Would you want Bruce Pearl back? [Pearl discussion — merged]

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StuckinBama said:
I’ve just always wondered what Pearl served at that bar-b-que and if it was any good; b/c it was shortly after that fateful day when he was scape-goated into oblivion and stabbed in the back (Bet it was better than McDonald’s bags and cash). Simply, all because our administration and boosters couldn’t get their sh*t together over turmoil elsewhere;
I blame Albert Means, Mike Hamilton and the gas station owner guy..


but Anywho’s...

Fact of the matter is that he is the winningest coach we’ve had since most of us have been alive, and we should probably throw the kitchen sink at him to return(Imagine marketing the return of the king), also I hear a D.White loves marketing.

Lastly, Lawwwd knows Pearl wants to be here. Loop back to this post when he gets emotional, once again, after he stomps our ass here in Knoxville again on February 26. 🤷‍♂️

Then, Tell me Nick Saban never had bbq’s. 😒
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I think it’s how you view what in life is most important to you. Many are fine with cheating and busting the establishment. Not surprisingly, they then bust the chops of others who go with holding people accountable for truth and integrity. I would rather win honestly than win while knowing I took liberties with rules to gain advantages (that I cheated). The big picture is much more important than winning a game, at least to me.
 
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Texas is paying Chris Beard five million a year for having one (really) good year at Texas Tech. Coaching wages in general are off the rails to the extent that it’s probably not even worth it for a fan to factor that in to whether they’re happy with their coach. As to Barnes, hiring him when Texas parted ways with him was an absolute no brainer decision and we’re in far better shape now than we were before the hire. This team hasn’t peaked yet; I’d rather see that happen in about a month.
 
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Fascinating that a loss to Kentucky causes brings out the Pearlites, but they can't remember that Pearl was abysmal against Kentucky (4-9 overall, 1-4 against Calipari).
 
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Tennessee Vols Fan!!!! said:
Thought?
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No, he had his chance and blew it over a BBQ, whatever he is doing at Auburn, works for Auburn. Recruiting is a crapshoot, sometimes 5* and 4* need to grow up. What worked in HS, doesn't always work in College, either get your attitude adjusted or move on. UT Players have the skills, their problem? is a lack of belief they have in themselves and try to be "the man" on the court and forgot it's a team sport.
 
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No, Pearl is cut from the same cloth as Will Wade.....there was a lot more going on with Pearl while he was here than just lying about BBQs
 
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This could be Auburn's what 2nd final four in 3 yrs. TN has never made it once. Yes Bruce made a bad decision to lie to the NCAA but he was just trying to recruit a good kid, who went on to star at O. State. He messed up but he is not the slime ball criminal some of you are making him out to be. He has not done anything in recruiting than a lot of other schools do. Its the same cesspool for everyone.

Pearl's teams play very exciting BB Auburn is very happy to have him. No consistency issues there. Yes we have a good coach but he will not get us to level Pear has Auburn.
 
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VolunteerCeltic said:
No, Pearl is cut from the same cloth as Will Wade.....there was a lot more going on with Pearl while he was here than just lying about BBQs
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Absolutely. Pure slime and how anybody pro UT would want that POS **** back is beyond me. Let’s not forget that UT was actually going to stand behind him despite popular opinion here. He had agreed to a pay cut, a one year recruiting ban, and a few other things. And then other things surfaced (including a 3 year show cause and some big time issues with failed drug tests (Brian Williams)

Go ask Jason Shay and his wife about him. Or Steve Forbes. Particularly the stories about when the crap hit the fan. You can probably Google one story concerning the Shay’s.

He was a POS in the Deon Thomas deal. And a POS as a person at UT. And a POS at Auburn. The stench follows him everywhere he goes.
 
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Success in sports is obtained in different ways. I guess it depends on how tolerant schools are to obtain it. Seems with all the Barnes bashing going on right now, a lot of TN BB fans are not happy with Barnes ceiling level of success so what's the answer?
 
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Auburn is among the most NCAA-sanctioned schools in the nation. He's in the perfect place for himself. Zero oversight, a wealthy, corrupt donor base, and a slew of bagmen.
 
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MadisonvilleVol said:
Absolutely. Pure slime and how anybody pro UT would want that POS **** back is beyond me. Let’s not forget that UT was actually going to stand behind him despite popular opinion here. He had agreed to a pay cut, a one year recruiting ban, and a few other things. And then other things surfaced (including a 3 year show cause and some big time issues with failed drug tests (Brian Williams)

Go ask Jason Shay and his wife about him. Or Steve Forbes. Particularly the stories about when the crap hit the fan. You can probably Google one story concerning the Shay’s.

He was a POS in the Deon Thomas deal. And a POS as a person at UT. And a POS at Auburn. The stench follows him everywhere he goes.
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He’s the type of person to f*** somebody else over to save himself from trouble.

The ONLY reason why he was sorry for what he did cause he got caught.

Those fake tears wasn’t fooling anybody.
 
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Took me a while to get over an ex-girlfriend too once. As soon as I realized that she wasn't actually into our relationship despite how hot she was and the words she stated I was finally able to move on. It took a few years but I found someone who valued me and actually wanted to be with me for me, not just for them.

(See now, I'm using this as a parable...)
 
