You will all hate alabama

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tvolsfan said:
I love how you criticize us for saying this, but spew off garbage about 5 in a row like any of that pertains to the future.
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I point out 5 in a row to stick it to a rival.

I'm confident Meyer will bring in a competent DC, one with head coaching aspirations who will come in and do a great job. Charlie will be missed, but I'm not bummed about it. Life goes on.

I think UF will be fine, just like you think UT will own Florida. Time will tell as to who's right.
 
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#53
When did I say UT will own Florida? I think that starting in 2011, UT will be playing Florida evenly. I may be wrong, but there is no real way to argue that Meyer can dominate Kiffin. He had his chance this year, and he couldn't. The talent gap between the teams will never be as big as it was this past year.
 
#55
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tvolsfan said:
Those two blocked FG's and blocked extra point against South Carolina were routine.
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The plate on the 2006 Coaches Trophy still says "UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA", so it's all good as far as I'm concerned.

A certain degree of luck is usually involved with winning a national title.

Bama's blocked FGs against you guys aren't "routine", but I guarantee you Bama fans are okay with that kind of "luck".
 
#57
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Lawrence Wright said:
The plate on the 2006 Coaches Trophy still says "UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA", so it's all good as far as I'm concerned.

A certain degree of luck is usually involved with winning a national title.

Bama's blocked FGs against you guys aren't "routine", but I guarantee you Bama fans are okay with that kind of "luck".
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You realize you're talking to UT fans right? Everyone here knows that the only thing there was a god-awful kicker kicking the ball into a players armpit. Bama definitely got lucky there. Bama did not escape like UF did in so many games. They also didn't lose and need help to reach the title game.
 
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tvolsfan said:
When did I say UT will own Florida? I think that starting in 2011, UT will be playing Florida evenly. I may be wrong, but there is no real way to argue that Meyer can dominate Kiffin. He had his chance this year, and he couldn't. The talent gap between the teams will never be as big as it was this past year.
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And I never argued Meyer would dominate Kiffin.

We actually are on the same page here. After the 2011 season, Tennessee should be ramped up with enough recruits to compete with Florida.

It remains to be seen if Kiffin can join Saban and Meyer as the SEC's elite coaches. He's not in the same league with those guys right now.
 
#59
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Lawrence Wright said:
And I never argued Meyer would dominate Kiffin.

We actually are on the same page here. After the 2011 season, Tennessee should be ramped up with enough recruits to compete with Florida.

It remains to be seen if Kiffin can join Saban and Meyer as the SEC's elite coaches. He's not in the same league with those guys right now.
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You could argue Meyer isn't in the same league as Saban.

I'm not necessarily sure I'd agree with that, but many on here would.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
And I never argued Meyer would dominate Kiffin.

We actually are on the same page here. After the 2011 season, Tennessee should be ramped up with enough recruits to compete with Florida.

It remains to be seen if Kiffin can join Saban and Meyer as the SEC's elite coaches. He's not in the same league with those guys right now.
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Meyer and Sabans legacys take years to obtain. Kiffin is just getting started.

To get to where those 2 are, you have to have good players first ( which he seems to be able to get). Then second you have to be able to develop them, and coach them in game situations. (Meyer and Saban have proven they can, even before UF and Bama)

Kiffin showed signs of being able to develop and coach them in game situations this year, but he still has a long way to go. I want to see what he can do, when he gets the talent level more even. That will be the tell, moreso than now.
 
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#61
Lawrence Wright said:
But we do gain John Brantley for two years.

Get ready to hate him too.
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Your best WR this year will be making a living playing BASEBALL. And we shut down your passing game this year anyway. The most damage UF did on UT's D was with the option, and Brantley can't run that.
 
#62
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tvolsfan said:
You realize you're talking to UT fans right? Everyone here knows that the only thing there was a god-awful kicker kicking the ball into a players armpit. Bama definitely got lucky there. Bama did not escape like UF did in so many games. They also didn't lose and need help to reach the title game.
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Delusion exists in every fan base.

At the end of the day the only thing that matters is the name on the trophy.
 
