You knew it wouldn't be long after the tragedy for this to be brought up

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utvolpj said:
maybe the second part works but I fail to see how no guns would make this a perfect world. I own quite a few and have never misused them and I'm sure that holds true for the vast majority of gun owners. You shouldn't allow a few isolated incidents to control your entire belief
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Sadly these incididents aren't that isolated. In fact they are becoming more and more frequent. Check put the growing # of school shootings alone in the US since 2000. Then compare it to other countries.

School shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I dont support an outright ban. I completely understand wanting a gun to protect your home/land or hunt if that's your thing (it's not mine). Like I said before, I don't know what the solution is but something needs to be done to prevent the loonies from easily acquiring weapons.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Sadly these incididents aren't that isolated. In fact they are becoming more and more frequent. Check put the growing # of school shootings alone in the US since 2000. Then compare it to other countries.

School shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I dont support an outright ban. I completely understand wanting a gun to protect your home/land or hunt if that's your thing (it's not mine). Like I said before, I don't know what the solution is but something needs to be done to prevent the loonies from easily acquiring weapons.
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Schools have stared doing more inclusion during that time span
 
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OrangeYankee said:
I know this is morbid but it sounds like this guy was intent on doing some damage that night. Had he not gotten his hands on guns (legally or illegally), he would have rigged up explosives and waltzed into the theater that way. I'm going to guess an explosion in that place would have done more damage. It's kind of funny they want to blame the tool and not ever really dig deep into the absolute moral decay of this society that causes these problems, but they that may make people squirm a bit. And even then, it's not the government's place to step in and enforce anything.
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LOL, so his having guns resulted in less fatalities????

Jesus, you gun nuts need to get a grip on reality.
 
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lawgator1 said:
LOL, so his having guns resulted in less fatalities????

Jesus, you gun nuts need to get a grip on reality.
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the reality is that he killed people with 2 of the most popular home defense weapons on the market

The man is pure evil and would have come up with a plan to kill regardless of what weapons were available
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
the reality is that he killed people with 2 of the most popular home defense weapons on the market

The man is pure evil and would have come up with a plan to kill regardless of what weapons were available
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not to mention the 870 is one of, if not the most, popular shotgun for hunting
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
the reality is that he killed people with 2 of the most popular home defense weapons on the market

The man is pure evil and would have come up with a plan to kill regardless of what weapons were available
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Very True.

He would have made some type of bomb that may have killed more people than he did with the guns.
 
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lawgator1 said:
LOL, so his having guns resulted in less fatalities????

Jesus, you gun nuts need to get a grip on reality.
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It was certainly speculative on OY's part but step back from your (albeit expected) bias and ponder for a moment:

1. We know the dude is bat***t nuts and wanted to kill people.

2. We know the dude had explosive devices knowledge.
Aurora, Colo. Shooting: Explosives in suspected shooter's apt. successfully deactivated - Crimesider - CBS News

So exactly how far fetched, really, is the idea that if he wasn't going to shoot people he'd have just gone with bombs/incendiaries? As to how loss of life would have turned out in those circumstances I'm not personally willing to speculate. Too many variables.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
the reality is that he killed people with 2 of the most popular home defense weapons on the market

The man is pure evil and would have come up with a plan to kill regardless of what weapons were available
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Guns made it much, much easier. And had the AR not jammed ...
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Sadly these incididents aren't that isolated. In fact they are becoming more and more frequent. Check put the growing # of school shootings alone in the US since 2000. Then compare it to other countries.

School shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I dont support an outright ban. I completely understand wanting a gun to protect your home/land or hunt if that's your thing (it's not mine). Like I said before, I don't know what the solution is but something needs to be done to prevent the loonies from easily acquiring weapons.
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Bath School disaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Sadly these incididents aren't that isolated. In fact they are becoming more and more frequent. Check put the growing # of school shootings alone in the US since 2000. Then compare it to other countries.

School shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I dont support an outright ban. I completely understand wanting a gun to protect your home/land or hunt if that's your thing (it's not mine). Like I said before, I don't know what the solution is but something needs to be done to prevent the loonies from easily acquiring weapons.
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I am anti-gun, but since a large portion of the population would get up in arms (pun intended) if guns are outlawed, i have a solution. Subject all potential gun owners to a psychological exam. Those deemed to be threats not only to themselves but also the general population are banned from having them. And, every set amount of time, they must be reevaluated.

I will get flamed for this, but i see it as a viable way for people to keep their guns while making it a little safer for others.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Subject all potential gun owners to a psychological exam. Those deemed to be threats not only to themselves but also the general population are banned from having them. And, every set amount of time, they must be reevaluated.
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Where does it end? Certainly a multitude of ways for someone to kill another person(s).
 
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#116
Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those
who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...
Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for
the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to
prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with
greater confidence than an armed man.

Cesare Beccaria (1735-1794)
quoted in Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776



Registration today always leads to confiscation later.
"We're only asking for registration today because we want to
be able to trace a gun back to its rightful owner," they
claim. That's what the City of New York told it's residents
years ago. That's what Great Britain and Australia told
their citizens years ago. And in all those places the
government went back on its word and banned guns...Naturally
compliance has not been 100%, so the government threatens
holdouts with 4 years in prison and $100,000 fines. It then
uses the registration lists to go house-to-house and
forcibly steal private property....leaving the people
defenseless against the new violent crimes that predictably
followed...

Boston T. Party
Boston's' Gun Bible p. 32/32
 
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#118
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myrobbins7 said:
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg told CNN's Piers Morgan last night that he doesn't "understand why police officers across this country don’t stand up collectively and say we’re going to go on strike, we’re not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what’s required to keep us safe."

Mayor Bloomberg Says Cops Should Go On Strike Until Americans Give Up Their Guns - Hit & Run : Reason.com
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I'll consider it when every assault/rape/murder/home invasion/etc falls squarely on the heads of the government for NOT being there when it happened.

The police/government are not actually charged with protecting YOU, they are charged with protecting "society at large". Bloomberg's pompous ass needs to go read Warren v District of Columbia.
 
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Victim's Brother To MSNBC: Families Not Here To Talk About Gun Control | RealClearPolitics

Golf Clap for Mr. Ghawi

Michael Eric Dyson, guest host on MSNBC's Ed Show: Do you think that there should be a push for tighter gun laws given the horror that you just endured and how it has impacted you personally? Do you feel compelled to push for tighter gun laws?

Jordan Ghawi, brother of victim Jessica Ghawi: Here's the thing, we can try to politicize this and make some sort of polarizing debate and make this a tenet of the election, but that's not what we're here to do right now. We're here to celebrate the lives of the victims that have been lost.

If somebody wants to do harm to somebody, they're going to find a way to do it. Whether it be with a weapon, such as a rifle or whether it be with any sort of means we should actually start to think about why people are doing this. And the reason why they're doing this is because they want their names out there.
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#121
Yeah... Only arming police officers is a great idea, because they're never wrong.

On July 15, 2012, at 1:30 a.m. in Leesburg, Florida, Lake County deputies knocked on the door of 26-year-old Andrew Lee Scott’s apartment, thinking attempted murder suspect Jonathan Brown was inside. *They did not identify themselves in any way. Brown had been seen earlier in the apartment complex, and his motorcycle was parked near Scott’s apartment. This was the only “evidence” of his presence. When Scott opened his door with a gun in his hand, a deputy opened fire, killing Scott. Brown was later found in a nearby apartment and arrested.
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PJ Media » SWAT and the Second Amendment
 
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myrobbins7 said:
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg told CNN's Piers Morgan last night that he doesn't "understand why police officers across this country don’t stand up collectively and say we’re going to go on strike, we’re not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what’s required to keep us safe."

Mayor Bloomberg Says Cops Should Go On Strike Until Americans Give Up Their Guns - Hit & Run : Reason.com
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Might be a good idea if I was dependent on the police/ government to protect me.
 
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