Wow I am suprised about all the negative posters here.

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VolsSportsFan said:
Go back and read the post you replied to VolDad, and you replied EXACTLY like he said ultra Pearl supporters reply.

VD said they generally show a lack of basketball IQ, and your reply to him you actually indicated you would rather have an exciting team than one that just simply wins. Your statement pretty much said you'd rather have an exciting, undisiplined team than a dispilined, and in your words "boring" team. You follow that up with a soccer analogy that pretty much was nothing but rambling and a weak attempt to back up your point.

You then end with doing another thing VD said you would, claiming things will get better when Pearl gets a PG. VD said guys like you say "things will get better" without backing it up and you did just that. You have nothing to back up at this point that Pearl has demonstrated he can bring in a good PG.

Everyone of your posts turns into some drawn out wall of text and you rarely even stick to the point. If you notice, most of those critical of BP usually have much shorter posts that DO get to the point.
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Not all bball philosophies are the same. These CBP bashers are of the Booby K mindset, which is cry a lot and get angrier than your opponent, at least in blog translation. Pearl is in more of a Pitino mindset, with the press and high scoring games and what-not. There isn't only one way to play, and half court isn't necessarily a better style than press. It is more common, certainly, and probly easier to find the players for, but we've been making exciting bball work for us, and now it's paying off with our best recruits ever. Criticize CBP for Selby all you want, the fact that the kid ever even looked at UT is pretty impressive imo. I know you guys are impressed by CLK's ability to be in the final 3 of most top recruit choices. Similar, no? I'm not saying CBP is perfect, but this would seem like a place for Vol positivity. The same few always bashing admittedly like other basketball teams, so why not just stick to the football side of things if you aren't a fan anyway? This is a fan site. It's bad enough with the trolls, but at least they are honest and will tell you who they are really for. Go post your Pearl hate on the ESPN site with all the other Illini fans.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
You mean like claims of racism being the main reason someone doesn't like someone, even when there's zero proof, other than your all-knowing "hunch", and a mountain of reasons why criticism is valid?
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Where did you come from? Don't tell me you read this whole thread. Go back, do so, and maybe it'll clear up your confusion. Or were you confused long before all this? All of these guys obviously have some reason to hate on Pearl other than his record/accomplishments. One may be an Illini fan who felt betrayed when CBP told on them. Others just like his bandwagon of pretentiousness.
My point, which I do not hold alone, is that CBP should be given the same if not more respect than CLK on Volnation. His record is better. Why is it ok to bash this one UT coach? It's not because he hasn't blown everyone's expectations for UT bball away, so why is it then? The bigotry was just a possibility, and a reach, admittedly, but in my experience, if you accuse someone of being a murderer when they are just a thief, they usually explain that they are just a thief. BPV said he prefers Bob Knight, and his ego swelled when I didn't recognize his initials. What kind of Vol fan is that?
What is your motivation for being unsatisfied with CBP?
 
#303
#303
OrangeNYC said:
Where did you come from? Don't tell me you read this whole thread. Go back, do so, and maybe it'll clear up your confusion. Or were you confused long before all this? All of these guys obviously have some reason to hate on Pearl other than his record/accomplishments. .....
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Accomplishments like:
2005-2006: bounced in the 2nd round
2006-2007: bounced in the Sweet 16
2007-2008: bounnced in the Sweet 16
2008-2009: bounced in the 1st round
 
#304
#304
OrangeNYC said:
You have so many good reasons not to answer legit questions. Poli Sci major? You are but a leech on a decent thread. Become a player. Say something besides "How stupid. Not worthy of response." That is the answer of the brainless. Nice for when you can't think of answers that don't show your IQ problems, but I think you can do better.
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As soon as you ask a legitimate question I will gladly answer.
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#305
VolDad said:
Accomplishments like:
2005-2006: bounced in the 2nd round
2006-2007: bounced in the Sweet 16
2007-2008: bounnced in the Sweet 16
2008-2009: bounced in the 1st round
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Only 1 team a year doesn't get 'bounced', by your idiotic definition. Sweet 16 twice. How many times has UT made the Sweet 16 again? Remind me, genius.
 
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#307
OrangeNYC said:
Only 1 team a year doesn't get 'bounced', by your idiotic definition. Sweet 16 twice. How many times has UT made the Sweet 16 again? Remind me, genius.
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And he has never been close to being that 1 team.

OrangeNYC said:
where do you guys get your expectations?
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With high salary come high expectations. I will bet most NYC dishwashers understand that.
 
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#309
VolDad said:
Accomplishments like:
2005-2006: bounced in the 2nd round
2006-2007: bounced in the Sweet 16
2007-2008: bounnced in the Sweet 16
2008-2009: bounced in the 1st round
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how many times did we even make the NCAAs, much less, the Sweet 16 before Pearl?
 