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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
I have to disagree. This program is at a great level now. Rick Barnes has established Tennessee Basketball as a premier program in the SEC...let alone the country. This season is frustrating sure with the sputtering offense....I get that. This team has the talent and athleticism to get hot and make a deep run in the tournament if it can click on the offensive side of the ball. As for paying a top tier basketball coach....we have already showed the elite head coaches in the country we will step up to the plate with the $$$$$$$$...



List of top 20 highest paid college basketball coaches in 2021

He is currently the 5th highest paid head coach in college basketball. The program is solid now. We would throw money at the right guy....AD White ain't scared guy.
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Let's have an honest conversation about Barnes, he's had 1 good season. Hell Jerry Green made the NCAA tourney every year here, so let's not act like he set the bar for success here. If anything given his recruiting he's underachieving
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Let's have an honest conversation about Barnes, he's had 1 good season. Hell Jerry Green made the NCAA tourney every year here, so let's not act like he set the bar for success here. If anything given his recruiting he's underachieving
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Look at Barne's SEC record since Grant and Admiral graduated, not very good at all!
 
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ArmchairQB said:
Texas is paying Chris Beard five million a year for having one (really) good year at Texas Tech. Coaching wages in general are off the rails to the extent that it’s probably not even worth it for a fan to factor that in to whether they’re happy with their coach. As to Barnes, hiring him when Texas parted ways with him was an absolute no brainer decision and we’re in far better shape now than we were before the hire. This team hasn’t peaked yet; I’d rather see that happen in about a month.
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Exactly. Coaching salaries are so irrelevant. I don't have any higher/lower expectations for our basketball coach regardless of whether he's making $2 million, or $5 million. I expect him to win basketball games and keep out of NCAA trouble.

I only get concerned about coaching salaries when I believe a talented coach to be underpaid relative to his contemporaries and a threat to leave for a higher salary elsewhere. If it takes overpaying a successful coach to retain him, what do I care? It isn't my money.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Exactly. Coaching salaries are so irrelevant. I don't have any higher/lower expectations for our basketball coach regardless of whether he's making $2 million, or $5 million. I expect him to win basketball games and keep out of NCAA trouble.

I only get concerned about coaching salaries when I believe a talented coach to be underpaid relative to his contemporaries and a threat to leave for a higher salary elsewhere. If it takes overpaying a successful coach to retain him, what do I care? It isn't my money.
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Define successful? We've seen mediocre success with Barnes, he had 1 great season and it's been a struggle ever since.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Let's have an honest conversation about Barnes, he's had 1 good season. Hell Jerry Green made the NCAA tourney every year here, so let's not act like he set the bar for success here. If anything given his recruiting he's underachieving
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"Good season" is just so vague and subjective. I'd say he's had two good seasons, both of which ended in unlucky fashion in the NCAAT a round earlier than most had hoped. However, I can at least respect the idea that some people clearly value the postseason infinitely more than the regular season. While I understand that it is a tournament sport, I also realize that the regular season has value and that the NCAAT is largely dependent on luck, good fortune, a good draw, and team health; primarily things out of an individual team's control. Hard for me to judge, and toss out an entire 4-5 month season based solely on a three-week span in March with that many uncontrolled variables.

I can be disappointed with the end result and still have enjoyed the ride to get there, but that is probably based in the idea that we e never experienced great success in the NCAAT. So at the same time, I can understand Duke and Kentucky fans being disappointed with failing to advance beyond the S16.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Let's have an honest conversation about Barnes, he's had 1 good season. Hell Jerry Green made the NCAA tourney every year here, so let's not act like he set the bar for success here. If anything given his recruiting he's underachieving
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Jerry Green was pretty good here.
 
#73
#73
Barnes is your best bet and we won't get anyone better than him. With that being said I LOVED some Bruce Pearl and the energy was never better than with him. I wanted them to bring him back after his suspension was over, but of course they weren't going to. It's another one of those just heartbreaking turn of events in recent UT history that set us back for years to come.
 
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cncchris33 said:
"Good season" is just so vague and subjective. I'd say he's had two good seasons, both of which ended in unlucky fashion in the NCAAT a round earlier than most had hoped. However, I can at least respect the idea that some people clearly value the postseason infinitely more than the regular season. While I understand that it is a tournament sport, I also realize that the regular season has value and that the NCAAT is largely dependent on luck, good fortune, a good draw, and team health; primarily things out of an individual team's control. Hard for me to judge, and toss out an entire 4-5 month season based solely on a three-week span in March with that many uncontrolled variables.

I can be disappointed with the end result and still have enjoyed the ride to get there, but that is probably based in the idea that we e never experienced great success in the NCAAT. So at the same time, I can understand Duke and Kentucky fans being disappointed with failing to advance beyond the S16.
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But so many are acting like we struck gold with Barnes, like he is the pinnacle of success here when in fact he's been pretty middle of the road in standards of UT basketball. Rick Barnes is a prime example of how wasteful this University has been with money, it's deeper than just his salary, it exposes another issue. Hoping for brighter days under Danny White and next time Rick comes calling for a raise tell him to kick rocks
 
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-WillthaThrill- said:
Barnes is your best bet and we won't get anyone better than him. With that being said I LOVED some Bruce Pearl and the energy was never better than with him. I wanted them to bring him back after his suspension was over, but of course they weren't going to. It's another one of those just heartbreaking turn of events in recent UT history that set us back for years to come.
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You realize he's not all that great right? He's probably 3rd on the list here in terms of success.
 
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