Wow! Stay classy OU

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Hardwood_fanatic said:
I've interviewed/hired/fired well over a hundred people in my life. Statistically speaking, the majority of the underperforming, lazy dumbasses came from the fraternity mold.

For instance, I'm in a staff meeting as we speak. One of the other managers delegated their attendance to one of their group. He's a frat guy. He's setting here leaned back in the chair like it is a ****ing lazy boy, and was 10 minutes late for the meeting. When he entered the room he says "oh my bad."

Not coincidentally, he's on 90 day probation for bad performance.

I do believe it is a generational thing, and that sometimes the frat life makes it worse. this generation is already hopeless.
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What's worse? Leaning back in a chair or being on VOLnation as a UK fan during a staff meeting? I sense the butthurt with this guy and fraternities runs deep like the Mariana Trench. I can only assume you were one the the kids who brought his hammock to campus and peered out of said hammock, cursing Greeks under your breath as they passed your burlap tree bed. I pity you.
 
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
I've interviewed/hired/fired well over a hundred people in my life. Statistically speaking, the majority of the underperforming, lazy dumbasses came from the fraternity mold.

For instance, I'm in a staff meeting as we speak. One of the other managers delegated their attendance to one of their group. He's a frat guy. He's setting here leaned back in the chair like it is a ****ing lazy boy, and was 10 minutes late for the meeting. When he entered the room he says "oh my bad."

Not coincidentally, he's on 90 day probation for bad performance.

I do believe it is a generational thing, and that sometimes the frat life makes it worse. this generation is already hopeless.
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Every generation says this about generations younger than them, regardless of any actual reasoning behind it. I think a better way to say it is, the worst of the current generation is as bad as its ever been, but the best of this generation (according to standardized testing and IQ tests worldwide) are better than they've ever been as well.

We're getting kids who are much dumber/lazier, but we are also getting kids smarter, younger, than they've ever been.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
No we went out and solicited donations while you sat on your butt taking volcano hits and playing madden
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We ALMOST had the same college experiences except I solicited happy endings while buttchugging and playing Blades of Steel.

Almost exactly the same!
 
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I was never in a fraternity in college, because there was no need to join one, because I was at a small school. There were only 3 fraternities, Kappa Sigma, TKE, and SAE. I became friends with guys in all of those fraternities and attended their events, especially TKE and Kappa Sigma. I don't care for Greek life but some of those guys were great people.
 
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VolsButch98 said:
What's worse? Leaning back in a chair or being on VOLnation as a UK fan during a staff meeting? I sense the butthurt with this guy and fraternities runs deep like the Mariana Trench. I can only assume you were one the the kids who brought his hammock to campus and peered out of said hammock, cursing Greeks under your breath as they passed your burlap tree bed. I pity you.
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Welcome to volnation, where we eat our own. Marianas trench or Mariana trench, I believe both work.
 
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
I manage a global purchasing department in the automotive industry. I have a group of 7 folks, 3 of which come from fraternities. (I inherited them, did not hire)

Not coincidentally, they are the most immature and lazy in the entire group. Also not coincidentally, they carry around an entitlement attitude that seems to suggest their 4 years of bromance and Greek letters should somehow translate to gravy jobs in the real world.

That being said I've came across several outstanding young men from fraternities, but statistically it isn't the norm.
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I would never hire someone from a frat unless they had a high GPA, cause if you can do all the crazy stuff frat guys do. And still get the work done, then they deserve a chance.
 
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But back to the true topic at hand, what happened at Oklahoma is a big problem. It's a problem because I would bet my house that this song had been passed down for years and years. These d-bags on the bus didn't just make it up. They were just stupid enough to finally get caught.


The bigger problem is this keeps happening over and over in Greek organizations at many different schools. It seems fairly clear that they barely scratch the surface when they set about dealing with these issues. Sure, OU removed this chapter, but is that really going to matter?

At some point, it has to truly stop. How that happens I haven't quite figured out...
 
