10' AL LB John Propst

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Nashvegas31 said:
his film actually looks pretty good...physical LB with some pretty nice hits and fighting through blocks..if he has the intensity and work ethic of his uncle then it is someone worth a shot..always good to have a fighter

someone made a comment about this is a big east or Big Ten LB..umm so there have never been any good LBs from those leagues? There are plenty of LBs in Big Ten I wouldve take from the past and present.
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Well sir, there's a BIG difference when the overall play of the league (Big 10/Big East) is slower or you have a defensive line in front of you averaging 280. We have neither a slow league nor a heavy defensive front.

So unless they're taking him with the intention on just taking up blockers, he better stick a rocket up his asprin tablet.
 
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Big Orange Bo said:
Previous La Tech recruit. Not real excited about this if its a favor. But I will support CDD if he thinks he has to have this kid..:dunno:
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I have no problem with you stating your opinion. You could be right. But do you have to restate your opinion every time you post? We get it. You do not like Crump or Propst. Move on to another thread, discuss that we are obviously going to a 3-4 b/c of all the linebackers we are getting or which dc coaches the 3-4 that we could potentially be getting. The main thing is MOVE ON FROM THIS THREAD!
 
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UTMark said:
I have no problem with you stating your opinion. You could be right. But do you have to restate your opinion every time you post? We get it. You do not like Crump or Propst. Move on to another thread, discuss that we are obviously going to a 3-4 b/c of all the linebackers we are getting or which dc coaches the 3-4 that we could potentially be getting. The main thing is MOVE ON FROM THIS THREAD!
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+1

I'm still hoping he logs out and loses his password. :crossfingers:
 
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Big Orange Bo said:
I think CDD is in on some really good guys, I just dont think Probst and Crump are included in those. JMO

I know, I'm not a coach or a talent evaluater, whatever, I think these are 2 La Tech-UAB type prospects and will have to really overachieve to justify their scholarships... IMO

Crump 4 Heisman.....
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You have literally posted the exact same thing going on about 15 times....we get it....you don't like Crump or Propst....you're not a talent evaluator...it's just your opinion...etc etc. Welcome to Ignoreland
 
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PayingUTKTuition said:
Nothing wrong with 3 stars. Lots of good football teams full of them. We need a middle linebacker type. Most of the others look like OLB
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Let these kids get on campus first. Then rank them. Some have peaked already. Some haven't really been coached up. Some have never been away from home more than a week(New Keys). There are lot of unknowns floating about. Stars now mean little, other than their previous past performance. V,B!
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#60
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Propst has already hit his ceiling as a football player. He's a smart kid but he won't ever start in the SEC.
 
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vol66 said:
I can't decide if this is good news or bad.
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Please, please tell me you're kidding. Hoover High is a great HS football program. Getting a foot in that door is huge.

The kid is obviously very intelligent. He has size and decent speed. Being a AL kid, Thompson has probably known him for at least 2 or 3 years. I'm more than willing to see what they can do with him.
 
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VOLNBAMA said:
Propst has already hit his ceiling as a football player. He's a smart kid but he won't ever start in the SEC.
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Sorry but I won't buy that. You seem to be saying that UT's S&C program can't develop this kid...

I have no idea whether he'll ever play or not but am about 99.99% certain he hasn't "hit his ceiling as a football player".

You guys whiffed completely on your Big 10 LB discussion. NOTE TO THOSE NOT BLIND: All NFL LB's can run. The Big 10 puts a bunch of them into the NFL. Guys like Hawk also play with great intelligence and instinct. Like speed, those aren't things you can really teach. You can make a guy a little faster with a good S&C program. You can educate a guy so he plays smarter... but everyone has their natural limits.

Not saying this is the guy... but give me a LB with great vision, instincts, and intelligence any day over another one with a forty time that's .1 secs faster.
 
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Guys like this are good fallback guys IMO. I see everyone talking about all the higher rated guys we are in on....BUT....I think CDD and staff can not risk waiting till NSD and roll the dice with kids they have just started speaking to. I would much prefer to take some solid 3 star guys who want to be here.....then end up missing out on 5-6 guys and not filling out the class. Nothing would make me happier than to go into Feb. 1st...with a full class....all solid and ready to sign on the 3rd. (Yes, I think the coaches know if Rogers is coming or not). Go Vols!
 
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sjt18 said:
Sorry but I won't buy that. You seem to be saying that UT's S&C program can't develop this kid...

I have no idea whether he'll ever play or not but am about 99.99% certain he hasn't "hit his ceiling as a football player".

You guys whiffed completely on your Big 10 LB discussion. NOTE TO THOSE NOT BLIND: All NFL LB's can run. The Big 10 puts a bunch of them into the NFL. Guys like Hawk also play with great intelligence and instinct. Like speed, those aren't things you can really teach. You can make a guy a little faster with a good S&C program. You can educate a guy so he plays smarter... but everyone has their natural limits.

Not saying this is the guy... but give me a LB with great vision, instincts, and intelligence any day over another one with a forty time that's .1 secs faster.
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Whiffed ehhh? I believe the point of discussion drove around the fact that the Big 10's league as a whole (not the few exceptions like Hawk) is VERY slow and does not even remotely compare to that of the SEC. I could honestly care less about how many lb's they send to the league.

My point was and still is that in order for us to compete against and become of the SEC elite again we must improve our overall team speed along the front 7. Getting TYPICAL Big 10 players without having many bodies on the defensive line leads to results like our bowl game!
 