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#312
trevols81 said:
how many times did we even make the NCAAs, much less, the Sweet 16 before Pearl?
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Seriously. That should be the point. Where were we the year before Pearl, ten years before Pearl, fifty... and where are we now? AFTER ONLY 4 YEARS!! How could anyone not just love CBP if they were a Vol who'd followed the team pre-Pearl?
It's called BUILDING a championship program. CLK is rebuilding one with the football team, a much simpler task. Where's even a modicum of that love for Kiffin? You'd all have been destroyed as trolls if you were so unrealistically negative towards the football team, which should be even more proof of just how tough CBP's task truly is.
Thats when I start wondering about the crazier theories, because there's got to be more to it than that. Illini fans makes the most sense.
 
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#313
OrangeNYC said:
Seriously. That should be the point. Where were we the year before Pearl, ten years before Pearl, fifty... and where are we now? AFTER ONLY 4 YEARS!! How could anyone not just love CBP if they were a Vol who'd followed the team pre-Pearl?
It's called BUILDING a championship program. CLK is rebuilding one with the football team, a much simpler task. Where's even a modicum of that love for Kiffin? You'd all have been destroyed as trolls if you were so unrealistically negative towards the football team, which should be even more proof of just how tough CBP's task truly is.
Thats when I start wondering about the crazier theories, because there's got to be more to it than that. Illini fans makes the most sense.
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You miss the mark YET again.
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#314
hatvol96 said:
DeVoe made it his first 5 years. Green made it all 4 of his. It's not like this hasn't been done here before.
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Green made 4 sweet 16's? I don't remember that. And how many did DeVoe make? Durrr. :crazy:
Besides, neither of them won a DII Championship. It's about the whole career, right? Hence the reason the Coach K comparison over the last 4 years is invalid?
You are one sorry pretend lawyer. These strawmen arguments are so tired.
Coach Pearl is the best basketball coach UT's ever had, except maybe Pat Head.
How can you say making the NCAA's 4 straight at UT is no big deal? And the first two were ALL GENIUS COACHING! What other coach would have put Dane at the 4? That was genius, and very ballsy.
Once you laugh at 2 Sweet 16's in 4 years, you show how ridiculous you are. Just a bitter pretend-a-lawyer Jillini fan. You can try to hijack the thread, change the debate, or whatever, but it really just shows how sad you are. What a waste of time. I consider it good use of my time to defend one of my favorite coaches on one of my favorite sites, which should be a pro Pearl site. I would never waste time on a rival site criticizing and trolling. But that's just me. Keep doing you.
 
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#316
OrangeNYC said:
Where did you come from? Don't tell me you read this whole thread. Go back, do so, and maybe it'll clear up your confusion. Or were you confused long before all this? All of these guys obviously have some reason to hate on Pearl other than his record/accomplishments. One may be an Illini fan who felt betrayed when CBP told on them. Others just like his bandwagon of pretentiousness.
My point, which I do not hold alone, is that CBP should be given the same if not more respect than CLK on Volnation. His record is better. Why is it ok to bash this one UT coach? It's not because he hasn't blown everyone's expectations for UT bball away, so why is it then? The bigotry was just a possibility, and a reach, admittedly, but in my experience, if you accuse someone of being a murderer when they are just a thief, they usually explain that they are just a thief. BPV said he prefers Bob Knight, and his ego swelled when I didn't recognize his initials. What kind of Vol fan is that?
What is your motivation for being unsatisfied with CBP?
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Actually...I HAVE read the whole thread.

Apparently you've already forgotten your posts at the beginning of the thread that called "Pearl haters" anti-Semites.
 
#317
#317
OrangeNYC said:
The big boys are talking here. Save your lame one-liners for the kids table.
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So the Big Boys call others bigots and racists when they lose arguments?

You're showing that your NYC intelligence is much greater than us small-minded rednecks with each passing post.

Once again I implore you to ask a legitimate question. The constant drivel out of your mouth is doing noting but show your lack of reasoning and ability to have a rational thought.
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#318
#318
VolsSportsFan said:
Actually...I HAVE read the whole thread.

Apparently you've already forgotten your posts at the beginning of the thread that called "Pearl haters" anti-Semites.
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NYC does not grasp the concept that you can be a fan and have personal feelings at the same time.

