Zaay Green

[Coach Jumper]

My question is why are we spending so much time discussing if Zay is here to stay, or on her way out of town? Yes we will lose a good player if we lose Zay, however right now it is just a rumor. We need to deal with reality. The nature of the beast in women’s basketball is every year several players will be entering the portal. The reasons will vary from the desire to win championships, not fitting into the program, or disliking fellow players or the coaching staff.

this post has been about 10% about her and 90% pot pouri

 

[T_Vol376]

My question is why are we spending so much time discussing if Zay is here to stay, or on her way out of town? Yes we will lose a good player if we lose Zay, however right now it is just a rumor. We need to deal with reality. The nature of the beast in women’s basketball is every year several players will be entering the portal. The reasons will vary from the desire to win championships, not fitting into the program, or disliking fellow players or the coaching staff.

It’s not a rumor. She announced it on her Instagram five days ago. The reason was cited in this thread - post #138, but you can read between the lines in her announcement. I really hate it - was looking forward to having her back. Wish her the best.

 

[NeedOrange]

Seems to be your stock response when you won't defend yourself.

or can't. one way to come off as an expert is to develop your own terminology. I built applications and databases and had a teammate that came up with strange words that kind of made sense. As terminology is quick to change in IT, I would think, "I need to check into that and see how it works". It wasn't long before everyone knew he didn't know what he was talking about.

 

[NeedOrange]

Good lord man, do you always get this emotional when someone says they disagree with you?
First, my pointing out that I am a CPA has nothing to do with thinking I am important or that people should be impressed. I was responding to you calling me ignorant about UT’s finances. I was attempting to point out that I did have a pretty good grasp of finance and would be back shortly with some numbers and so here I am. As an aside, does that chip on your shoulder get heavy? Jeez!
Background information:
UT like most educational institutions and other non-profits has fiscal years that run 7-1-xx to 6-30-xx.
Holly was fired March 2019, Kelly hired April 2019. Both FY 2019
Butch Jones fired Nov 2017. Fulmer takes over as AD Dec 2017. Both FY 2018.
Historically UT’s athletic department has done pretty well. Usually break even or a little surplus. It looks like the athletic department has used surpluses to pay for capital improvements, build up a reserve fund and sometimes even send a little money to academics.
Financial Results:
FY 2018 deficit of 6.5m
FY 2019 surplus .79m
2018 was particularly bad because the university had to book 13.8m in buyouts. Currie 2.2m and the rest for Butch and assistants. It is important to realize, however, that the Butch buyout although booked in total in FY 18 will be paid out yearly through 2021. So not all of that deficit was cash out in FY 2018 but it is about a 3m a year cash bogey Phil has got to cover.
I could not find a balance sheet so I’m not sure what cash was looking like but I do know that in FY 2018 the athletic reserve fund went from 17.1m to 9.5m. Dropping by almost half. Phil was obviously funding something from past surpluses, probably capital improvements and buy outs. Regardless if I am the AD finance person this makes me uneasy.
Additionally from FY 2018 to FY 2019:
Ticket sales revenue flat
Contributions down 2.8m (doesn’t look like big booster stepped up to cover buyouts)
Media rev up 1.4m
Conf share rev up .7m
Royalties rev down .6 mil
Bowl rev unchanged at 0 (ouch)
Salaries expense up 3.4m Pruitt and staff?
So all of these changes net to a 4.8m negative p&l change for 2019. And, Phil knows he’s still got to cover Butch et. al. for approx 3 million and he/Currie drained 8 million out of the athletic reserve fund last year and he still has a lot of improvements scheduled for Neyland. You will recall, however Phil put a pause on those plans until further review.

So yes, I think the numbers speak to Phil maybe not feeling like putting out a huge salary for the new Women’s basketball coach (Holly also had a buyout around 1m) even though he is a big LV supporter.

well done, Ma'am!

 

[Coach Jumper]

or can't. one way to come off as an expert is to develop your own terminology. I built applications and databases and had a teammate that came up with strange words that kind of made sense. As terminology is quick to change in IT, I would think, "I need to check into that and see how it works". It wasn't long before everyone knew he didn't know what he was talking about.

