A lot of members on here have said Butch micro-managed everything, and after tonight's game, I tend to agree with them. Yes, they lost, but I saw a defense tonight that kinda indicated what Shoop can do when he doesn't have Butch in his ear. And as far as the offense goes, I think you get what you get when you have to finish out the year with Butch's scheme. Hoke did do some things we haven't seen from Butch so it's very obvious Butch was the problem. Glad he's gone, just wish it would have been sooner.