Wow I am suprised about all the negative posters here.

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thekicker33 said:
I can handle opinions based on fact. Like, how many games has Pearl lost or won when the game was a more halfcourt affair? And like i said earlier, that's hard to quantify since there are ebb and flows to a game where one style then another takes over. But by far, more times than not the Ebb and flow of the game has gone in Pearl's favor. There has to be something to that.
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Apparently you have not seen very many UT games in tournament play under Pearl. I am sure you loved that Long Beach game though.
 
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emainvol said:
I can tell you why I don't think it's true. I think LSU is quite pleased with the Final Four banner hanging in their gym. However, that is my opinion.
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Obviously they're thrilled with it. I wish UT had one. I think, based on the frickin law of averages that the more you get in the tournament then you're more likely to advance further in any given year, that Pearl will get there eventually. You don't simply because he doesn't have a halfcourt game that you like, which isn't based on any fact!
 
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PPPpartsp3 said:
Apparently you have not seen very many UT games in tournament play under Pearl. I am sure you loved that Long Beach game though.
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Please tell me!! Quantify it!! That's what you are failing to do!! I like numbers staring me in the face, not some guy on a message board's opinion!
 
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emainvol said:
Throwing statistics around for the sake of throwing statistics around doesn't win debates. How do I know? I am on scholarship for participation in debate tournaments.
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And throwing around opinions with no statistics sure as heck doesn't win you a debate. At least, I'm giving stats. You might not like it, but they are there.
 
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thekicker33 said:
And throwing around opinions with no statistics sure as heck doesn't win you a debate. At least, I'm giving stats. You might not like it, but they are there.
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It doesn't matter if I do give you stats. I gave you stats on Huggins winning percentage vs. Pearl and you changed the parameters. That's not how it works.

Also, and I can't stress this enough, it is a fact that Tennessee plays a shoddy halfcourt. Just because their isn't an easily searchable stat to back it up doesn't mean that you can't flip on a TV and watch it happen.
 
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And I love the fact you Pearl haters haven't answered the question of what season Pearl has underachieved.
So here it is again. What season has Pearl underachieved?

2006- No way! 22-8 with what Peterson left was nothing short of an miraculous job.

2007- Nope! Had tons of freshmen on the team, yet went 24-11.

2008- Nope! 31-5 speaks for itself. First No. 1 ranking in school history. Then ran into a Louisville team that nobody in their right mind thought was worse than UT.

2009- An arguement could be made he underachieved. Should have done more with what he had.

So 1 in 4 seasons of underachieving means you'll never win/make the final four. I surely hope your boss doesn't hold you to those standards
 
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emainvol said:
It doesn't matter if I do give you stats. I gave you stats on Huggins winning percentage vs. Pearl and you changed the parameters. That's not how it works.

Also, and I can't stress this enough, it is a fact that Tennessee plays a shoddy halfcourt. Just because their isn't an easily searchable stat to back it up doesn't mean that you can't flip on a TV and watch it happen.
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Bull, unless its in the box score, it didn't happen.
 
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emainvol said:
It doesn't matter if I do give you stats. I gave you stats on Huggins winning percentage vs. Pearl and you changed the parameters. That's not how it works.

Also, and I can't stress this enough, it is a fact that Tennessee plays a shoddy halfcourt. Just because their isn't an easily searchable stat to back it up doesn't mean that you can't flip on a TV and watch it happen.
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you're the one that changed the parameter. I compared Pearl's time at UT compared to Huggins resume. you didn't like what the results indicated, and therefore, said it wasn't a valid comparison. I'm not sure how it's not fair, though. Why do we care what Pearl did at other schools? I surely don't. You're the one that wanted to compare him with Huggins' career and that's what I did.
 
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PPPpartsp3 said:
Bull, unless its in the box score, it didn't happen.
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Seriously, do you guys even read my posts????? I'm admitting UT's halfcourt offense needs to improve! And even with that, he's still won 73 percent of his games. And yet again, which you guys seems to be ignoring, when has Pearl underachieved???
 