#63
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SGMVols said:
Your best WR this year will be making a living playing BASEBALL. And we shut down your passing game this year anyway. The most damage UF did on UT's D was with the option, and Brantley can't run that.
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Clearly UF is doomed with Brantley.

You're beginning to sway me.
 
#64
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tvolsfan said:
You could argue Meyer isn't in the same league as Saban.

I'm not necessarily sure I'd agree with that, but many on here would.
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Yes you could.

But considering Meyer has a 2-1 record against Saban and one more national title, you could easily argue the opposite.

I think both are great coaches.

I also think Kiffin is nowhere close to that level as a head coach. To argue otherwise is foolish.
 
#65
#65
Kiffin will be fine. He doesn't have the resume, but he outcoached Saban this year, and you could argue he outcoached Meyer as well.
 
#66
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tvolsfan said:
Kiffin will be fine. He doesn't have the resume, but he outcoached Saban this year, and you could argue he outcoached Meyer as well.
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If by outcoaching Meyer you mean being okay with not getting blown out and not actually trying to win, then we are in agreement.
 
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Meyer walked into a load UF team, and has kept them that way since he got their.

Kiffin walked into a situation similar to Saban. Talent down below the standards of winning championships. Saban has had time to build that up.( And he has) Kiffin on the other hand has not had that time. In three years, you can say Kiffin is either on their level, or not. At this point the only thing you can say, is that he can recruit with both of them.
 
#68
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BeecherVol said:
Meyer walked into a load UF team, and has kept them that way since he got their.

Kiffin walked into a situation similar to Saban. Talent down below the standards of winning championships. Saban has had time to build that up.( And he has) Kiffin on the other hand has not had that time. In three years, you can say Kiffin is either on their level, or not. At this point the only thing you can say, is that he can recruit with both of them.
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That's a fair assessment.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
If by outcoaching Meyer you mean being okay with not getting blown out and not actually trying to win, then we are in agreement.
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I love how you argue UT wasn't trying to win. Did you expect him to air it out with a mediocre quarterback? It isn't like UT just took a knee every time and punted.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I love how you argue UT wasn't trying to win. Did you expect him to air it out with a mediocre quarterback? It isn't like UT just took a knee every time and punted.
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Kiffin didn't exactly have a sense of urgency on offense, regardless of what he had at QB.

You and I both know Kiffin didn't coach to win that game. His goal was not to get embarrassed. He succeeded. We only won by 10.
 
#71
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Lawrence Wright said:
Keep thinking that....you'll sleep much better.

Brantley is a damn good QB.
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You don't know that....The only time you have seen him play is when UF is up 55-0 and the other team has given up...We are going to see what he can do next season but do not be surprised if he falls on his face more than once during the season....He is way overhyped
 
#72
#72
Lawrence Wright said:
Delusion exists in every fan base.

At the end of the day the only thing that matters is the name on the trophy.
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You got that right...UF fans actually believing they were the type of team to go undefeated was laughable at best...Only special teams with the guts to win them all accomplish such things.
 
#73
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VOLnMiami said:
You don't know that....The only time you have seen him play is when UF is up 55-0 and the other team has given up...We are going to see what he can do next season but do not be surprised if he falls on his face more than once during the season....He is way overhyped
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Who's hyping Brantley other than Gator fans who've seen him play? ESPN? I'll say it again, UF's QB situation is in good hands for the next two years with John Brantley. He's not Tebow, and he won't have to be Tebow to be successful.

And no, I won't be surprised if he makes a mistake or two as a first time starter. However I'll be very surprised if whoever is under center for UT has a better year than Brantley.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Kiffin didn't exactly have a sense of urgency on offense, regardless of what he had at QB.

You and I both know Kiffin didn't coach to win that game. His goal was not to get embarrassed. He succeeded. We only won by 10.
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You are ridiculous...Kiffin was trying to win the game...He got into Meyers head so much he almost pulled it off with a rebuilding project of a team...You keep saying that to yourself when Kiffin;s future teams are stomping mudholes in Meyers teams...Then come back and tell us he wasn't trying to win the game :eek:lol:
 
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