Zach Azzanni new WR Coach

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VOLorNuttin said:
:blink: They do? Well, Butch Jones had better get a do-over and get Hinshaw in here, instead. He was the best recruiter we had.
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I agree I don't think CBJ ever expected Tee to say no. It's not a coincidence that Hinshaw was let go the same day Tee was offered. Azzanni may be a better coach but Hinshaw is a much better recruiter. It's ironic that Hinshaw is going to end up at Cincinnati.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
You are hanging on too tight Maverick. I didn't even read much of the thread. You asked a poster if they wanted a tampon and midol. Not me.
And I'm crushed you don't agree with me. Really hurts. But thanks for letting me know about my thoughts on the staff and my merry men as well. I was unaware of that part of the fantasy. Let me guess. Former hard core grudenite?

You or anyone else pretending like they know about this hire is a joke. None of you know. I don't either. The coaches try to get the best fit for their goals, and he is respected by his peers. His wrs and rb as OC put up some numbers. I'll stay positive from what those in the know have said as they are the ones who's opinions are educated, not uneducated.
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When have I ever stated that I knew how this hire went down? Any statement I've made regarding this hire I've always concluded it was my opinion or speculation. I have never claimed I had sources. Do I like the hire? No. Have I been critical of the new coach? No! The only negative comments I have made have been aimed at Cheek and Hart. I would have been thrilled to have Gruden. I don't pretend to know why he didn't come. I always had a healthy dose of skepticism that ut would hire him. My point is we needed a big time hire and we didn't get it.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
I support the coaches and players on the football team. Punks like you call that a slurper. So be it. Pegged you from the get go, butthurt Grudenite. Hopefully, you find another fantasy to follow and maybe you can get suckered in again. You ought to try those vampire movies all the women follow, if you don't already.
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I had you pegged too.
 

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Spartacavolus said:
My point is that without Google, you know nothing about either coach, and even with Google, you have the slightest idea as to how he coaches players and how he relates to them.
Save your *****ing for when he gives you a reason to *****.
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How do you know that? You don't know me or how I spend my time. I probably know alot more about football and coach Azzanni then you think I do. A message board in part is where people give their opinions. If you don't like it move to North Korea.
 
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tnvols72 said:
Not being a smart azz but who besides the Ramsey kid has Tee recruited ? I mean recruiting at USC is like recruiting at Fla, it recruits itself. What stud did he recruit to Ky ?
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It's a very valid point. I'm not sure Tee is even a proven WR coach yet. The reason I wanted Tee is because I think it would be easy for Tee to recruit here since he was the QB on our most recent NC team. I have little doubt that Azzanni is a much better coach atm.
 
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I am sorry but, last time we hired an assistant coach that had a ringing endorsement from a national title winning head coach and rival, we ended up with Dooley.

I'll take anything Urban Meyer says with a grain of salt and expect to see Azzanni prove his worth in recruiting the next couple of months.

Until then, he is just another coach who bounces around and wasn't wanted badly enough by his former head coach at Arkansas.
 
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Orange Blood n IL said:
Your being negative now for the sake of being negative. Listen to your arguments and those that are countering. Your saying that its a push as far as relevancy of job titles are concerned from OC at Western Kentucky to WR coach at OSU?? Yeah, ok... What coach do you know of went from WR coach at a top tier school to OC at another top tier school?? It doesn't work like that and you know it. So to say that Meyer didn't want him is pure negative speculation and poor assuming on your part. I say that he was trying to improve his career by taking the next step, and he didn't want it. See how easy speculating and assuming can be??
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You took one post (out of about 50) out of context and twisted it. What I said was I think going from the WR coach at Florida to the OC at Western Kentucky is a push. Azzanni actually made more money as a wr coach at Florida then he did as a OC at WKU where he made less then 80k. IF you don't agree that it's a push then your saying Azzanni's move to Wisconsin wasn't even a lateral move but a step down. He was only the OC at WKU for one year. Regardless of all that my biggest reservation with Azzanni is that I do not think he is a dynamic recruiter like we needed.
 
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I'm so tired of having to muddle through people arguing and name calling like school children to actually read something about football!
How hard would it be to do what we all tell our children to do to someone who acts the way some do on here and ignore it. Just ignore it and move on to the next Tennessee football topic. Imagine how much more we could talk about if we didnt have pages of people calling each other out in ignorant rants.
C'mon people. Grow up. Be an adult.
 
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illvol said:
I'm so tired of having to muddle through people arguing and name calling like school children to actually read something about football!
How hard would it be to do what we all tell our children to do to someone who acts the way some do on here and ignore it. Just ignore it and move on to the next Tennessee football topic. Imagine how much more we could talk about if we didnt have pages of people calling each other out in ignorant rants.
C'mon people. Grow up. Be an adult.
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I agree and I apologize for my rant.
 
