The Official Tennessee vs. Arkansas Game Thread, 7:00pm ET, ESPN2

[dbowen]

Wait until South Carolina or someone else hires Kelly. Then we fall even further down the line.

Kelly is not going to leave Philly. They may pick up Charlie Strong on the cheap

 

[OrangeInKy]

Kelly is not going to leave Philly. They may pick up Charlie Strong on the cheap

Kelly may not have a say in the matter if they miss playoffs

 

[midstate]

Guys, several things are going on right now. First of all, this team was over hyped and overrated from the start of spring practice. We have come light years since the arrival of Butch Jones, but we are one level of experienced depth from being able to put away top 25 teams. We only had 65 scholarship players when Butch took over, and about half of them belonged in the OVC, not FBS. Also, our offensive line is still shallow on depth, and Dobbs only gets about 2 seconds to throw most of the time. Heck, we are still raw at most positions. Debord is really limited in what he can run because the WRs can't get off man coverage, the line can't block long enough for Dobbs to get past read 2 in the progression, and then teams stack 8 in the box and dare us to run. On the defensive side, we only have 3 guys developed enough yet to play a lot of man coverage. That's limits blitzing, and we cannot generate enough pressure rushing 4 raw D linemen. The past two years, we were getting embarrassed by quality competition. The losses this year have sucked, but the progress is there. Give it till the end of next year before we break out the torches, feathers, and pitch.

 

[butchna]

No more than your crew if they would've beaten this horrible Arkansas team.

They rivers would've flowed with Butch gets it juice.

It would have been tiresome to be sure...the good version.

 

[midstate]

Kelly may not have a say in the matter if they miss playoffs

If he misses the playoffs, he will be back at Oregon. Helfrich is not exactly winning hearts and minds in Duckland.

 

[butchna]

STFU with this crap. The day you put your fandom of a coach over the program is the day you cease being a fan of the University of Tennessee. Too many have forgotten who they actually root for.

Or AGAINST. :wink2:

 

[OrangeInKy]

If he misses the playoffs, he will be back at Oregon. Helfrich is not exactly winning hearts and minds in Duckland.

Maybe. People assumed same about Spurrier at UF in 2005. Also, Kelly did get I'm some trouble at Oregon. That would be an attractive job so they may not want to bring him back

 

[BEATBAMA12]

How's Florida looking? In reality? Over rated? Under rated?

 

[Fatman Photos]

Two straight top 5 recruiting classes and you get....THIS???

That is beyond pathetic.

Yep, the are still Freshmen and Sophomores. Are TOP 5 classes suppose to just show up and be stars?

 

[Madscientistvol]

Guys, several things are going on right now. First of all, this team was over hyped and overrated from the start of spring practice. We have come light years since the arrival of Butch Jones, but we are one level of experienced depth from being able to put away top 25 teams. We only had 65 scholarship players when Butch took over, and about half of them belonged in the OVC, not FBS. Also, our offensive line is still shallow on depth, and Dobbs only gets about 2 seconds to throw most of the time. Heck, we are still raw at most positions. Debord is really limited in what he can run because the WRs can't get off man coverage, the line can't block long enough for Dobbs to get past read 2 in the progression, and then teams stack 8 in the box and dare us to run. On the defensive side, we only have 3 guys developed enough yet to play a lot of man coverage. That's limits blitzing, and we cannot generate enough pressure rushing 4 raw D linemen. The past two years, we were getting embarrassed by quality competition. The losses this year have sucked, but the progress is there. Give it till the end of next year before we break out the torches, feathers, and pitch.

We have blown three double digit leads in our only three p5 opponents, and just game a team who was 1-3 with no road victories in three years a win in our house. You'll need a whole hell of a lot more sugar to coat this crap.

 

[midstate]

We have blown three double digit leads in our only three p5 opponents, and just game a team who was 1-3 with no road victories in three years a win in our house. You'll need a whole hell of a lot more sugar to coat this crap.

Nobody's sugar coating anything. I just didn't buy into all the hype after the Tax Slayer bowl and kept my expectations realistic. Butch has had to burn the field clean, plant his crop, and wait for it to grow. Guys, we started in 2013 with 65 guys on grant, and talent level akin to MTSU. Takes about 4 years to build from the ground up. Still a lot of 18 and 19 year old kids out there in the starting 22 and a bunch of 18 year olds providing depth. A couple of injuries are hurting badly. One more group of linemen on both sides of the ball should push us over. We have gone from getting killed to actually competing again. It's coming, hang in there with these guys. They need us. One thing: we need to wear the JUCOs out this year. We need some older guys in the front 7 on D.