Why did the cops ask Vol fan to sit down last night?

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holtridge said:
Hello. I was sitting in section K last night and a Vol fan about four rows in front of me was standing up and cheering for the Vols. The guy behind him politely asks him if he would sit down. He then says I am a VFL and cheering for my team. The fan then gets the cops to ask that man to sit down and he pleads his case to the cops saying he is cheering for his team. I had no problem with this man standing and cheering for the Vols. So why did the cops ask him to sit down? Didn't that man have the liberty of standing up and cheering for Tennessee? Thank you for your time.
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Um... because other people behind him we like to see the game too, instead of his rear end, perhaps?
 
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gunner said:
Nothing wrong with standing when the Vols are on offense, just don't be loud.

Standing at Neyland has been a traditional way to support the Vols before many of y'all were even born, even when the Vols are on offense too.
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Traditional? Please elaborate because that's bs.
 
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volfanhill said:
Traditional? Please elaborate because that's bs.
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I attended my first UT game many years ago in the early 80's fans would stand and cheer on the Vols then too. But, I don't ever recall folks complaining and wanting others to sit, eveyone just stood and cheered. It's been going on for years in Neyland Stadium. Only recently have I noticed folks complaining about others standing to cheer on the Vols. GBO!!
 
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TheRain said:
Gunner, two hours into the game, nothings going on and there is a lull in the action... I bet that seat behind you looks very inviting.
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I understand and I appreciate your comments. If I did chose to sit, that's on me, but I would NEVER complain or ask someone else in front of me to sit just so I could.
 
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gunner said:
I attended my first UT game many years ago in the early 80's fans would stand and cheer on the Vols then too. But, I don't ever recall folks complaining and wanting others to sit, eveyone just stood and cheered. It's been going on for years in Neyland Stadium. Only recently have I noticed folks complaining about others standing to cheer on the Vols. GBO!!
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The sit/stand thing has been going on as long as I remember. What's changed is that now you hear about it.
 
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I stood up to watch a movie in a movie theater the other night and was escorted out. I explained to them I bought a ticket and could do whatever I want. They said no and kicked me out because people behind me couldn't see. I told them they could stand up too but that didn't fly. Why do they insist on infringing upon my rights?
 
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UTFootballFan said:
I stood up to watch a movie in a movie theater the other night and was escorted out. I explained to them I bought a ticket and could do whatever I want. They said no and kicked me out because people behind me couldn't see. I told them they could stand up too but that didn't fly. Why do they insist on infringing upon my rights?
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Dumb and Dumber2?
 
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UTFootballFan said:
I stood up to watch a movie in a movie theater the other night and was escorted out. I explained to them I bought a ticket and could do whatever I want. They said no and kicked me out because people behind me couldn't see. I told them they could stand up too but that didn't fly. Why do they insist on infringing upon my rights?
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You're missing the part where a football game is a unique occasion in which you are allowed to consider only yourself when making a decision
 
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Volumnus 2011 said:
You're missing the part where a football game is a unique occasion in which you are allowed to consider only yourself when making a decision
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Oh, yeah. You have a point there.


The guy with the dumb and dumber2 comment must be one of the self-centered football games are a free for all place.Since buying a ticket entitles one to do whatever they want, I guess clothing is optional also.
 
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alavolfan said:
Um... because other people behind him we like to see the game too, instead of his rear end, perhaps?
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This sounds like common sense, but what if an opposing fan is sitting behind you? They probably don't want to be standing when you do. So, in such a case, you should never stand.
 
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UTFootballFan said:
I stood up to watch a movie in a movie theater the other night and was escorted out. I explained to them I bought a ticket and could do whatever I want. They said no and kicked me out because people behind me couldn't see. I told them they could stand up too but that didn't fly. Why do they insist on infringing upon my rights?
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Your comparing an apple to an orange.

Standing and cheering at college football game is completely normal. Most people at a college football game stand and cheer.

Standing to watch a show at a movie theater is NOT normal. No one at a thereafter ever stands to watch or cheer.
 
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gunner said:
Your comparing an apple to an orange.

Standing and cheering at college football game is completely normal. Most people at a college football game stand and cheer.

Standing to watch a show at a movie theater is NOT normal. No one at a thereafter ever stands to watch or cheer.
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The whole damn game? No they don't.

