Zaay Green

I wasn't talking about recruiting. I asked about next years team and their rotation. Who would start and who would come off the bench for who. You kinda told me that. Then you went on to tell me what kind of offense you would run. It certainly was interesting (although I can't find a reference anywhere on the internet for a baseline forward position) and you do know how to talk the talk for the most part. But what I wanted to know is how you think Coach Harper will do with these players.

I only mentioned the freshmen because they will have to be part of the rotation as the team is constituted now.

It's a tough situation when you only have two returning guards and the only backups are freshmen.

How do you see it?

BTw
you won't find a reference to baseline forward because it is a position unique to my offense

a little background as to why you can't find baseline forward...:

I played football and ran track as my major sports in HS. A little center field in baseball and not one game of basketball for my HS. In the Army we won the base Captain's cup in football for my AIT base.

When asked to coach basketball in 1981 by my 10 year old niece, I had never played the game. Horse a few times, some pickup, but I had never played in a coached game. My coaching influences were Red Auerback, , Phil Jackson, Pat Ryan...NBA coaches. So all I knew was NBA moves and games.

Throughout my coaching career I have only been an assistant a couple of times, that said, everything I know is self-taught or picked up by watching. No training by a coach whatsoever.

I run drills nobody has ever heard of, have an offense noone has ever heard of and positions that are unique to my development.

In my hi-post setup
The center sets up at the low-block and the point forward sets up at the weakside elbow. the baseline forward sets up at the base line opposite the point forward ans the small forward sets up at the elbow extended on the arc. Point guard initiates from the top of the key with a pass to the point forward and then I have options for each position from there. That is why you can't find Baseline Forward on the internet, it doesn't exist. . . .I devised this offense watching Karl Malone and John Stockton's Utah Jazz.

I have drills that are just as unique..."Bang Bang" is a drill with four balls, five girls and 300 shots in 300 seconds (no shots in the paint)

My defense is a 3-1-1 half court pick up with assignments for every position:2 players-trap, one guards the passing lane, one takes the high post and one takes the paint.

My fast break is designed to use all five players and get from "rebound to ball off glass" in under 2.5 seconds

I time everything...Bl to BL attacks, 1-dribble arc-to-glass attacks, reception to release on shots...everything!

Pretty much nothing I talk about, re my coaching is searchable bc I was never taught the appropriate terms.
 
I would love recruit as a professional assignment and know I would be very good at it...but for guessing and projecting on this board, not interested,,,too many avenues. One day this kid, the next day that kid....Tell you what though.

re the question below...I have yet to look at any film for the new recruits...let me take the night and the morning and I will give you my assessment as to how I see them fitting in, in my projection tomorrow around noon...ok?

if anyone has bookmarked anything re our 2020 newcomers, please feel free to post it so I can have all of the info I can get.
thank you

also, I will take this question below and start a fresh thread with it so we don't continue to take Zaay's thread

cool?
Whatever floats your boat.

In my opinion, guessing and projects is what this board is for. It's fun to do that, and then hold people to what they said if they are wrong. All in good fun.

This board is way too serious. I know you believe that what is posted here impacts the player, but in reality, not one player based their decision to leave on what a fans posted. Not one.

Parents on the other hand, are of course protective of their kids and get pissed when they are attacked here.

In these crazy times, we should all try to get along a little better. Now back to Wrestlemania!!!
 
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you won't find a reference to baseline forward because it is a position unique to my offense

a little background as to why you can't find baseline forward...:

I played football and ran track as my major sports in HS. A little center field in baseball and not one game of basketball for my HS. In the Army we won the base Captain's cup in football for my AIT base.

When asked to coach basketball in 1981 by my 10 year old niece, I had never played the game. Horse a few times, some pickup, but I had never played in a coached game. My coaching influences were Red Auerback, , Phil Jackson, Pat Ryan...NBA coaches. So all I knew was NBA moves and games.

Throughout my coaching career I have only been an assistant a couple of times, that said, everything I know is self-taught or picked up by watching. No training by a coach whatsoever.

