Yeah, the days of abusing the Bible to justify violence are long gone

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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I really don't even know what to say to you anymore honestly. Your views of my faith are very skewed and wrong. You also still haven't answered my question on if you are a Christian or not.
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Why is it so important that you know whether he's a Christian or not?
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
You are straight up the most self-absorbent person I have ever come across on these boards. Do you honestly think that because "I haven't been formerly educated", that I don't know about the faith I have chosen to be a part of and how and where it started?? Also, do you really know what being a "Christian" is?? Do you think your born in to it?? Just because your born into a family that attends church, doesn't make you a Christian by association. I was born into a family like that, but it wasn't until January 2004 (I was 24) that I turned my life over to God and accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior. As far as Global Warming goes, it seems that you have about as much faith in it as I have in my Christianity. So, your faith is science, and my faith is God, or so that's the way you just made it sound. I'll take God over some theory based science any day of the week.
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You are telling me that I was never a Christian those 20 years of my life because I am not one now without even knowing me, feel you can confidently say Catholics (and I assume Anglicans, Eastern Orthodox, and Russian Orthodox people) are not really Christians because you personally studied the matter, and breathlessly tell me wrong information about a subject matter I specialize in (climate change) when describing the reasons for your beliefs on the matter. Ya, I am a real jackass.

I would still like to hear your version of the timeline of the Christian faith, starting with his death.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
You are straight up the most self-absorbent person I have ever come across on these boards. Do you honestly think that because "I haven't been formerly educated", that I don't know about the faith I have chosen to be a part of and how and where it started?? Also, do you really know what being a "Christian" is?? Do you think your born in to it?? Just because your born into a family that attends church, doesn't make you a Christian by association. I was born into a family like that, but it wasn't until January 2004 (I was 24) that I turned my life over to God and accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior. As far as Global Warming goes, it seems that you have about as much faith in it as I have in my Christianity. So, your faith is science, and my faith is God, or so that's the way you just made it sound. I'll take God over some theory based science any day of the week.
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But otoh if you are born of a muslim father then you are automatically a muslim and face family ostracism if not worse if you repudiate islam to take any other religion.

And furthermore gloabal warming is pseudo science at best.

VolInMn said:
Why is it so important that you know whether he's a Christian or not?
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What business is that of yours??
 
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IPorange said:
You are telling me that I was never a Christian those 20 years of my life because I am not one now without even knowing me, feel you can confidently say Catholics (and I assume Anglicans, Eastern Orthodox, and Russian Orthodox people) are not really Christians because you personally studied the matter, and breathlessly tell me wrong information about a subject matter I specialize in (climate change) when describing the reasons for your beliefs on the matter. Ya, I am a real jackass.

I would still like to hear your version of the timeline of the Christian faith, starting with his death.
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Ok, so, if you were a Christian, and I actually never said you weren't I just questioned that you thought you were one, why did you leave?? Did you feel you couldn't live up to the expectations?? Did you somehow think science was going to solve all the world's problems?? Oh, and as far as Global Warming goes, you've had a fellow engineer echo most of the same exact things I have said, yet you don't take him seriously at all, only yourself. Sorry my friend, it doesn't take an engineer to figure out what it bunk and what isn't , as far as scientific theories go. I learned how to do that in the 7th grade or earlier. I would love, and Jesus more than I, to see you rededicate your life to Christ. I love when people become saved, it let's me know that there is hope for the human race and the possibility of peace.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Oh, and as far as Global Warming goes, you've had a fellow engineer echo most of the same exact things I have said, yet you don't take him seriously at all, only yourself. Sorry my friend, it doesn't take an engineer to figure out what it bunk and what isn't , as far as scientific theories go. I learned how to do that in the 7th grade or earlier..
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You might have your fancy smancy science IP, but I've got my gut.
 
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666 said:
You might have your fancy smancy science IP, but I've got my gut.
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I noticed that you chose the universal sign of the Devil, 666, as your username. Seems to me that you believe there is a Satan, so you must believe that there is a God?
 