He is an example of what happens when "fans" bury their heads in the sand and put full faith in a Snake that likes to paint his chest.
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#319
#319
OrangeNYC said:
Seriously. That should be the point. Where were we the year before Pearl, ten years before Pearl, fifty... and where are we now? AFTER ONLY 4 YEARS!! How could anyone not just love CBP if they were a Vol who'd followed the team pre-Pearl?
It's called BUILDING a championship program. CLK is rebuilding one with the football team, a much simpler task. Where's even a modicum of that love for Kiffin? You'd all have been destroyed as trolls if you were so unrealistically negative towards the football team, which should be even more proof of just how tough CBP's task truly is.
Thats when I start wondering about the crazier theories, because there's got to be more to it than that. Illini fans makes the most sense.[/QUOTE]

So now all Vol fans who think Pearl isn't that great are Illini fans? Are you kidding? That's ridiculous. I just don't understand how you Pearl's weaknesses that have prevented UT from taking the next step. You are giving WAY TOO MUCH credit to Pearl when a lot of it should go to Hamilton because he doled out the money for basketball. It's not like Pearl has been amazing. Solid, but not amazing.

And also, I'll take Brad Stevens with a boring game if he can get us a Final Four.
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#321
Lofton4Three said:
That was the Failmer fans' approach.
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GOOD OP , and you loftonthree- I'm pretty sure Fulmer put a POWERHOUSE program in nuetral for 4+ seasons. Pearl has ignited the UT program to a level it hasn't been in decades. Can you name the last time we were #1 in the country? I can't. To compare patience with Fulmer to patience with Pearl is asanine at best. Pearl has met or exceeded his goals thus far, and recruiting and all other signs show our BBall program is going UP not DOWN in strength and stock. The Fact that BP is raising the expectations of "VolBall" as I call it, is a pretty good indication that he's succeeding. Not sure how you think a Power program being rundown and a rundown program being IGNITED is the same?!? There's no Possible way you can say (and be correct) that Pearl hasn't elevated our Program. NO POSSIBLE WAY, Quit holding our BBall coach the prestigous standards of our FBall program. Its like Duke firing Cutcliffe bc he didn't compete for a NC, LUDACRIS!!!
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#322
#322
Orangekush423 said:
GOOD OP , and you loftonthree- I'm pretty sure Fulmer put a POWERHOUSE program in nuetral for 4+ seasons. Pearl has ignited the UT program to a level it hasn't been in decades. Can you name the last time we were #1 in the country? I can't. To compare patience with Fulmer to patience with Pearl is asanine at best. Pearl has met or exceeded his goals thus far, and recruiting and all other signs show our BBall program is going UP not DOWN in strength and stock. The Fact that BP is raising the expectations of "VolBall" as I call it, is a pretty good indication that he's succeeding. Not sure how you think a Power program being rundown and a rundown program being IGNITED is the same?!? There's no Possible way you can say (and be correct) that Pearl hasn't elevated our Program. NO POSSIBLE WAY, Quit holding our BBall coach the prestigous standards of our FBall program. Its like Duke firing Cutcliffe bc he didn't compete for a NC, LUDACRIS!!!
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Why you bringing Luda into this?
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#323
#323
Orangekush423 said:
GOOD OP , and you loftonthree- I'm pretty sure Fulmer put a POWERHOUSE program in nuetral for 4+ seasons. Pearl has ignited the UT program to a level it hasn't been in decades. Can you name the last time we were #1 in the country? I can't. To compare patience with Fulmer to patience with Pearl is asanine at best. Pearl has met or exceeded his goals thus far, and recruiting and all other signs show our BBall program is going UP not DOWN in strength and stock. The Fact that BP is raising the expectations of "VolBall" as I call it, is a pretty good indication that he's succeeding. Not sure how you think a Power program being rundown and a rundown program being IGNITED is the same?!? There's no Possible way you can say (and be correct) that Pearl hasn't elevated our Program. NO POSSIBLE WAY, Quit holding our BBall coach the prestigous standards of our FBall program. Its like Duke firing Cutcliffe bc he didn't compete for a NC, LUDACRIS!!!
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1) Cutcliffe isn't getting paid BCS Bowl money.

2) UT's basketball program has historically been better than Duke's football program.
 
#324
#324
Orangekush423 said:
GOOD OP , and you loftonthree- I'm pretty sure Fulmer put a POWERHOUSE program in nuetral for 4+ seasons. Pearl has ignited the UT program to a level it hasn't been in decades. Can you name the last time we were #1 in the country? I can't. To compare patience with Fulmer to patience with Pearl is asanine at best. Pearl has met or exceeded his goals thus far, and recruiting and all other signs show our BBall program is going UP not DOWN in strength and stock. The Fact that BP is raising the expectations of "VolBall" as I call it, is a pretty good indication that he's succeeding. Not sure how you think a Power program being rundown and a rundown program being IGNITED is the same?!? There's no Possible way you can say (and be correct) that Pearl hasn't elevated our Program. NO POSSIBLE WAY, Quit holding our BBall coach the prestigous standards of our FBall program. Its like Duke firing Cutcliffe bc he didn't compete for a NC, LUDACRIS!!!
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How far did that #1 ranking carry us in the Tourney?

The only thing this last post of yours is missing is the cliche of "who else we gonna git?"
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