I run drills nobody has ever heard of, have an offense noone has ever heard of and positions that are unique to my development.

In my hi-post setup
The center sets up at the low-block and the point forward sets up at the weakside elbow. the baseline forward sets up at the base line opposite the point forward ans the small forward sets up at the elbow extended on the arc. Point guard initiates from the top of the key with a pass to the point forward and then I have options for each position from there. That is why you can't find Baseline Forward on the internet, it doesn't exist. . . .I devised this offense watching Karl Malone and John Stockton's Utah Jazz.

I have drills that are just as unique..."Bang Bang" is a drill with four balls, five girls and 300 shots in 300 seconds (no shots in the paint)

My defense is a 3-1-1 half court pick up with assignments for every position:2 players-trap, one guards the passing lane, one takes the high post and one takes the paint.

My fast break is designed to use all five players and get from "rebound to ball off glass" in under 2.5 seconds

I time everything...Bl to BL attacks, 1-dribble arc-to-glass attacks, reception to release on shots...everything!

Pretty much nothing I talk about, re my coaching is searchable bc I was never taught the appropriate terms.

So, it's a long way to tell me it's a made up term. Got it.
 
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you won't find a reference to baseline forward because it is a position unique to my offense

a little background as to why you can't find baseline forward...:

I played football and ran track as my major sports in HS. A little center field in baseball and not one game of basketball for my HS. In the Army we won the base Captain's cup in football for my AIT base.

When asked to coach basketball in 1981 by my 10 year old niece, I had never played the game. Horse a few times, some pickup, but I had never played in a coached game. My coaching influences were Red Auerback, , Phil Jackson, Pat Ryan...NBA coaches. So all I knew was NBA moves and games.

Throughout my coaching career I have only been an assistant a couple of times, that said, everything I know is self-taught or picked up by watching. No training by a coach whatsoever.

I run drills nobody has ever heard of, have an offense noone has ever heard of and positions that are unique to my development.

In my hi-post setup
The center sets up at the low-block and the point forward sets up at the weakside elbow. the baseline forward sets up at the base line opposite the point forward ans the small forward sets up at the elbow extended on the arc. Point guard initiates from the top of the key with a pass to the point forward and then I have options for each position from there. That is why you can't find Baseline Forward on the internet, it doesn't exist. . . .I devised this offense watching Karl Malone and John Stockton's Utah Jazz.

I have drills that are just as unique..."Bang Bang" is a drill with four balls, five girls and 300 shots in 300 seconds (no shots in the paint)

My defense is a 3-1-1 half court pick up with assignments for every position:2 players-trap, one guards the passing lane, one takes the high post and one takes the paint.

My fast break is designed to use all five players and get from "rebound to ball off glass" in under 2.5 seconds

I time everything...Bl to BL attacks, 1-dribble arc-to-glass attacks, reception to release on shots...everything!

Pretty much nothing I talk about, re my coaching is searchable bc I was never taught the appropriate terms.
let me get this straight; you have one defense, one offense and being around basketball, you've never learned the appropriate terminology. Re: terminology anyone you coach has got to learn jumper speak and anyone you've coached will be confused by a coach that uses conventional terminology. OK - got it
 
I disagree, Phil Fulmer is a huge supporter of The Lady Vols. He and Pat were together for the glory days of both programs. He knows what it is like to have a great LV program. Also, when whining about what sort of salary UT would pay remember we are still paying off Butch and I believe one or two ADs.

The fact that you act like UT didn't have the money for a better coach shows how little you know about UT's finances. Payouts for football at big time schools like UT (and other big sports like men's basketball, especially at other schools) are predominantly paid off by prominent boosters. That has no bearing whatsoever on how much money UT has to offer for coaches, hence the incredibly high staff salary for other sports like football. Hamilton hasn't had any bearing on UT finances in many years; he left in 2011. He received 1.3 mil when he left UT, which is pretty much chump change for an SEC athletic department. Dave Hart retired and didn't received a buyout. John Currie got 2.2 mil when he left. Once again, that's not a high amount and had no bearing on hiring a women's basketball coach a year and a half later.
 
