Wow I am suprised about all the negative posters here.

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thekicker33 said:
Heck, that's like saying you'd take Fulmer's 1998 national championship in exchange for this dreaful new decade. Maybe you are one of the few that handles below average seasons in exchange for one final fours! I'm not one of those. I
'd rather have a chance each year. That way your chances of advancing go up. Does it always work that way?? No. But statistically speaking, you're better off getting to the tournament each year then having a "lucky" run.
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I value Championships.

Football:

SEC (not east division)
National
BCS Bowl appearances are a good consolation

Basketball:

SEC Regular Champs (not division)
SEC Tournament
Advance to Reginal Final
Of course Final Four
National

I don't think a Title should guarantee anyone a certain amount of time. Obviously a Final Four didn't do to much for Brady at LSU.
 
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#779
This question has been bugging me for awhile, maybe someone can answer it. Why have Pearl's critics all been grouped together as a leader or two and his minions, even though the majority of us have been intelligently discussing basketball on this site for 3+ years? Further, why are all the guys who can't stand the criticism and who do nothing more than give us the same recycled stats and arguments enlightened free thinkers? These guys must be confused as to how that works.
 
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thekicker33 said:
Thanks! I'm given facts, you're given opinions. In other terms, if this was a judged debate, I'd win easily!
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On top of the voluminous pile of facts you've overwhelmed us with, you've shown incredible reading comprehension and topped it off with some of the King's English, as displayed above.

If this happened to be judged, you'd be escorted to the remedial classroom.
 
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thekicker33 said:
Thanks! I'm given facts, you're given opinions. In other terms, if this was a judged debate, I'd win easily!
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Throwing statistics around for the sake of throwing statistics around doesn't win debates. How do I know? I am on scholarship for participation in debate tournaments.
 
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emainvol said:
Statistically speaking, a Final Four doesn't come in the middle of a bunch of crap years.
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And yet the following year after the final four, LSU went 17-15. The previous year, they went 20-10 with a first-round exit. Those two seasons are average, kind of what UT is doing now. Except Pearl hasn't gone 17-15. So based on your reasoning, UT's final four could come at any time since a "final four doesn't come in between of a bunch of crap years."
 
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#783
I like how LSU's Final Four appearance was lucky, and that if UT keeps getting in, then its like the Lottery, and our number will come up eventually.
 
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thekicker33 said:
And yet the following year after the final four, LSU went 17-15. The previous year, they went 20-10 with a first-round exit. Those two seasons are average, kind of what UT is doing now. Except Pearl hasn't gone 17-15. So based on your reasoning, UT's final four could come at any time since a "final four doesn't come in between of a bunch of crap years."
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No. LSU played defense.
 
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emainvol said:
This question has been bugging me for awhile, maybe someone can answer it. Why have Pearl's critics all been grouped together as a leader or two and his minions, even though the majority of us have been intelligently discussing basketball on this site for 3+ years? Further, why are all the guys who can't stand the criticism and who do nothing more than give us the same recycled stats and arguments enlightened free thinkers? These guys must be confused as to how that works.
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what do you think you're doing bub??? Pearl can't coach halfcourt offense or defense. He makes no adjustments in game!! That's all your minions say, too. At least my claims are backed by stats. Yours are merely opinions that are hard to quantify.
 
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emainvol said:
Throwing statistics around for the sake of throwing statistics around doesn't win debates. How do I know? I am on scholarship for participation in debate tournaments.
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When stats are factual it does. You, my friend, have given nothing but opinion.
 
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thekicker33 said:
what do you think you're doing bub??? Pearl can't coach halfcourt offense or defense. He makes no adjustments in game!! That's all your minions say, too. At least my claims are backed by stats. Yours are merely opinions that are hard to quantify.
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Actually, there is a lot more to it than that. However, it is not very hard to watch a Tennessee basketball game and see the team look lost in the halfcourt. If you can't see it, you simply don't know anything about basketball.
 