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sjt18 said:
Please, please tell me you're kidding. Hoover High is a great HS football program. Getting a foot in that door is huge.

The kid is obviously very intelligent. He has size and decent speed. Being a AL kid, Thompson has probably known him for at least 2 or 3 years. I'm more than willing to see what they can do with him.
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My comment wasn't about this kid. It was about who we might be losing and how many spots we have left. He's a little slow running in a straight line with nothing but a stop watch as motivation, so what.
 
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Tha Don said:
Whiffed ehhh? I believe the point of discussion drove around the fact that the Big 10's league as a whole (not the few exceptions like Hawk) is VERY slow and does not even remotely compare to that of the SEC. I could honestly care less about how many lb's they send to the league.
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Yep. The Big 10 isn't as slow as you think. They aren't as fast as the SEC but you are overplaying that perception.

My point was and still is that in order for us to compete against and become of the SEC elite again we must improve our overall team speed along the front 7. Getting TYPICAL Big 10 players without having many bodies on the defensive line leads to results like our bowl game!
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Auburn with SEC speed was taken to OT by lowly NW. Not only is NW a Big 10 school... they're almost like the Vandy of the Big 10. Their academic standards are higher than Stanford and ND IIRC.

PSU was "fast enough" to beat LSU and hold their O to 243 yards. I think the only SEC team that held them to less was UF.

tOSU was fast enough to beat an Oregon team built on speed.

Iowa beat GT... a team with SEC like speed.

What UT needs to get back to the top is defenders who get where they need to be when they need to be there and then make plays. If they get there just because they're fast, fine. If they get there because they're smart and can read plays quickly, fine. But if speed were the final factor, we could just have them line up before the game and award the trophy to the team with the lowest avg 40 time.
 
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#68
Intelligence is not to be underrated for a qb or a lb. This may be a general on the field. He is a good get.
 
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sjt18 said:
Yep. The Big 10 isn't as slow as you think. They aren't as fast as the SEC but you are overplaying that perception.



Auburn with SEC speed was taken to OT by lowly NW. Not only is NW a Big 10 school... they're almost like the Vandy of the Big 10. Their academic standards are higher than Stanford and ND IIRC.

PSU was "fast enough" to beat LSU and hold their O to 243 yards. I think the only SEC team that held them to less was UF.

tOSU was fast enough to beat an Oregon team built on speed.

Iowa beat GT... a team with SEC like speed.

What UT needs to get back to the top is defenders who get where they need to be when they need to be there and then make plays. If they get there just because they're fast, fine. If they get there because they're smart and can read plays quickly, fine. But if speed were the final factor, we could just have them line up before the game and award the trophy to the team with the lowest avg 40 time.
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Auburn's DC is Ted Roof. Enough said. Everyone was putting up 20+ on them.

GT got behind and we all know what happens when you're behind and run the triple option.

The LSU game was played on a soggy field; hence, the speed advantage was negated.

OSU...when was the last time they beat an SEC team again...I'll wait.

I'm not implying speed is the only or most important factor attributed to a team or person's success; however, if you think we're going to beat Florida or Alabama just by being lied up right and wanting to win that's a little far fetched.

Hard work beats talent when talent DOESN'T work.
 
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per VQ----
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John Propst of "Hoover Alabama" (3 star) LB..to sign with Tennessee this week end. Per source that spoke with father tonight. He is currently comitted to W.V but has TN offer... If visit goes well..

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Does he really have an offer from UT? Neither Rivals nor Scout even lists Tennessee on his page.

It seems like either Propst or Crump is a back-up plan in case Ralph Williams goes away.
 
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Tha Don said:
Auburn's DC is Ted Roof. Enough said. Everyone was putting up 20+ on them.

GT got behind and we all know what happens when you're behind and run the triple option.

The LSU game was played on a soggy field; hence, the speed advantage was negated.

OSU...when was the last time they beat an SEC team again...I'll wait.
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Rationalize away... and you're still wrong.

I'm not implying speed is the only or most important factor attributed to a team or person's success; however, if you think we're going to beat Florida or Alabama just by being lied up right and wanting to win that's a little far fetched.
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No. What I'm saying is a smart player will make reads and anticipate plays so that he gets there faster even though he runs a 4.65 rather than a 4.5. Based on your argument, Big 10 teams shouldn't even stay on the field with SEC teams... and they do.

Hard work beats talent when talent DOESN'T work.
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Talent includes what's between a guy's ears as well as what's below them. I don't know this kid from Adam's housecat and book smarts aren't always an indicator of football smarts. OTOH, he was successful against "athletes" in Alabama. On paper at least he has enough athleticism. If he doesn't, he'll either dedicate himself into bulking up to be a DT/OL or he'll help raise the team GPA.
 
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sjt18 said:
FWIW, WVU emphasizes speed on D about as much as anyone in CFB.
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You present some valid points. All I'm saying is I've seen this kid play on numerous times and he doesn't have one skill that is above average.

FWIW, his old coach and defensive coordinator at Hoover ,Jeremy Pruitt, is now the LB coach at Alabama and he didn't think enough to even recruit the guy.

As always GBO.
 
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Tha Don said:
You present some valid points. All I'm saying is I've seen this kid play on numerous times and he doesn't have one skill that is above average.

FWIW, his old coach and defensive coordinator at Hoover ,Jeremy Pruitt, is now the LB coach at Alabama and he didn't think enough to even recruit the guy.

As always GBO.
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Sal Sunseri is Alabama's LB coach.
 
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