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thekicker33 said:
you're the one that changed the parameter. I compared Pearl's time at UT compared to Huggins resume. you didn't like what the results indicated, and therefore, said it wasn't a valid comparison. I'm not sure how it's not fair, though. Why do we care what Pearl did at other schools? I surely don't. You're the one that wanted to compare him with Huggins' career and that's what I did.
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Actually no, the original claim was that Huggins' record was better than Pearl's. You asked for proof from another poster, I gave it to you. It's pretty easy to find, in fact I think it is in this thread.
 
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thekicker33 said:
Seriously, do you guys even read my posts????? I'm admitting UT's halfcourt offense needs to improve! And even with that, he's still won 73 percent of his games. And yet again, which you guys seems to be ignoring, when has Pearl underachieved???
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You answered it in your own damn post. Give it a rest.
 
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emainvol said:
You answered it in your own damn post. Give it a rest.
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And my point is 1 in 4 underachieving seasons doesn't mean he won't make a final four. This year will be telling, but I'm done with this thread until the end of the year. Everything has been said on both sides based on four years of Pearl's time at UT.

And let me save you time, "Thank God thekicker is done. He gave nothing but facts I didn't like. It was much too hard to respond to such evidence, so I went to my usual theme of no halfcourt effectiveness while totally ignoring a 73 percent winning percentage."
 
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thekicker33 said:
And my point is 1 in 4 underachieving seasons doesn't mean he won't make a final four. This year will be telling, but I'm done with this thread until the end of the year. Everything has been said on both sides based on four years of Pearl's time at UT.

And let me save you time, "Thank God thekicker is done. He gave nothing but facts I didn't like. It was much too hard to respond to such evidence, so I went to my usual theme of no halfcourt effectiveness while totally ignoring a 73 percent winning percentage."
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Look how those "facts" are helping Krispy Kreme get a job now.
 
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thekicker33 said:
Obviously they're thrilled with it. I wish UT had one. I think, based on the frickin law of averages that the more you get in the tournament then you're more likely to advance further in any given year, that Pearl will get there eventually. You don't simply because he doesn't have a halfcourt game that you like, which isn't based on any fact!
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The Law of Averages is just an advanced argument for the "wait and see" crowd.
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#818
The Law of Averages had nothing to do with us getting dismantled by Louisville in Charlotte a couple of March's ago with the team that had been #1. A great UT team who clearly was unprepared to play Louisville's game and unable to dictate their own preferred game.
 
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volinasheville said:
The Law of Averages had nothing to do with us getting dismantled by Louisville in Charlotte a couple of March's ago with the team that had been #1. A great UT team who clearly was unprepared to play Louisville's game and unable to dictate their own preferred game.
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Don't be silly, that team had a winning % even higher than 73%. Let's not lose sight of what's important. Did you miss dude's facts, or something?
 
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thekicker33 said:
And my point is 1 in 4 underachieving seasons doesn't mean he won't make a final four. This year will be telling, but I'm done with this thread until the end of the year. Everything has been said on both sides based on four years of Pearl's time at UT.

And let me save you time, "Thank God thekicker is done. He gave nothing but facts I didn't like. It was much too hard to respond to such evidence, so I went to my usual theme of no halfcourt effectiveness while totally ignoring a 73 percent winning percentage."
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Laces out, Seth.
 
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emainvol said:
This question has been bugging me for awhile, maybe someone can answer it. Why have Pearl's critics all been grouped together as a leader or two and his minions, even though the majority of us have been intelligently discussing basketball on this site for 3+ years? Further, why are all the guys who can't stand the criticism and who do nothing more than give us the same recycled stats and arguments enlightened free thinkers? These guys must be confused as to how that works.
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If you are serious about being on scholarship as a debater you must recognize your blatant hypocrisy displayed on this point.