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GLDunlap said:
When we got the moniker WR U we were throwing the ball 25-30% of the time
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When we re-got the moniker, we were throwing it upfield, which won't happen with this staff.

The good news is that Jones used a featured back in the running game. Guys had 200+ carries in the last two years; which is appealing to many of the top runners.
 
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UTEZ7 said:
i never said he was a bust. i said he was not a "BOOM". I said he was not a great hire...i said there were better guys we could have gotten...i said other colleges weren't knocking down his door throwing money at him....never said he was a bust. IMO...it wont take him long to achieve that status with most of the fans. People saying he is a great coach this...and great recruiter that...has florida ties...rabble rabble rabble rabble....There is no evidence to support any of that rabbling. He was not highly sought after by former or current employers...his recruiting history...is limited, at best. He has age on his side...as far as being a great coach...we'll see...but again, nothing suggests he is. People should also remeber....as much as CBJ says his offense is centered around the quarterback...dont buy too much into that...its coach speak. He runs the ball. Look at his numbers.
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Running the ball is a bad thing. You experts act like you already know how this going to turn out.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I had you pegged too.
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You are a butthurt fool with no G thread to fantasize about anymore.

And yeah, I guess I am a sheep for allowing the coaches to recruit and coach before I make a mental midget, knee jerk reaction like you and your fantasyland cohorts. Funny that someone who followed anonymous posters in 11 Gruden threads into a fantasy world calls someone a sheep. That's excellent.
 
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GLDunlap said:
How do you know that? You don't know me or how I spend my time. I probably know alot more about football and coach Azzanni then you think I do. A message board in part is where people give their opinions. If you don't like it move to North Korea.
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And you are concerned about his recruiting because a site listed recruits he had been responsible for, yet you have zero idea how he was involved with other recruits, his coaching techniques, and coaching style. You have no idea how he is in front of parents and in front of recruits.

Now tell me where I am wrong. Or call me a sheep like the other clown did. That's usually the fall back for grudenites.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
You are a butthurt fool with no G thread to fantasize about anymore.

And yeah, I guess I am a sheep for allowing the coaches to recruit and coach before I make a mental midget, knee jerk reaction like you and your fantasyland cohorts. Funny that someone who followed anonymous posters in 11 Gruden threads into a fantasy world calls someone a sheep. That's excellent.
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You have absolutely no clue about how I feel about CBJ. All I have said is I thought we could have and should have done better. That doesn't mean I think he's a bad coach. I have not cast any judgment on him and won't until he has had a chance. You on the other hand blindly accept whatever is given to you by the UT AD. I applaud you for your blind faith but forgive me if I don't share your lack of skepticism. How's the old song go? Once bitten twice shy. Baaaaaaaa
 
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GLDunlap said:
Here is what I posted last night.

Whoever said yes first out of Latrell Scott, Tony Ball, Casey Woods, Thomas "TD Woods", Troy Walters and Darin Hinshaw.

I would have rather had a "minority" coach that had spent his career recruiting in the south. I think Azzanni is a very good coach but I just think we needed a better recruiter with this hire.
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GL, I agree with you that my ideal candidate would be a minority with southern recruiting ties. Specifically, Florida and/or Georgia. A "splash" hire would have helped for this recruiting cycle but a good overall recruiter and developer of talent will prove more beneficial in the long run.

What I don't understand is your list above. I think Azzanni is a take over all but, arguably, two of them using your criteria.

Latrell Scott has bounced around about as much as Azzanni. Rivals shows him as landing only 2 recruits, 1-4 star and 1-3 star and it shows he landed none while at Florida. His recruiting time has been spent mostly in the Virginia area, not Florida or Georgia. The killer for me is the baggage. Was fired for not one but two DUIs while at Richmond. Too high a risk for CBJ in my opinion.

Casey Woods and Troy Walters don't have anywhere near the coaching resume as Azzanni. Woods one year as grad assistant at UT and 3 years in "Quality Control". Walters was a great player but has been coaching only 4 years (at three separate stops). Neither has been credited by Rivals as landing any recruit, of any rating, at any school, ever. Advantage...Azzanni.

Thomas Woods has lots of years coaching the position including 5 at Tulane, 1 at Jacksonville State, 5 at Mississippi. He has spent his career in the south. His Rivals profile lists 1-3 star and 5-2 star recruits. None from Florida. Wouldn't think this is what you meant by great recruiter.

The two that stand-up are Tony Ball and Hinshaw. Both have spent a number of years with major programs in the south and have shown stability.

