax, pro-business, stable country would attract business rather than pushing it out. Limited or no social programs for able bodied people would provide alot of motivation to work.
 
#44
#44
they would be the gov't

Most of the founders were practicing Christians with beliefs that we would consider "fundamentalist"... they enshrined the freedom of religion ideal that you are so concerned about. I very seriously doubt you have anything to fear from gov't officials who go to church and ascribe to values such as respect for people, honesty, et al.

You might be surprised at how "libertarian" many fundamentalists are. Most do not like nor trust gov't.
 
#47
#47
Most of the founders were practicing Christians with beliefs that we would consider "fundamentalist"... they enshrined the freedom of religion ideal that you are so concerned about. I very seriously doubt you have anything to fear from gov't officials who go to church and ascribe to values such as respect for people, honesty, et al.

You might be surprised at how "libertarian" many fundamentalists are. Most do not like nor trust gov't.

many were deists and some even atheists who were very careful to keep religion and politics separate. Even the most fanatical among them knew this was the right thing to do. A Southern state would be a step backwards in this regard. And yes, there is very much to fear from officials who would have to use their religion to get elected and owe their people
 
#48
#48
I think it's safe to say there are enough 'fundamentalists' who support social restrictions. Perry is one.
 
#49
#49
Alcohol won't do nothin for that anyway. It will be there when you sober up.:)

I thought ya'll (your wife) had given birth already. Did I hear it was a girl?

I wish she had but not quite yet. We're having a boy
 

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