Yes, some do stand the whole game, even when nothing is going on, and they've probably been doing it for a long time. Only goes to show that inconsiderate jackasses have been around a long time.

Most people don't stand the whole game.
 
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So, the current situation allows fans to exist in one of two states: standing or sitting. When everyone stands, everyone can see. When everyone sits, everyone can see. When some sit and some stand, those who stand can see, but those who sit cannot. The problem can be solved by eliminating one of the states as an option, or by forcing everyone to be in the same state at the same time.

Fat chance getting over 100,000 people to synchronize their actions for a three and a half to four hour period without a totalitarian regime in place to enforce it, so the solution must be to eliminate one of the possible states. We could either temporarily disable each person's ability to stand when they get to their seats, or we could remove the seats so nobody can sit. Since the fans will need to stand in order to walk to the concession stand, restroom, etc., the only reasonable solution is to remove the seats so nobody can sit. The option to sit is what allows the problem to exist.

Because there are people who are unable (or unwilling) to stand for that long, this solution is incomplete. If only we had some mechanism that would allow us to show them moving pictures and sound from the game as it's happening in a place where they could sit and still see without relying on strangers in front of them to make the same decision. That would solve everything.
 
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Quaint88 said:
So, the current situation allows fans to exist in one of two states: standing or sitting. When everyone stands, everyone can see. When everyone sits, everyone can see. When some sit and some stand, those who stand can see, but those who sit cannot. The problem can be solved by eliminating one of the states as an option, or by forcing everyone to be in the same state at the same time.

Fat chance getting over 100,000 people to synchronize their actions for a three and a half to four hour period without a totalitarian regime in place to enforce it, so the solution must be to eliminate one of the possible states. We could either temporarily disable each person's ability to stand when they get to their seats, or we could remove the seats so nobody can sit. Since the fans will need to stand in order to walk to the concession stand, restroom, etc., the only reasonable solution is to remove the seats so nobody can sit. The option to sit is what allows the problem to exist.

Because there are people who are unable (or unwilling) to stand for that long, this solution is incomplete. If only we had some mechanism that would allow us to show them moving pictures and sound from the game as it's happening in a place where they could sit and still see without relying on strangers in front of them to make the same decision. That would solve everything.
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You can stand in front of a tv too
 
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In all seriousness, I can see both sides of the argument. My logical solution, which would actually solve the problem, obviously doesn't take humanitarian concerns into account. Although it would create an environment where everyone who goes knows in advance that they will be standing the entire time, it would also prevent those who are physically unable to stand for four hours from seeing the Vols play in Neyland, which I would consider inhumane. I haven't had to sit behind someone who stands the entire game, nor have I had to be in front of someone who wants to sit the entire game, so I can only empathize with those who have. Maybe Neyland needs something like an applause sign that instead tells when to stand and when to sit. Relying on fans to "just know" is obviously not working. The opposing fans wouldn't listen for sure, but that would give us a jumping off point for heckling them.
 
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Can we stand during a bowl game since we haven't been in several years??
 
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volfanhill said:
Traditional? Please elaborate because that's bs.
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I call BS on that statement too. I started going to Vols games in the late 70's. The students stood because there was generally too much coke, jack, and puke on the seats. Didn't see too many others standing the entire game. Mostly up and down as the situation required. Pretty much the same as our section does now. I can honestly tell you that if your drunk ass stood the entire game in front of me, I wouldn't ask the cops to escort you out, I would have the supervisor of the ushers find someone that could refund the money for my ticket. You go to the game with an assumption of common courtesy, not having to sit behind an ******* just like the rules state on the back of the ticket. I will allow you to do what ever the hell you want. This problem is when I start insisting on my freaking $$ back, they will become concerned. I am willing to be the quick solution is that they will politely ask you to sit, and when you don't and appear the least bit intoxicated, you will be gone. It will all be on you since all I will have done is ask for a refund.
 
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gunner said:
Your comparing an apple to an orange.

Standing and cheering at college football game is completely normal. Most people at a college football game stand and cheer as the situation warrants. Others are *******s and go out of there way to make the game unenjoyable for all.

Standing to watch a show at a movie theater is NOT normal. No one at a thereafter ever stands to watch or cheer.
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