Ball compares favorably to Azzanni per Rivals though not decisively (2-4 stars, 2-3 stars vs Azzanni's 1 and 1). He is a minority. Hinshaw, per Rivals is by far the best recruiter with 5-4 star recruits and 3-3 star recruits. As I mentioned in a prior post, I wasn't impressed by the job he did with our receivers this year and and he, of course, isn't a minority.

I am fine with Azzanni. Tee's name and story helped eclipse his limited resume in my opinion. Hinshaw's recruiting helps offset what I feel are coaching deficiencies. Would have been fine with Ball or the Florida State guy as well.
 
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Smokeybluetick said:
I'll tell you who he recruited! He recruited players that won a bunch of f------ football games! UT hired CBJ to win games,if these are the guy's he wants I think it qualifies as a great hire! These coaches have a combined 30+ years of experience coaching with CBJ! Like it was said in an earlier post,you get a mess when you throw together a bunch of coaches( CDD'sfirst staff) that have no experience together,no matter how good individually they may be. Relax! GO VOLS!!!
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thats not what meant. i was actually talking about the names of guys he has recruited.

a wr coach isnt going to make or break the team. i was just wondering beacuse a lot of people on here are talking about his recruiting and i couldnt find a lot on the guy.

thats why i included his "coaching up" of the walk on kid.
 
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recoachtn said:
GL, I agree with you that my ideal candidate would be a minority with southern recruiting ties. Specifically, Florida and/or Georgia. A "splash" hire would have helped for this recruiting cycle but a good overall recruiter and developer of talent will prove more beneficial in the long run.

What I don't understand is your list above. I think Azzanni is a take over all but, arguably, two of them using your criteria.

Latrell Scott has bounced around about as much as Azzanni. Rivals shows him as landing only 2 recruits, 1-4 star and 1-3 star and it shows he landed none while at Florida. His recruiting time has been spent mostly in the Virginia area, not Florida or Georgia. The killer for me is the baggage. Was fired for not one but two DUIs while at Richmond. Too high a risk for CBJ in my opinion.

Casey Woods and Troy Walters don't have anywhere near the coaching resume as Azzanni. Woods one year as grad assistant at UT and 3 years in "Quality Control". Walters was a great player but has been coaching only 4 years (at three separate stops). Neither has been credited by Rivals as landing any recruit, of any rating, at any school, ever. Advantage...Azzanni.

Thomas Woods has lots of years coaching the position including 5 at Tulane, 1 at Jacksonville State, 5 at Mississippi. He has spent his career in the south. His Rivals profile lists 1-3 star and 5-2 star recruits. None from Florida. Wouldn't think this is what you meant by great recruiter.

The two that stand-up are Tony Ball and Hinshaw. Both have spent a number of years with major programs in the south and have shown stability.

Ball compares favorably to Azzanni per Rivals though not decisively (2-4 stars, 2-3 stars vs Azzanni's 1 and 1). He is a minority. Hinshaw, per Rivals is by far the best recruiter with 5-4 star recruits and 3-3 star recruits. As I mentioned in a prior post, I wasn't impressed by the job he did with our receivers this year and and he, of course, isn't a minority.

I am fine with Azzanni. Tee's name and story helped eclipse his limited resume in my opinion. Hinshaw's recruiting helps offset what I feel are coaching deficiencies. Would have been fine with Ball or the Florida State guy as well.
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here is what rivals(top 25 recruiters) said about tee when he was at kenSUCKY:

Tee Martin, Kentucky
Buzz: Recruiting at Kentucky for his first year, Martin killed it for the Wildcats landing four-star defensive back Glenn Faulkner from Illinois as well as a ton of three stars. He also landed Eric Dixon and Rashad Cunningham from South Alabama, where he is from, and helped sway wide receiver Daryl Collins from Alabama on signing day. He was also the primary recruiter for Demarco Robinson, Nile Daniel and Theltus Cobbins, and has already earned a promotion in title and a contract extension for his efforts. Not a bad first year.

doing that at kentucky isnt a bad job and tee is a coach on the rise. not an opinion. fact
 
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UrbanCryer said:
thats not what meant. i was actually talking about the names of guys he has recruited.

a wr coach isnt going to make or break the team. i was just wondering beacuse a lot of people on here are talking about his recruiting and i couldnt find a lot on the guy.

thats why i included his "coaching up" of the walk on kid.
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That's why they are upset. There isn't much on him, other than what coaches say, and some numbers he has been involved with as far as rushing and passing. Some posters are going by what recruits he is "listed" to have signed according to a recruiting site, but they have no idea what his role in recruiting was. Jay Graham is out right now recruiting all positions for us, not just rb.
 
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