@Bballnut1952 I get it, people are bored and want some excitement. I'm just not in the excitement mood right now. Go play elsewhere. When a real conversation or one that intrigues me starts, I will jump in.

All coaches and pretty much any occupation in life has people who are creative. "Baseline forward is pretty self-explanatory'

Get a life, man.
You're like a little child.
And now you've got Anita Bryant jumping in
I'm done with this topic so'
YAWN!

Deal with it

 

[Rickster]

 

[Coach Jumper]

pretends to care

 

[Rickster]

 

[Coach Jumper]

gif wars?.. I;m leaving

 

[Rickster]

 

[Bballnut1952]

@Bballnut1952 I get it, people are bored and want some excitement. I'm just not in the excitement mood right now. Go play elsewhere. When a real conversation or one that intrigues me starts, I will jump in.

All coaches and pretty much any occupation in life has people who are creative. "Baseline forward is pretty self-explanatory'

Get a life, man.
You're like a little child.
And now you've got Anita Bryant jumping in
I'm done with this topic so'
YAWN!

Deal with it

I would suggest YOU deal with it. You're the one with the made up positions. Baseline forward.....too funny.

 

[Coach Jumper]

at one time the 4 out 1 in was the unknown joke of an offense,
it has then since become a standard
you never know

My use of a forward who patrols the baseline replaces the shooting guard, a position which employs a person who's only/primary skill is to shoot.

Such a position and the use thereof would employ the skillset of Rae perfectly

Those "shooters" were often used by opposing coaches as targets on offensive-switches, bc they weren't usually as physically gifted as forwards.

Add in that everybody on this team CAN shoot a 3

Think about who was often switched to get by our opponents last year.
I'm just saying

 

[Decker Moss]

I’m not doubting what you know, but thank god Kasi and Jordan have thicker skin than Jaz. Lots of positive things were also said about Jaz and her improvement this past year. If any players got the majority of negative comments it was Kasi and Jordan. I’m just glad they realize that those negative comments are a tiny minority of Lady Vol fans.

I know what I know. And yes the postings here were relevant. That is all I will say.
Capt O is one of fav new characters, yes,
right up the with Allstate's Mayhem (They could have done so much more with him)

anyway, looks like vultures are circling ad I'm not looking for a fight tonight so I will only check in sporadically...gonna enjoy the evening and watch my DVR'd Wrestlemania
TTFN...
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[Bballnut1952]

at one time the 4 out 1 in was the unknown joke of an offense,
it has then since become a standard
you never know

My use of a forward who patrols the baseline replaces the shooting guard, a position which employs a person who's only/primary skill is to shoot.

Such a position and the use thereof would employ the skillset of Rae perfectly

Those "shooters" were often used by opposing coaches as targets on offensive-switches, bc they weren't usually as physically gifted as forwards.

Add in that everybody on this team CAN shoot a 3

Think about who was often switched to get by our opponents last year.
I'm just saying

Jay Wright, the inventor of the 4 out 1 in offense

I'm not sure if it was a joke or not.

You're not comparing yourself to Jay Wright now, are you? The baseline forward will become as standard as the 4 out 1 in offense?

Everybody on WHAT team can shoot a 3? Tennessee?

 

[Coach Jumper]

Jay Wright, the inventor of the 4 out 1 in offense

I'm not sure if it was a joke or not.

You're not comparing yourself to Jay Wright now, are you? The baseline forward will become as standard as the 4 out 1 in offense?

Everybody on WHAT team can shoot a 3? Tennessee?

I see several references to a high post offense, none set up the way I do and no reference to a basketball baseline forward in basketball exists as a position

So yes, it is mine

 

[mutt]

at one time the 4 out 1 in was the unknown joke of an offense,
it has then since become a standard
you never know

My use of a forward who patrols the baseline replaces the shooting guard, a position which employs a person who's only/primary skill is to shoot.

Such a position and the use thereof would employ the skillset of Rae perfectly

Those "shooters" were often used by opposing coaches as targets on offensive-switches, bc they weren't usually as physically gifted as forwards.