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Trust me this kind of stuff happens at a lot of fraternities. These idiots just posted it. I went to a UGA frat with a friend last year. And some of those guys are just total ass holes
 
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WallyBalls said:
But back to the true topic at hand, what happened at Oklahoma is a big problem. It's a problem because I would bet my house that this song had been passed down for years and years. These d-bags on the bus didn't just make it up. They were just stupid enough to finally get caught.


The bigger problem is this keeps happening over and over in Greek organizations at many different schools. It seems fairly clear that they barely scratch the surface when they set about dealing with these issues. Sure, OU removed this chapter, but is that really going to matter?

At some point, it has to truly stop. How that happens I haven't quite figured out...
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Can you name some other Frat houses where this is common?
 
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volinreallife said:
I never understood why people wanted to pay to hang out with people.

If I wanted to do that I would be at a country club.
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I was in a frat and I'm a country club member now. Go figure.

The cheers and songs we sang when I was an active make this OU thing look like baby poop. Different time though I guess.
 
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WallyBalls said:
But back to the true topic at hand, what happened at Oklahoma is a big problem. It's a problem because I would bet my house that this song had been passed down for years and years. These d-bags on the bus didn't just make it up. They were just stupid enough to finally get caught.


The bigger problem is this keeps happening over and over in Greek organizations at many different schools. It seems fairly clear that they barely scratch the surface when they set about dealing with these issues. Sure, OU removed this chapter, but is that really going to matter?

At some point, it has to truly stop. How that happens I haven't quite figured out...
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Why is this a problem and why does it have to stop? What's it to you if these people wanna sing some offensive chant on a charter bus headed to a party? I guess I'm just one of those people who thinks the 1st amendment means what it says.
 
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My roommate at ETSU was a Sig Ep and I spent many a night in the frat house drinking all kinds of free booze and kissing on sorority girls...that being said I still wasn't a huge fan of the whole frat thing. Pay $1000+ to join? Hell no. Not to mention he was always having some kind of obligation to attend and had to dress a certain way. It seems 90% of the guys came from rich families, my roommate being one of them. I had to work full time in college, most of the Sig Eps didnt even have jobs, just daddys credit card. Not really surprised at this video.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Why is this a problem and why does it have to stop? What's it to you if these people wanna sing some offensive chant on a charter bus headed to a party? I guess I'm just one of those people who thinks the 1st amendment means what it says.
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It's vulgar and offensive and I wish people wouldn't behave in such a way. That should really go without saying.

That said, they are still free to say what they want. Just like their international HQ is free to yank their charter.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Can you name some other Frat houses where this is common?
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Syracuse, UT, Florida, even an Asian frat at UC-Irvine all had blackface incidents in the recent past.

Duke had issues over a party in 2013 (Kappa Sigma).

Arizona State had issues over an MLK themed party (Tau Kappa Epsilon).

Clemson had a frat get suspended over a "Cripmas" party (SAE).

Washington University in St. Louis had a suspension over an incident in a dining hall during rush week. (SAE)

Lehigh had a frat suspended over racist graffiti and throwing eggs.(Sigma Chi)

Ole Miss suspended a frat after members hung a noose on a James Meredith statue. (Sigma Phi Epsilon)




That was after a 2 second google search going back 3 years.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Why is this a problem and why does it have to stop? What's it to you if these people wanna sing some offensive chant on a charter bus headed to a party? I guess I'm just one of those people who thinks the 1st amendment means what it says.
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See the response from other people on the campus, chiefly Eric Striker.

It needs to stop because its stupid, embarrassing, ignorant, and above all, inflammatory.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying courts or anything like that need to be involved. The organizations themselves need to get control of it. Leave that garbage in the past rather than defend some stupid tradition.




And, FWIW, the first amendment does not protect your right to say someone should "hang from a tree".
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Why is this a problem and why does it have to stop? What's it to you if these people wanna sing some offensive chant on a charter bus headed to a party? I guess I'm just one of those people who thinks the 1st amendment means what it says.
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Do you also believe Donald Sterling should not have been forced to sell the Clippers?
 
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