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hog88 said:
Ok, I’m confused and maybe you can help me. I stopped donating to the Boy Scouts when they started allowing gay Scout Leaders and then when they allowed girls in it sealed the deal for me. However I’ve always contributed to my old 4-H chapter even though it’s been co-ed forever and I don’t think there ever was a ban on gay chapter leaders. Am I a bigot?
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Why did you stop because of the gay leader thing?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
That is exactly how the free market is supposed to work.

It is the same as I feel about my beloved UT. All the woke policies have stopped any future donations I would ever make to the school. My 'union' has done my demographic wrong, and I have ceased any contributions (other than what is forced on me thru agency shop) thereto as well.
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Must not be too strong of a believer then...
 
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VOLS INC. said:
This all comes down to affirmation versus repentance.

A biblical approach would be something like “We love you. You are welcome here. We want to help you fight this sinful behavior so that you can walk in the way of Christ”.

What is happening in this situation. “We love you. Jesus loves you. And you are perfect just the way you are”. Which is a lie. If people aren't willing to call homosexuality a sin, they make God out to be a liar. If they aren’t willing to fight sin, choosing rather to celebrate it, they mock God and defy His Word. There is no such thing as a “Gay Christian”. Just like there isn’t a “Greedy Christian” or an “Adulterous Christian” etc. There are just Christian’s (myself included) that need to repent and fight against the sin in their lives in order to worship God in a manner that is worthy of His Holiness.

Now I realize to many, this is foolishness. I shared it anyhow.
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Spot on.

hog88 said:
Ok, I’m confused and maybe you can help me. I stopped donating to the Boy Scouts when they started allowing gay Scout Leaders and then when they allowed girls in it sealed the deal for me. However I’ve always contributed to my old 4-H chapter even though it’s been co-ed forever and I don’t think there ever was a ban on gay chapter leaders. Am I a bigot?
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I am an Eagle Scout and did the same (though I don’t have a local 4h)
 
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Gandalf said:
Spot on.



I am an Eagle Scout and did the same (though I don’t have a local 4h)
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I never made it past 1 Pinewood derby as a Cub Scout, it conflicted with 4H but my son and nephews were/are in cub and Boy Scouts so I contributed.
 
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hog88 said:
Ok, I’m confused and maybe you can help me. I stopped donating to the Boy Scouts when they started allowing gay Scout Leaders and then when they allowed girls in it sealed the deal for me. However I’ve always contributed to my old 4-H chapter even though it’s been co-ed forever and I don’t think there ever was a ban on gay chapter leaders. Am I a bigot?
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If your decision was based on gay scout leaders then yes you made a bigoted decision. Exactly what does being gay have to do with learning to tie knots or pitching tents (obvious jokes aside)? And have you seen the decades of abuse within the organization by straight scout leaders? BS were doing their best to keep up with the Catholic Church apparently.

Lifting the ban on gay leaders and allowing girls was years apart? So did you pull your donation then start again?
 
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Actually, I suspect that several VN lefties would have been happiest in the Young Pioneers
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(Of course this is where the lefties respond with a Hitler Youth meme tarring the right. (See I think ahead several moves. Go ahead and play your pawn and I will respond)
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Christianity is indeed under attack, when its so-called adherents embrace anti-Christian positions or actions. I don't mind Republicans, though I detest Republiars, but the following is something I have to agree with. You're a Christian or a saboteur of Christianity, one or the other, you can't be both.

Christian school that embraced the LGBTQ community is forced to close its doors
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Always know your audience (or rather, your benefactors) lol.. I sometimes have to pretend to be ‘woke’ at work about things when I’m really not comfortable because I don’t want to lose my job lol.. had to do it in nursing school and graduate school also
 
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LadyVolette said:
Always know your audience (or rather, your benefactors) lol.. I sometimes have to pretend to be ‘woke’ at work about things when I’m really not comfortable because I don’t want to lose my job lol.. had to do it in nursing school and graduate school also
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Tough balance to make I know. The first effect of totalitarianism is to make people hide their true beliefs in order to survive in the barrage of lies from the leadership. You have my sympathy.
The woke live a lie and they demand that we join them in their delusions lest the truth destroy their distorted perception of reality
 
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hog88 said:
I thought the cub scouts were ok but 4H was 100x more fun.
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Cub scouts was too weird by the time my son got there in 2010… all of the boys had to have a parent present at all times even though we knew the other parents, kids, leaders, etc (I know it was because of molestation allegations)… my daughter, I could just drop her off at Girl Scouts
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Tough balance to make I know. The first effect of totalitarianism is to make people hide their true beliefs in order to survive in the barrage of lies from the leadership. You have my sympathy.
The woke live a lie and they demand that we join them in their delusions lest the truth destroy their distorted perception of reality
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Pretty much.. I just keep my mouth shut, which I know is also wrong
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
If your decision was based on gay scout leaders then yes you made a bigoted decision. Exactly what does being gay have to do with learning to tie knots or pitching tents (obvious jokes aside)? And have you seen the decades of abuse within the organization by straight scout leaders? BS were doing their best to keep up with the Catholic Church apparently.

Lifting the ban on gay leaders and allowing girls was years apart? So did you pull your donation then start again?
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When my nephews joined the cub scouts I was going to donate to their pack and shortly after they started letting in girls so I didn’t.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Actually, I suspect that several VN lefties would have been happiest in the Young Pioneers
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(Of course this is where the lefties respond with a Hitler Youth meme tarring the right. (See I think ahead several moves. Go ahead and play your pawn and I will respond)
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Man, you got a lot of hate buried in you. Consider getting some help.
 
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