You engage in ad hominem and attempt to group those who disagree you into one category. Sometimes you use "sheep" sometimes other nomenclature (I do not care to reread your posts to see if you aped hat to say sycophants, or if you went with slurpers or pearlophiles).

Although Hat primarily engaged in ad hominem and then ignore (which is odd since he sometimes discusses things that I said which have not been quoted) most of the other people on here take pot shots and high five each other like lulz cats nerds on 4 chan.

I have enjoyed actually talking about basketball with some of the people on here, but basically most of the people who post regularly are not discussing other teams, strategy, results, coaching etc. they are waiting for a new Pearl fan so they can tell them Pearl is horrible.

I wish that all the Pearl complaints could be a sticky so that when someone who loves TN basketball and thinks Pearl is great comes on here, you could point them to the sticky and avoid cluttering everything.
 
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#822
How well did the "law of averages" work out for Gene Keady and Norm Stewart in regards to reaching the Final Four?
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hatvol96 said:
How well did the "law of averages" work out for Gene Keady and Norm Stewart in regards to reaching the Final Four?
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25 years at Purdue would not constitute enough time to show the law of averages.

Just throwing out one possible excuse for the WaitNSee Tribe.
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thekicker33 said:
And I love the fact you Pearl haters haven't answered the question of what season Pearl has underachieved.
So here it is again. What season has Pearl underachieved?

2006- No way! 22-8 with what Peterson left was nothing short of an miraculous job.

2007- Nope! Had tons of freshmen on the team, yet went 24-11.

2008- Nope! 31-5 speaks for itself. First No. 1 ranking in school history. Then ran into a Louisville team that nobody in their right mind thought was worse than UT.

2009- An arguement could be made he underachieved. Should have done more with what he had.

So 1 in 4 seasons of underachieving means you'll never win/make the final four. I surely hope your boss doesn't hold you to those standards
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I like Pearl, and I'll be the first to say that he has done some very good things with the basketball program. Since he has been on the Hill, he has recruited well, he has fielded teams that can run and gun and win tons of games, and he has brought energy and enthusiasm back to UT basketball.

But you are misunderstanding his critics. His teams lack some obvious, fundamental ingredients for championship basketball, as evidenced by his complete lack of tournament championships of any kind since he has been here. They don't play well in the half-court on either side of the ball, and when you are forced in a tournament to play several talented, well-coached teams that do in a row, you are going to have flameouts.

Let me ask you this: at 31-5, why didn't anybody in their right mind think we were better than that Louisville team? When that is no longer the case, I don't think you will hear much criticism of Pearl. In fact, the criticism of Pearl as a coach, as I understand it, is basically based on the fact that he seems unwilling, or unable, to change the things that made that made us inferior to UofL, or any of the other elite teams that consistently go deep into tournaments.
 
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cotton said:
I like Pearl, and I'll be the first to say that he has done some very good things with the basketball program. Since he has been on the Hill, he has recruited well, he has fielded teams that can run and gun and win tons of games, and he has brought energy and enthusiasm back to UT basketball.

But you are misunderstanding his critics. His teams lack some obvious, fundamental ingredients for championship basketball, as evidenced by his complete lack of tournament championships of any kind since he has been here. They don't play well in the half-court on either side of the ball, and when you are forced in a tournament to play several talented, well-coached teams that do in a row, you are going to have flameouts.

Let me ask you this: at 31-5, why didn't anybody in their right mind think we were better than that Louisville team? When that is no longer the case, I don't think you will hear much criticism of Pearl. In fact, the criticism of Pearl as a coach, as I understand it, is basically based on the fact that he seems unwilling, or unable, to change the things that made that made us inferior to UofL, or any of the other elite teams that consistently go deep into tournaments.
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The only way this sounds better, is if Winston Churchill delivered it in the form of a speech. Which, for obvious reasons.....will never happen.

If someone can't understand this post, then they should tarred and feathered.
 
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