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Nah, 665 was already taken.

My username doesn't equate to my religious views. Are you a vampire or a big fan of the movie twilight?
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Ok, so, if you were a Christian, and I actually never said you weren't I just questioned that you thought you were one, why did you leave?? Did you feel you couldn't live up to the expectations?? Did you somehow think science was going to solve all the world's problems?? Oh, and as far as Global Warming goes, you've had a fellow engineer echo most of the same exact things I have said, yet you don't take him seriously at all, only yourself. Sorry my friend, it doesn't take an engineer to figure out what it bunk and what isn't , as far as scientific theories go. I learned how to do that in the 7th grade or earlier. I would love, and Jesus more than I, to see you rededicate your life to Christ. I love when people become saved, it let's me know that there is hope for the human race and the possibility of peace.
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I left because I grew up and quit believing in invisible super beings. I learned about all sorts of cultures who each thought they had the answers. I learned about themes that are in the Bible that were actually popular in several mystic groups in the Middle East around the same time. I heard outright lies about science being told to me by one too many preachers. I saw the incredibly poor record the Church had over major issues, over time for being the one organization in touch with the almighty and all-knowing God. I heard one too many Christian judge and decide another human being, such as saying Catholics don't follow Christ. I learned about the arbitrary nature of the selection of the books of the Bible. etc. etc. etc.

Basically, I learned too many contradictory details. And that's not even getting into the neurological and psychological aspects of religion.

Here, let's try this: If there is a God, may I never be able to post on this forum again.
 
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IPorange said:
I left because I grew up and quit believing in invisible super beings. I learned about all sorts of cultures who each thought they had the answers. I learned about themes that are in the Bible that were actually popular in several mystic groups in the Middle East around the same time. I heard outright lies about science being told to me by one too many preachers. I saw the incredibly poor record the Church had over major issues, over time for being the one organization in touch with the almighty and all-knowing God. I heard one too many Christian judge and decide another human being, such as saying Catholics don't follow Christ. I learned about the arbitrary nature of the selection of the books of the Bible. etc. etc. etc.

Basically, I learned too many contradictory details. And that's not even getting into the neurological and psychological aspects of religion.

Here, let's try this: If there is a God, may I never be able to post on this forum again.
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I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but I never said that Catholics don't follow Christ, I said that the two religions we were discussing were different because of doctrine and Bibles. Sometimes man, the simple things make the most sense, instead of trying to figure everything out. I don't have everything figured out myself, but God has started me off pretty good. I really hope that one day you decide to come back, your always going to be welcome. I will give you this advice though, sometimes books can be a bad thing and confuse the soul. I've seen too many people get in too deep in religion and they lose their ways, sounds like what happened to you really. I will pray for you though. My dad was 58 before he gave his life to Christ, and his dad was a Pentecostal/Gideon preacher. It takes time for a lot of people.
 
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666 said:
Nah, 665 was already taken.

My username doesn't equate to my religious views. Are you a vampire or a big fan of the movie twilight?
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I guess you did it for the shock value. I can understand that. Keep everyone guessing.
 
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IPorange said:
I left because I grew up and quit believing in invisible super beings. I learned about all sorts of cultures who each thought they had the answers. I learned about themes that are in the Bible that were actually popular in several mystic groups in the Middle East around the same time. I heard outright lies about science being told to me by one too many preachers. I saw the incredibly poor record the Church had over major issues, over time for being the one organization in touch with the almighty and all-knowing God. I heard one too many Christian judge and decide another human being, such as saying Catholics don't follow Christ. I learned about the arbitrary nature of the selection of the books of the Bible. etc. etc. etc.

Basically, I learned too many contradictory details. And that's not even getting into the neurological and psychological aspects of religion.

Here, let's try this: If there is a God, may I never be able to post on this forum again.
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Hate you had a bad experience. I have always said there is nothing worse than a carnal Christian opening their mouth. It's the main reason why we have churches on every corner.
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