Add in that everybody on this team CAN shoot a 3

Think about who was often switched to get by our opponents last year.
I'm just saying

I played at Mercer in the early 80's. In our secondary break the 2 released to the corner while the 1 handled all outlets. 4\5 raced to become low post. The second post became the high post opposite 1. The 3 filled lane opposite the 1. The 2 was a shooter and had the green light since everyone else was in the racing, crash the boards mindset. We went into offensive sets after the ball was reversed with the low post trying to establish ballside low post position and the 2 running the baseline. One of our zone sets included the baseline runner.

 

[Bballnut1952]

I see several references to a high post offense, none set up the way I do and no reference to a basketball baseline forward in basketball exists as a position

So yes, it is mine

I see several references to a high post offense, none set up the way I do and no reference to a basketball baseline forward in basketball exists as a position

So yes, it is mine

Do you expect anyone else to use the "baseline forward" terminology ever??? Catch on like the 4 out 1 in?

and you didn't answer this question

Everybody on WHAT team can shoot a 3? Tennessee?

 

[Coach Jumper]

Jay Wright, the inventor of the 4 out 1 in offense

I'm not sure if it was a joke or not.

You're not comparing yourself to Jay Wright now, are you? The baseline forward will become as standard as the 4 out 1 in offense?

Everybody on WHAT team can shoot a 3? Tennessee?

7 of our players shot near or above 30%

10 shots:
to score points
shooting 3's at 30% 9 pts
shooting 2's at 50% 10 pts

games where we shot under 49% out of 31 = 21
games where we shot under 29% out of 31 = 11

We can shoot the three, just don't value it enough
(this is Al Brown stuff here)

 

[Coach Jumper]

I played at Mercer in the early 80's. In our secondary break the 2 released to the corner while the 1 handled all outlets. 4\5 raced to become low post. The second post became the high post opposite 1. The 3 filled lane opposite the 1. The 2 was a shooter and had the green light since everyone else was in the racing, crash the boards mindset. We went into offensive sets after the ball was reversed with the low post trying to establish ballside low post position and the 2 running the baseline. One of our zone sets included the baseline runner.

love it!

 

[Coach Jumper]

But its not about shooting the three or not
it's about using your immediately visible strength for that game

if your posts are way undermatched feature them
if they have weak ballhandling press defense them
If they shoot threes zone them
if they drive, put Jaiden in their way and give her the green light to floor them
if they are weak one on one defenders attack them off the dribble
if they are short shoot over them and exploit matchups at the post

This is where coaching comes in. The coach decides the strength for that day

 

[Coach Jumper]

Do you expect anyone else to use the "baseline forward" terminology ever??? Catch on like the 4 out 1 in?

and you didn't answer this question

Everybody on WHAT team can shoot a 3? Tennessee?

I couldn't care less who adopts my terminology
yes I did, nag
see the next entry and take @GameTime 's chill pill

 

[Bballnut1952]

I couldn't care less who adopts my terminology
yes I did, nag
see the next entry and take @GameTime 's chill pill

You do like to call people names.

Not very nice. I just didn't see that post. Try taking your own chill pill.

 

[Bballnut1952]

7 of our players shot near or above 30%

10 shots:
to score points
shooting 3's at 30% 9 pts
shooting 2's at 50% 10 pts

games where we shot under 49% out of 31 = 21
games where we shot under 29% out of 31 = 11

We can shoot the three, just don't value it enough
(this is Al Brown stuff here)

7 players shot near or about 30%? That is your criteria for being able to shoot a three pointer?

Tennessee was 135th in the country in three point percentage at 31.7%. Sorry, but to me that is not having the ability to shoot the three.

It's been a big problem for recent Tennessee teams.

 

[Coach Jumper]

7 players shot near or about 30%? That is your criteria for being able to shoot a three pointer?

Tennessee was 135th in the country in three point percentage at 31.7%. Sorry, but to me that is not having the ability to shoot the three.

It's been a big problem for recent Tennessee teams.

Be that is it may, my numbers don't lie

it isn't so much our rank, it is about what difference it makes
the 3 is a weapon and needs to be used to make the other weapons more effective
we need to use the three more, not as an exclusivity
but as a weapon...
In games where we made 6 or more threes we were 8-2

 

[Volfan2012]

If Zaay wanted to stay and is not being allowed to stay would that mean she would be eligible immediately at her next destination. If so look for the offers to roll in much more so than if she has to sit out a season.