Whatever floats your boat.

In my opinion, guessing and projects is what this board is for. It's fun to do that, and then hold people to what they said if they are wrong. All in good fun.

This board is way too serious. I know you believe that what is posted here impacts the player, but in reality, not one player based their decision to leave on what a fans posted. Not one.

Parents on the other hand, are of course protective of their kids and get pissed when they are attacked here.

In these crazy times, we should all try to get along a little better. Now back to Wrestlemania!!!

You didn't read Jaz' post, did you.
She wouldn't have written:

I’ve seen a lot of the comments and assumptions y’all are making about my decision to transfer. I made the best decision for me. Let’s make this REAL clear. I’m not transferring over a girl. Just because I watched my gf’s championship game at the SEC tournament doesn’t mean that’s where I’m going. I was being supportive of my gf which is technically nobody else’s business. I don’t mix my personal life with my basketball life, not that I have to explain or acknowledge any of the negativity attached to my name. The assumptions y’all come up with are actually ridiculous. Y’all know me as an athlete...so stop acting like y’all know me outside of basketball. My decision has been made because I’m grown enough to make my OWN decisions. Keep the negativity and assumptions to yourselves.

No, they don't read this. No impact there. Nope:
Oh hell no with a Z-snap
[VIDEO=]captain obvious o hell no Z snap.gif[/VIDEO]
 
let me get this straight; you have one defense, one offense and being around basketball, you've never learned the appropriate terminology. Re: terminology anyone you coach has got to learn jumper speak and anyone you've coached will be confused by a coach that uses conventional terminology. OK - got it

Yawn.
 
You didn't read Jaz' post, did you.
She wouldn't have written:

I’ve seen a lot of the comments and assumptions y’all are making about my decision to transfer. I made the best decision for me. Let’s make this REAL clear. I’m not transferring over a girl. Just because I watched my gf’s championship game at the SEC tournament doesn’t mean that’s where I’m going. I was being supportive of my gf which is technically nobody else’s business. I don’t mix my personal life with my basketball life, not that I have to explain or acknowledge any of the negativity attached to my name. The assumptions y’all come up with are actually ridiculous. Y’all know me as an athlete...so stop acting like y’all know me outside of basketball. My decision has been made because I’m grown enough to make my OWN decisions. Keep the negativity and assumptions to yourselves.

No, they don't read this. No impact there. Nope:
Oh hell no with a Z-snap
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Oh, I saw that. I didn't say they don't read this board. I'm sure they pretty much laugh it off. They know that this is just a small representation of the fan base. They put more stock into the face to face interaction with fans than the crazy people that post here.

Her post was AFTER the fact when she decided to transfer. She just didn't like people in social media guessing it was about her girlfriend.

Your Captain Obvious makes no sense. I think you must really like him.
 
Oh, I saw that. I didn't say they don't read this board. I'm sure they pretty much laugh it off. They know that this is just a small representation of the fan base. They put more stock into the face to face interaction with fans than the crazy people that post here.

Her post was AFTER the fact when she decided to transfer. She just didn't like people in social media guessing it was about her girlfriend.

Your Captain Obvious makes no sense. I think you must really like him.

I know what I know. And yes the postings here were relevant. That is all I will say.
Capt O is one of fav new characters, yes,
right up the with Allstate's Mayhem (They could have done so much more with him)

anyway, looks like vultures are circling ad I'm not looking for a fight tonight so I will only check in sporadically...gonna enjoy the evening and watch my DVR'd Wrestlemania
TTFN...
[VIDEO=]captain obvious standing ovation.gif[/VIDEO]
 
I know what I know. And yes the postings here were relevant. That is all I will say.
Capt O is one of fav new characters, yes,
right up the with Allstate's Mayhem (They could have done so much more with him)

anyway, looks like vultures are circling ad I'm not looking for a fight tonight so I will only check in sporadically...gonna enjoy the evening and watch my DVR'd Wrestlemania
TTFN...
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Understaker match just started!!!

