Herm Edwards fired

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Matt Rhule will be job hunting after next weekend. His boy Jeff Nixon is already OC there sooo...
 
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I'm shocked that Arizona State didn't wait until after the Arizona game to fire him.
 
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05_never_again said:
Herm actually lasted a lot longer there than I thought he would.

Arizona and Arizona St should both be better football programs historically than they are.
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There has always been a problem with there not being all that much talent historically in Arizona High Schools. To be successful a coach at Arizona or Arizona State has to recruit in California,Texas or lean heavily on JC players.
 
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Jeff Clark said:
There has always been a problem with there not being all that much talent historically in Arizona High Schools. To be successful a coach at Arizona or Arizona State has to recruit in California,Texas or lean heavily on JC players.
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I think the last 20 years or so though that has changed/is changing. Phoenix is a dynamic, growing metro area.
 
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Jeff Clark said:
There has always been a problem with there not being all that much talent historically in Arizona High Schools. To be successful a coach at Arizona or Arizona State has to recruit in California,Texas or lean heavily on JC players.
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As 05 already pointed out, Phoenix is not a backwater any longer. Between Phoenix itself growing, Intel setting up shop in Chandler, and a large number of things in Glendale that area is booming

Every school worth their salt has a scout pretty much dedicated to the Phoenix high schools

You're starting to see quite a few QBs coming out of that area vs SoCal also. Slovis at Pitt and I believe Spenser Rattler are two current examples.
 
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Jeff Clark said:
I'm shocked that Arizona State didn't wait until after the Arizona game to fire him.
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They were losing fan support by the 10s of thousands. The fans were also calling for the heads of the AD and the university president too. They AD was saving his own bacon. Realignment is real.
 
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stolitonic said:
As 05 already pointed out, Phoenix is not a backwater any longer. Between Phoenix itself growing, Intel setting up shop in Chandler, and a large number of things in Glendale that area is booming

Every school worth their salt has a scout pretty much dedicated to the Phoenix high schools

You're starting to see quite a few QBs coming out of that area vs SoCal also. Slovis at Pitt and I believe Spenser Rattler are two current examples.
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A&M, OU and Texas walk into the State of Arizona and take any recruit they want. Hell, even Baylor just snagged an under the radar TE and 5* basketball recruit from the Phoenix area. The Phoenix area is 100% an NFL market. ASU needs to figure out what they are going to do.
 
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BUBear said:
They were losing fan support by the 10s of thousands. The fans were also calling for the heads of the AD and the university president too. They AD was saving his own bacon. Realignment is real.
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Arizona State needs to hire Butch Jones
 
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stolitonic said:
As 05 already pointed out, Phoenix is not a backwater any longer. Between Phoenix itself growing, Intel setting up shop in Chandler, and a large number of things in Glendale that area is booming

Every school worth their salt has a scout pretty much dedicated to the Phoenix high schools

You're starting to see quite a few QBs coming out of that area vs SoCal also. Slovis at Pitt and I believe Spenser Rattler are two current examples.
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Now that I go and look at the recruits that come out of the State of Arizona the last 5 years, it actually is pretty top heavy as some described. There are guys like Rattler and Slovis as you mentioned, but in any given recruiting year there are just a handful of other 4-star guys and then it really drops off. You'd think a metro like Phoenix would produce a bigger volume of talent, especially given the population trend over the last 15-20 years.

Regardless, it seems like a good place for Arizona/Arizona St to start would be finding a way to keep some of these kids in-state. Basically every single one of them go out of state. In 2022 for example, only 2 of the top 20 in-state players stayed in-state. It isn't like Phoenix and Tucson are unappealing places.
 
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