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thekicker33 said:
When stats are factual it does. You, my friend, have given nothing but opinion.
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Just stop. You threw out some stats about which you drew some absurd conclusions (which is 100% opinion and absolutely baseless) regarding our style of play. There has been nothing remotely factual about your argument, unless your touting reg season wins.
 
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PPPpartsp3 said:
I like how LSU's Final Four appearance was lucky, and that if UT keeps getting in, then its like the Lottery, and our number will come up eventually.
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And yes, any coach will tell you to advance that far, it takes luck at some point in the road. A lucky bounce. A fumble, like in 1998 for UT. A blocked kick for Alabama this year. A half second for Texas to kick a field goal.
 
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#791
OK, that's your OPINION. Give FACTS to back up your arguement! So what you're saying is 10 of those SEC schools wouldn't have exchanged their winning percentage for that of Pearl's during the same time. Take Pearl out of the equation. There's no way in the world those teams wouldn't want that winning percentage, especially with how poorly they did.
 
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#792
thekicker33 said:
OK, that's your OPINION. Give FACTS to back up your arguement! So what you're saying is 10 of those SEC schools wouldn't have exchanged their winning percentage for that of Pearl's during the same time. Take Pearl out of the equation. There's no way in the world those teams wouldn't want that winning percentage, especially with how poorly they did.
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This argument is so littered with fallacies that it just isn't worth the debate.
 
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#793
thekicker33 said:
OK, that's your OPINION. Give FACTS to back up your arguement! So what you're saying is 10 of those SEC schools wouldn't have exchanged their winning percentage for that of Pearl's during the same time. Take Pearl out of the equation. There's no way in the world those teams wouldn't want that winning percentage, especially with how poorly they did.
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Answering that question would be sharing my opinion. There is no room for that in this thread.
 
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#794
emainvol said:
Actually, there is a lot more to it than that. However, it is not very hard to watch a Tennessee basketball game and see the team look lost in the halfcourt. If you can't see it, you simply don't know anything about basketball.
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I've never denied UT struggles in the halfcourt, and they're better when the game is uptempo. You are the one denying Pearl's success, which is everybody's point that supports him and says he can win a lot at Tennessee. Can you admit he's been good for UT basketball?? Please admit that!
Now we can argue till our balls turn blue as to whether or not he'll ever get to a final four or win it all. The fact is that's the FUTURE. None of us know what's going to happen.
 
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#796
"Just stop. You threw out some stats about which you drew some absurd conclusions (which is 100% opinion and absolutely basis) regarding our style of play. There has been nothing remotely factual about your argument, unless your touting reg season wins." is what you said PapaVol.

My arguement was there were 10 other SEC schools that wish they had success that UT has had over the last four years. Do you not find that to be true? If not, why?
 
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thekicker33 said:
I've never denied UT struggles in the halfcourt, and they're better when the game is uptempo. You are the one denying Pearl's success, which is everybody's point that supports him and says he can win a lot at Tennessee. Can you admit he's been good for UT basketball?? Please admit that!
Now we can argue till our balls turn blue as to whether or not he'll ever get to a final four or win it all. The fact is that's the FUTURE. None of us know what's going to happen.
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When did I ever deny it? Suggesting that I am denying Pearl's success is simply not factual.
 
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#798
thekicker33 said:
"Just stop. You threw out some stats about which you drew some absurd conclusions (which is 100% opinion and absolutely basis) regarding our style of play. There has been nothing remotely factual about your argument, unless your touting reg season wins." is what you said PapaVol.

My arguement was there were 10 other SEC schools that wish they had success that UT has had over the last four years. Do you not find that to be true? If not, why?
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I can tell you why I don't think it's true. I think LSU is quite pleased with the Final Four banner hanging in their gym. However, that is my opinion.
 
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emainvol said:
Answering that question would be sharing my opinion. There is no room for that in this thread.
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I can handle opinions based on fact. Like, how many games has Pearl lost or won when the game was a more halfcourt affair? And like i said earlier, that's hard to quantify since there are ebb and flows to a game where one style then another takes over. But by far, more times than not the Ebb and flow of the game has gone in Pearl's favor. There has to be something to that.
 
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