You know what you know but I know you don't know. You only say you know. You know?
 
In 2 to 3 years, I hope this post can be retrieved so that you, and all the others on this site, can see how ridiculous it is that you would make such a remark about Kellie. She will prove to be great, just as she proved to be a great Lady Vol who gave her all to winning. AND WINNING SHE DID.
Oh look, another “Let’s book mark this post,” post. I swear, you people get more pleasure out of the few times this happens than you do the success of the program. I hope UT succeeds. If it’s Kellie that does it, great. Do I believe it? No. I certainly don’t think the brainwaves from my skepticism have any affect on her success or failure.
Do I believe you’re a pathetic schmuck? ......
Kellie is welcome to prove her resume wrong. Go for it!
 
Jazmine and Zaay came here because of the banners hanging in TBA. They're leaving with the realization that the program that hung those banners is no more and is basically in a ditch. Best wishes to them both in their move to higher ground.

On the negative side, the administration will likely give Kelly more time to turn things around, due to these "unforeseen setbacks". More time than she got at NCSt, I expect.
Garbage statement...
 
The fact that you act like UT didn't have the money for a better coach shows how little you know about UT's finances. Payouts for football at big time schools like UT (and other big sports like men's basketball, especially at other schools) are predominantly paid off by prominent boosters. That has no bearing whatsoever on how much money UT has to offer for coaches, hence the incredibly high staff salary for other sports like football. Hamilton hasn't had any bearing on UT finances in many years; he left in 2011. He received 1.3 mil when he left UT, which is pretty much chump change for an SEC athletic department. Dave Hart retired and didn't received a buyout. John Currie got 2.2 mil when he left. Once again, that's not a high amount and had no bearing on hiring a women's basketball coach a year and a half later.
Well, I do know that the athletic department barely broke even recently. I don’t know exactly how they did this past year but I will look it up. I haven’t heard of any big boosters forking over money for Butch. Have you? Until you have a name all you have is a theory.
I have read numerous stories in local newspapers bemoaning the athletic departments finances. Someone may know this for sure but have improvements to Neyland been slowed down due to finances? I believe I have seen that but would not swear.
I’ll get back with you since I am so ignorant of finances. Did I mention I am a CPA? Hold my beer.
 
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couch jumper..."TTFN and WrestleMania"?

And couch (sofa?} jumper thinks VolNation is his conduit to the UTAD? That's either sadly pathetic, or pathetically sad. But - paradoxically,
oddly entertaining somehow.

You'd be surprised what can be accomplished using this site

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And wrestling: Tojo Yamamoto, The Iron Sheik, Haystack Calhoun, Cowboy Bob Orton, the Four Horseman, Fritx Von Eric, hosted by Harry Thornton, presented by the Diamond King, JM Sanders...I watched wrestling even before tv had colors

Speakin of,,,gotto go
 
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Garbage statement...

Apparently I struck a nerve with the "Zaay and Jaz moving to higher ground" observation. As if that's unheard of or something...a recent Lady Vol baller transferring to a more successful program. A few names come to mind...anyone wanna hear 'em?
 
Apparently I struck a nerve with the "Zaay and Jaz moving to higher ground" observation. As if that's unheard of or something...a recent Lady Vol baller transferring to a more successful program. A few names come to mind...anyone wanna hear 'em?

Well, must say that your username is well-earned. ;)
 
Apparently I struck a nerve with the "Zaay and Jaz moving to higher ground" observation. As if that's unheard of or something...a recent Lady Vol baller transferring to a more successful program. A few names come to mind...anyone wanna hear 'em?
Actually in the case of Zaay looks to me totally probable that she wasn't being allowed to come back. I think the breaking of team rules is why she is leaving. Massengill you could come up with any theory why she decided to leave. There is also the possibility that she could come back.
 

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