Your Memphis Grizzlies Basketball Thread III

#17,527
#17,527
YankeeVol said:
100% should be. Well except maybe Tyus (unless they can get something better in return).
Roddy, LaRivia, and Konchar are lucky to be on an NBA roster. Ziaire is a G-Leaguer. Complete roster mismanagement from the FO. At this point its comical how smart they think they are (hint, they aren't).
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You can't talk bad about Jitty and his $6MM+ per year extension through 26.....

You don't know the game or some crap like that
 
#17,528
#17,528
BigOrangeMojo said:
You can't talk bad about Jitty and his $6MM+ per year extension through 26.....

You don't know the game or some crap like that
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It’s not 6m+ per year. He doesn’t even make $6m in total until 2025. Wonder how high the cap will be then? You know what, never mind.

He’s the 11th highest paid player on the team

This is one of the dumbest possible hills to die on but don’t let me stop you
 
#17,529
#17,529
TBrown said:
It’s not 6m+ per year. He doesn’t even make $6m in total until 2025. Wonder how high the cap will be then? You know what, never mind.

He’s the 11th highest paid player on the team

This is one of the dumbest possible hills to die on but don’t let me stop you
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Still a bad move no matter what metrics you want to use...

The $6.2m wouldn't be the 11th highest right now. It would be 35% higher than the 7th highest paid player. It will likely be the 6th or 7th largest contract in 24-25 because Ja and Des's extensions will be in the cap then. Aggresively extending and paying rotation money to a DNP-CD playoff player isn't a smart move for a small market team.

The best part of this deal is that it pretty much guarantees they won't resign Dillon.
 
#17,530
#17,530
BigOrangeMojo said:
Still a bad move no matter what metrics you want to use...

The $6.2m wouldn't be the 11th highest right now. It would be 35% higher than the 7th highest paid player. It will likely be the 6th or 7th largest contract in 24-25 because Ja and Des's extensions will be in the cap then. Aggresively extending and paying rotation money to a DNP-CD playoff player isn't a smart move for a small market team.

The best part of this deal is that it pretty much guarantees they won't resign Dillon.
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None of those things are actually true.
 
#17,531
#17,531
TBrown said:
None of those things are actually true.
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Konchar did not play in G4 and played last 20 seconds of G1

The only players making more than 6.2in 22-23 are

Ja, JJJ, Adams, Kennard, Dillon, Tyus. The next highest guy is Ziaire in the 4.5s. Wanna multiply 1.35 by 4.5MM. It gets really close to 6.2MM.

In 24-25, the Grizz will have 60 million more in cap obligations to Ja/Bane than 22-23. If you think they are going to resign DB, Tyus, Kennard and then add 4 more players to make Konchar the 11th highest player, you are crazy.

Just a reminder: In WCF season, they traded 2 rotation pieces (including their best/only shooter) and lightly protected 1st to dump salary and get Leuer.
 
#17,532
#17,532
I don't dislike Jitty. I just didn't see the upside in aggressively extending him given the projected finances/how team has operated in past..
 
#17,533
#17,533
BigOrangeMojo said:
Konchar did not play in G4 and played last 20 seconds of G1

The only players making more than 6.2in 22-23 are

Ja, JJJ, Adams, Kennard, Dillon, Tyus. The next highest guy is Ziaire in the 4.5s. Wanna multiply 1.35 by 4.5MM. It gets really close to 6.2MM.

In 24-25, the Grizz will have 60 million more in cap obligations to Ja/Bane than 22-23. If you think they are going to resign DB, Tyus, Kennard and then add 4 more players to make Konchar the 11th highest player, you are crazy.

Just a reminder: In WCF season, they traded 2 rotation pieces (including their best/only shooter) and lightly protected 1st to dump salary and get Leuer.
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John Konchar makes $2.3m this season.
 
#17,536
#17,536
TBrown said:
John Konchar makes $2.3m this season.
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Yes, he is 11th this season but once his new pay kicks in, he will likely be 6th-7th. Again, I dont see the upside here in extending him 2 yrs early. You have to be a playoff rotation piece to justify that IMO...
 
#17,538
#17,538
Problems on this team:

1.a. Dillon Brooks
1.b. Ja Morant
1.c. Steven Adams injury






6,165,000. John Konchar’s contract
 
#17,540
#17,540
gordonr24 said:
Agree with all 3. However, I’d put Dillon Brooks in its own category.
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Thought about it for sure but decided he’s not relevant enough to the outcome of the game to be atop the leader board all alone. Ja’s usage and “defense” are major factors in final score.
 
#17,542
#17,542
TBrown said:
Thought about it for sure but decided he’s not relevant enough to the outcome of the game to be atop the leader board all alone. Ja’s usage and “defense” are major factors in final score.
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Watching this series I don’t like your offensive sets either. Feels like you could be a lot more creative with Ja/JJJ/Bane

(Also #FreeTyus)
 
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#17,544
#17,544
zjcvols said:
Watching this series I don’t like your offensive sets either. Feels like you could be a lot more creative with Ja/JJJ/Bane

(Also #FreeTyus)
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The move to only throw Jaren the ball in the center of the lane surrounded by 3 people is wild to me. This is something we’ve almost never done. He’s amazing attacking off the bounce. He’s amazing defending the rim.

He’s playing offense in the center of the lane and he’s playing defense on the corner 3’s. The whole thing is mind numbing.
 
#17,545
#17,545
TBrown said:
He’s a total pain in the ass but he’s a largely irrelevant replacement level player.

Ja has the ball every second and is attacked defensively every single possession.
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Dillon gets 30+ minutes per and has a usage rate roughly equal to JJJ. And doesn’t rebound well. And is regressing offensively but still chucking shots as a top 3 offensive weapon.

He’s not irrelevant in how he is allowed to play/is used. He’s an anchor.
 
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#17,546
95 Vol Alum said:
Dillon gets 30+ minutes per and has a usage rate roughly equal to JJJ. And doesn’t rebound well. And is regressing offensively but still chucking shots as a top 3 offensive weapon.

He’s not irrelevant in how he is allowed to play/is used. He’s an anchor.
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Sure. He’s also the only quasi competent perimeter defender on the team. The rest fall somewhere between frighteningly bad and dead grandmas.
 
#17,549
#17,549
TBrown said:
Problems on this team:

1.a. Dillon Brooks
1.b. Ja Morant
1.c. Steven Adams injury






6,165,000. John Konchar’s contract
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We will see this offseason. If we bring back a competent, long term replacement/improvement for DB, then Konchar's contract isn't an issue. If we bring back the same bums or even worse, Dillon on a team friendly team, then ITYS....
 
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